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Re: Baiting.....
[Re: Jsmak]
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02/11/16 07:23 AM
02/11/16 07:23 AM
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mrfuzz
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Baiting will only be legal if you are a master.... just what I've heard.
my 2nd amendment guarantees your 1st amendment!
cixelsyd ton m'i tub (but i'm not dyslexic)
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Re: Baiting.....
[Re: Jsmak]
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02/11/16 07:28 AM
02/11/16 07:28 AM
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Last edited by BamaGuitarDude; 02/11/16 07:30 AM.
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Re: Baiting.....
[Re: Jsmak]
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02/11/16 07:52 AM
02/11/16 07:52 AM
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earspltnloudnbmr
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I hate to tell you this but your friend is either misinformed or FOS.
It still must be voted on by the full senate and house. Its possible that it could be on the floor for debate next week. No one knows if it will pass or not. It has not passed the previous 4 times it has been brought up so I am not sure why anyone would think this is a done deal this time. I would say it has a 50/50 chance at best.
�We abuse land because we see it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.�
― Aldo Leopold
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Re: Baiting.....
[Re: burbank]
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02/11/16 08:18 AM
02/11/16 08:18 AM
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Alabama
Jsmak
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Unless he DNCR makes it legal.....
Do they have that authority? He is with DCNR.
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Re: Baiting.....
[Re: Jsmak]
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02/11/16 09:08 AM
02/11/16 09:08 AM
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MarksOutdoors
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It will happen, just like the lottery. Just not so sure it will happen this coming season. Legislation usually takes a couple of years before it takes full effect.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
-G. K. Chesterton
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Re: Baiting.....
[Re: Jsmak]
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02/11/16 09:17 AM
02/11/16 09:17 AM
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earspltnloudnbmr
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If it gets voted down, there is nothing the DCNR can do. An administrative rule can not change or override the existing state law that prohibits hunting over bait. The DCNR can only define what constitutes baiting, IE less than 100 yards and in direct line of sight of the hunter.
Therefor no one from the DCNR can say for sure whether baiting will be legal next year because in order for that to happen it will have to pass the house and senate. Jsmak is either twisting someones words around or he is just making schit up.
�We abuse land because we see it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.�
― Aldo Leopold
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Re: Baiting.....
[Re: Jsmak]
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02/11/16 10:55 AM
02/11/16 10:55 AM
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earspltnloudnbmr
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The DCNR was not trying to define what baiting is rather they were trying to help landowners and land managers who are on a year-round supplemental-feeding program feel comfortable about hunting their land and it help enforcement officers feel more comfortable about determining what is supplemental feeding and what is baiting. The intent of the DCNR was not to circumvent the existing state law but rather define at what point you cross the line from legally providing deer with supplemental feed to illegal harvesting deer with the aid of bait.
�We abuse land because we see it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.�
― Aldo Leopold
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Re: Baiting.....
[Re: earspltnloudnbmr]
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02/11/16 11:44 AM
02/11/16 11:44 AM
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If it gets voted down, there is nothing the DCNR can do. An administrative rule can not change or override the existing state law that prohibits hunting over bait. The DCNR can only define what constitutes baiting, IE less than 100 yards and in direct line of sight of the hunter.
Therefor no one from the DCNR can say for sure whether baiting will be legal next year because in order for that to happen it will have to pass the house and senate. Jsmak is either twisting someones words around or he is just making schit up. Calm down hero, I'm just telling you what I was told by someone with the DCNR that should know. I also said I was skeptical in case you missed that.
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Re: Baiting.....
[Re: Jsmak]
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02/11/16 12:49 PM
02/11/16 12:49 PM
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earspltnloudnbmr
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I just pointed out that the DCNR has no control whether or not that bill passes. No one with the DCNR has any way of knowing with any certainty that the bill will be signed into law. Therefor no one with the DCNR would have told you that baiting will be 100% legal next year.
�We abuse land because we see it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.�
― Aldo Leopold
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Re: Baiting.....
[Re: Jsmak]
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02/11/16 01:06 PM
02/11/16 01:06 PM
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BhamFred
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DCNR can just pass a regulation making corn legal to hunt over......
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Baiting.....
[Re: Jsmak]
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02/11/16 01:09 PM
02/11/16 01:09 PM
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earspltnloudnbmr
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No they cant. They can not pass anything that overrides state law.
�We abuse land because we see it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.�
― Aldo Leopold
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Re: Baiting.....
[Re: earspltnloudnbmr]
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02/11/16 01:53 PM
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No they cant. They can not pass anything that overrides state law. I would trust what Troy says. He only worked for the dept for decades. It's not passing anything. It's clarifying and direction on enforcement. Think executive orders.....
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