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food plot=baiting #1644960
02/08/16 06:10 PM
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Don't know why ya'll are getting bent out of shape about this baiting thing. Not a dang bit of difference in sitting on a food plot vs hunting over bait. It's the same dang thing. It's something man made to attract deer.....


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Re: food plot=baiting [Re: Beadlescomb] #1644962
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Re: food plot=baiting [Re: Beadlescomb] #1644988
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Here we go time to break out the pop corn

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Re: food plot=baiting [Re: mauvilla] #1644989
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popcorn popcorn popcorn


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Re: food plot=baiting [Re: Beadlescomb] #1645006
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if it used just to kill deer then there aint much difference .

when it come to what's best for the herd then theres a good bit of difference .

Re: food plot=baiting [Re: MS_Hunter] #1645007
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No popcorn needed. I can grow a field of corn and hunt it everyday of season leagaly. But if you put it out it is illegal. Come on. Either way it is put there with intent. And if it isn't there will be a harvest and most likely a depredation permit if deer aren't desired there.


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Re: food plot=baiting [Re: Beadlescomb] #1645028
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"Don't know why ya'll are getting bent out of shape about this baiting thing. Not a dang bit of difference in sitting on a food plot vs hunting over bait. It's the same dang thing. It's something man made to attract deer....."

Same rationale can be used for shooting a deer over a corn pile and shooting one over a corn pile using a spotlight. It's the same dang thing. It's something man made to kill deer.

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Re: food plot=baiting [Re: Beadlescomb] #1645035
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LOL BEAD you are right in some cases, but not all. I Plant to make deer healthy, not kill plots. SO Whats your reasoning for planting summer plots ? The does on my lease went from an average of 90 lbs to 140 lbs. Corn does not put weight on a deer, its candy.


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Re: food plot=baiting [Re: Beadlescomb] #1645040
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Originally Posted By: Beadlescomb
Don't know why ya'll are getting bent out of shape about this baiting thing. Not a dang bit of difference in sitting on a food plot vs hunting over bait. It's the same dang thing. It's something man made to attract deer.....


To me there IS a difference b/t planting and baiting.

You can't move a rye field but you can move a corn pile once you shoot deer out of a field and they get wary of the general area. With baiting you have a mobile food source, unlike a planted field.


To me it's more of a fair chase type thing.


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Re: food plot=baiting [Re: Beadlescomb] #1645053
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As long as it's legal I don't care either way I'm just stating a fact. You say you can move a field but I've never seen anyone just have one field on a tract of land unless it was a small area


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Re: food plot=baiting [Re: perchjerker] #1645054
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Originally Posted By: perchjerker
LOL BEAD you are right in some cases, but not all. I Plant to make deer healthy, not kill plots. SO Whats your reasoning for planting summer plots ? The does on my lease went from an average of 90 lbs to 140 lbs. Corn does not put weight on a deer, its candy.


Nothing wrong with that either


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Re: food plot=baiting [Re: Beadlescomb] #1645110
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The thing is you can carry a bucket of corn to the edge of some privet that you think a buck is bedding in, it's mobile. It's diffrent IMO . A field is an open space .. You can place corn in cover.

Re: food plot=baiting [Re: Beadlescomb] #1645127
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You fellas will perform some incredible semantic gymnastics to argue about this, but Beadlescomb is 101% correct. It is FOOD and ATTRACTANT, period, this literally CANNOT be argued. Listening to y'all try to make a difference between a food plot and a pipe feeder is like watching you play Twister....seriously, you're really stretching. Nothing could be any less relevant than this goofball argument that food plots are "healthy" and corn is "candy". What in the heck does that have to do with the intent of the baiting rule????? NOTHING!! "Corn" ain't the only thing we're talking about here...put protein pellets in your feeder if that helps ease your mind. Or how about this: Put your corn pile in the center of your Tecomate field! thumbup


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Re: food plot=baiting [Re: Beadlescomb] #1645138
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Some of the very ones that are against legal baiting will use sex scent lures, calls, rattling, plots, sit in a tree 30' up, high powered rifles and scopes that shoot well over 100 yards, etc. Hell folks, it is a practice that is used in a number of states without any verified real problems. In Texas and Florida with a number of other states it is legal and there is not any mention of diseases in those states. Put a $50 permit sticker with a fee to the state on the feeder, one per 40 acres or so, and mind your own business.

Re: food plot=baiting [Re: Beadlescomb] #1645190
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Baiting is legal in NC on private land. From what I can tell, it doesn't hurt a whole lot. The deer will visit the sites but like a good plot, it doesn't take long before they wise up to the pressure. Most big deer aren't killed over corn piles and I've managed to see and kill public land deer coming from private land that has feeders. On that public land you'll have deer come slipping by at first light when the private land guys come rolling in on their four wheelers, driving right up to a shooting house, and watching a pile of corn. Deer aren't dumb, and corn won't make them stupid. A corn feeder won't "take" the deer from your land if you have decent cover and don't pressure it to death.

Re: food plot=baiting [Re: ikillbux] #1645208
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I agree with you on this one. If it isn't an attractant...why have a shooting house in them?

It is designed to lure them in...PERIOD.


Originally Posted By: ikillbux
You fellas will perform some incredible semantic gymnastics to argue about this, but Beadlescomb is 101% correct. It is FOOD and ATTRACTANT, period, this literally CANNOT be argued. Listening to y'all try to make a difference between a food plot and a pipe feeder is like watching you play Twister....seriously, you're really stretching. Nothing could be any less relevant than this goofball argument that food plots are "healthy" and corn is "candy". What in the heck does that have to do with the intent of the baiting rule????? NOTHING!! "Corn" ain't the only thing we're talking about here...put protein pellets in your feeder if that helps ease your mind. Or how about this: Put your corn pile in the center of your Tecomate field! thumbup

Re: food plot=baiting [Re: Beadlescomb] #1645210
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Funny thing is too, I'm not arguing "for" baiting because I do it, or want to do it. I don't even have anywhere I could do it, I hunt a dang military base for Pete's sake! I just get fluffed up somethin' fierce when I hear these goofy justifications against "bait" as it relates to food plots. Alabama's gymnastics team ain't as good as some of those reasons. I love the hyper-righteousness and sportsmanship that some people try to portray....sheesh.


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Re: food plot=baiting [Re: ikillbux] #1645225
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Originally Posted By: ikillbux
Funny thing is too, I'm not arguing "for" baiting because I do it, or want to do it. I don't even have anywhere I could do it, I hunt a dang military base for Pete's sake! I just get fluffed up somethin' fierce when I hear these goofy justifications against "bait" as it relates to food plots. Alabama's gymnastics team ain't as good as some of those reasons. I love the hyper-righteousness and sportsmanship that some people try to portray....sheesh.


Dangit man you got men distracted when you said gymnastics. I started thinking about the Alabama Womens Gymnastics team a couple of years ago. What was the subject?

Re: food plot=baiting [Re: outdoors1] #1645253
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Re: food plot=baiting [Re: Beadlescomb] #1645312
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You can follow this line of reasoning as far as you like. I fertilize honeysuckle which is non-native and hunt it. Also used to fertilize certain white oaks. What about cutting lanes in thick areas to establish a travel corridor? All the same as a kill plot because they are only utilized to harvest deer. There are 2 differences between all of these and a corn pile. #1 and most important, baiting is not legal. #2 all these "improvements" are still there after Feb 1st.

If it becomes legal then I may use it. The deer certainly eat it in February. Right now I choose not to and really don't want to hunt around those that do. Hard to avoid corn piles when you don't know where they are. Judging by stand placement, the best place to hunt is always near the landline. grin

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