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Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: GomerPyle] #1644393
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What's even more strange is that we accept the fact that the state licenses a freedom.


"The misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing... compared to the misery of not being exploited at all."

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Originally Posted By: William
What's even more strange is that we accept the fact that the state licenses a freedom.
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Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: mrfuzz] #1644436
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Originally Posted By: mrfuzz
Every two years you have to get a DOT physical at about $95. Then, every fourth year you have the DOT physical($95),


Say that again......... ??


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Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: William] #1644437
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Originally Posted By: William
What's even more strange is that we accept the fact that the state licenses a freedom.


The freedom to drive a boat? Surely you are joking.

Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: GomerPyle] #1644444
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When I was in high school we took the Vessel license test as part of drivers ed. Every single person in my graduating class had a vessel license and I don't remember any of us having to pay a dime for it.


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Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: 3toe] #1644455
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Does everyone have to have a vessel license in Al? Or is it a age thing? Do I have to have one if i come and fish in Al?



You do if you are going to operate a motorized boat.


No, you don't. Visitors, I believe, are exempt.


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Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: William] #1644459
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Originally Posted By: William
What's even more strange is that we accept the fact that the state licenses a freedom.


Huh?


Originally Posted by Patricia Heaton
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Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: GomerPyle] #1644465
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Here's one for you to think about. I have a 100 Ton Masters License from the USCG, but it wasn't satisfactory for the Alabama vessel permit when all of that first came out. I believe it has since been changed and a proof of a captains license at the DMV is enough and they'll add the "V" to your drivers license instead of having to do the test. That test they give folks at the DMV was kind of entertaining to me when I had to take it.

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Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Originally Posted By: mrfuzz
Every two years you have to get a DOT physical at about $95. Then, every fourth year you have the DOT physical($95),


Say that again......... ??


the DOT medical card is only good for two years, and my CDL expires every four years. So, on the fourth year(CDL renewal year) you have the expense of the license renewal, the written exam, the background check, and the added cost of renewing your medical card all at once.


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Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: doekiller] #1644561
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Nope. We've managed to let the state turn driving a boat or a car into a privilege that is a licensed, taxable event. I can kind of see the argument for a drivers license since the state is providing the roads, but the state doesn't provide the water. If anything, Alabama Power or the Corp of Engs should issue boater licenses.


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Revenue source to help with Marine Police.

Same thing with states issuing a hunting license and then making you buy a permit to use a gun, and a permit to use a bow, and one for a crossbow and one for a muzzleloader. You want to hunt all four? Buy a license and four weapon/season permits.

Same thing. Revenue source.


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Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: GomerPyle] #1644567
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boating is not a freedom or a right.

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So, I have to get a state issued permit (tax) to operate a boat, but I don't have to get one to operate a canoe? Is canoeing a right, but boating a privilege?

I have to show a state issued ID to vote in Alabama. I'm pretty sure voting is a right.


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Originally Posted By: Clem

Revenue source to help with Marine Police.

Same thing with states issuing a hunting license and then making you buy a permit to use a gun, and a permit to use a bow, and one for a crossbow and one for a muzzleloader. You want to hunt all four? Buy a license and four weapon/season permits.

Same thing. Revenue source.


No such thing anymore. Got stopped by a state trooper boat last year and said the marine police were a thing of the past


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You and your boys got a permit Mr. Washington?


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Got yer liscense on ya Jesus?


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Originally Posted By: William
So, I have to get a state issued permit (tax) to operate a boat, but I don't have to get one to operate a canoe? Is canoeing a right, but boating a privilege?

I have to show a state issued ID to vote in Alabama. I'm pretty sure voting is a right.


You don't have a right to operate a boat.

The license was instituted to help regulate BUI.

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Only motorized boats require a reg and license. You, Jesus and anyone else can still paddle a boat and exercise your "Rights" without a license.


Originally Posted by Patricia Heaton
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Originally Posted By: doekiller
Originally Posted By: William
So, I have to get a state issued permit (tax) to operate a boat, but I don't have to get one to operate a canoe? Is canoeing a right, but boating a privilege?

I have to show a state issued ID to vote in Alabama. I'm pretty sure voting is a right.


You don't have a right to operate a boat.

The license was instituted to help regulate BUI.


Sorry, I can't agree. The license was instituted to generate revenue. If it was needed to regulate anything.........why wouldn't other states that have an exponential more amount of boaters do the same. Florida has more boaters than any state and they don't require one las I heard.

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Only motorized boats require a reg and license. You, Jesus and anyone else can still paddle a boat and exercise your "Rights" without a license.


I can and do.........bet your ass on that.

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