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Vessel/Driver License racket #1644143
02/08/16 08:57 AM
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So I finally got my boaters license, since I'm trying to buy a boat. Been meaning to get it anyway.

Was under the impression the online class was required. So I took and passed the online class - $30

Come to find out later I could have taken the test at the State Trooper's office and it would've only been $5, according to the lady trooper. Oh well, that's on me I guess - should've called and got clarification.

Well I get to the State Trooper office to have the "V" added to my license. - $36 for the "duplicate" fee....

so now we're at $76 just to get a boater license.

HERE'S THE KICKER...

my license was scheduled to expire in May. AFTER I'd paid the $36 fee, the state trooper lady "reminded" me that they can only renew them 60 days in advance, so mine is STILL going to expire in May, at which point I'll have to pay ANOTHER $36 to renew it.

I calmly and rationally explained how that was absolute BullShucks, and that it would've been really damn nice to have known that 10 minutes earlier. The state gives you a 30 day grace period to drive a newly purchased boat without a license. So even if I bought one later this month, I could have waited to get my Vessel license until I was within that 60 day window and save one of the $36 fees...


It's a wonder I made it out of there without being in handcuffs.


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1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: GomerPyle] #1644149
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With a boat, the $36 license fee is going to be the least of your worries.

Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: GomerPyle] #1644150
02/08/16 09:04 AM
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this is more of a principle thing...


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2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: BirminghamBuck] #1644155
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Originally Posted By: BirminghamBuck
With a boat, the $36 license fee is going to be the least of your worries.


Bring On Another Thousand

Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: GomerPyle] #1644159
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Boat- a hole in the water, surrounded by wood into which one pours money. But I love them. I'm thirty, the longest I've been without one since I was 12 was about 2 months.

Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: GomerPyle] #1644163
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You didn't have to have it added to your license right now you could have waited and just kept the certificate.


One day the right woman will come along and the next thing you know you'll be wearing her underwear!
Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: GomerPyle] #1644164
02/08/16 09:13 AM
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Hmmm you are mad at them because you didn't think all this out. All righty then!


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Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: MANGLER] #1644165
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Originally Posted By: MANGLER
You didn't have to have it added to your license right now you could have waited and just kept the certificate.


I specifically asked the people at the license office and was told that the certificate, alone, is NOT a boaters license and that I'd have to get a boaters license to legally operate a boat in AL.

For what it's worth, I'm not irritated over the part about adding the V classification to my license...

I'm irritated that they charged me a $36 "duplication fee", and only AFTER they charged me that, did they bother to say "oh by the way, you'll have to pay this again in 3 months because you're not inside the 60 day window."

Last edited by GomerPyle; 02/08/16 09:37 AM.

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1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: GomerPyle] #1644206
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I did the same thing--I was about 4 weeks early for the '60 days before expiring' policy. after waiting in line all morning to have the "Vessel" endorsement added to my license, they could've said $200 and I would've paid it, just so I NEVER had to enter that regional DMV office again. I can now have my license renewed locally as long as they're not adding an endorsement.

Screwy, I know, and it took me all morning (about 3 hours) of waiting to have the endorsement added. If I had it to do over again, I'd just carry a laminated boating certificate in a boat. The regional DMV offices prove how inefficient the government can be.

Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: cullbuck] #1644219
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Originally Posted By: cullbuck
If I had it to do over again, I'd just carry a laminated boating certificate in a boat.


That's exactly what a buddy of mine does.


One day the right woman will come along and the next thing you know you'll be wearing her underwear!
Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: MANGLER] #1644223
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Originally Posted By: MANGLER
Originally Posted By: cullbuck
If I had it to do over again, I'd just carry a laminated boating certificate in a boat.


That's exactly what a buddy of mine does.


Like I said, I was specifically told by the DPS office that doesn't count as a boater license and you would be ticketed for operating without a license. Now, they may have been ignorant of the law or just flat-out lying, but they said that does not count for an operators license.

Either way, it's done now and I'm legal.


There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:

1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: GomerPyle] #1644239
02/08/16 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By: GomerPyle
So I finally got my boaters license, since I'm trying to buy a boat. Been meaning to get it anyway.

Was under the impression the online class was required. So I took and passed the online class - $30

Come to find out later I could have taken the test at the State Trooper's office and it would've only been $5, according to the lady trooper. Oh well, that's on me I guess - should've called and got clarification.

Well I get to the State Trooper office to have the "V" added to my license. - $36 for the "duplicate" fee....

so now we're at $76 just to get a boater license.


I'd be angry at my 2nd grade math teacher, too. slap


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Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: hunterbuck] #1644248
02/08/16 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: hunterbuck
Originally Posted By: GomerPyle
So I finally got my boaters license, since I'm trying to buy a boat. Been meaning to get it anyway.

Was under the impression the online class was required. So I took and passed the online class - $30

Come to find out later I could have taken the test at the State Trooper's office and it would've only been $5, according to the lady trooper. Oh well, that's on me I guess - should've called and got clarification.

Well I get to the State Trooper office to have the "V" added to my license. - $36 for the "duplicate" fee....

so now we're at $76 just to get a boater license.


I'd be angry at my 2nd grade math teacher, too. slap


Well crap....good catch.


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1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: GomerPyle] #1644281
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You should try class A CDL with HAZMAT on for size.
Every two years you have to get a DOT physical at about $95. Then, every fourth year you have the DOT physical($95), have a Homeland Security background check ($80) then if that weren't bad enough, you have to pass the written HAZMAT exam ($35) then pay for the license renewal ($65.00)
That's $275.00 every four years!


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Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: GomerPyle] #1644336
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Does everyone have to have a vessel license in Al? Or is it a age thing? Do I have to have one if i come and fish in Al?

Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: GomerPyle] #1644340
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Yes, everyone has to have a license. You have to take the states written examination UNLESS you were 40 years old on April 28, 1994 or have passed a Coast Guard Auxiliary, US Power Squadron, or Alabama Boating Basics Safety Course.

Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: born2fizh] #1644342
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Originally Posted By: born2fizh
Does everyone have to have a vessel license in Al? Or is it a age thing? Do I have to have one if i come and fish in Al?



You do if you are going to operate a motorized boat.

Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: GomerPyle] #1644347
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It's all a damn racket..


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Everyone. All of them...

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Re: Vessel/Driver License racket [Re: GomerPyle] #1644380
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Originally Posted By: GomerPyle
Originally Posted By: MANGLER
Originally Posted By: cullbuck
If I had it to do over again, I'd just carry a laminated boating certificate in a boat.


That's exactly what a buddy of mine does.


Like I said, I was specifically told by the DPS office that doesn't count as a boater license and you would be ticketed for operating without a license. Now, they may have been ignorant of the law or just flat-out lying, but they said that does not count for an operators license.

Either way, it's done now and I'm legal.


It isn't legal. You have to have the licence because you have to have a licence number so that you can be tracked if you are stopped just like a DL. They will ticket you for no license. Also, if you get a BUI, they have to have the license number to put on the ticket.

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Non-residents 12 years old and older, may operate on Alabama waters up to 45 days per calendar year without having to obtain a vessel operator's license.  If operating a vessel for more than 45 days per calendar year, the non-resident must get an Alabama Non-Resident Vessel Operator's License. Non-residents who have obtained a vessel certification or license from their home state, may use that in lieu of the Alabama Non-Resident Vessel Operator's License.

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