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The old days.
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02/08/16 07:09 AM
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Looks like the 2015-2016 deer season will be the last of its kind. Right wrong or indifferent, it looks like baiting will be part of Alabama’s deer seasons from now on. Hope you all had a good season and will remember the “Way it used to be”.
I went to college in TX back in the late 80's and that is how almost everyone out there hunts. Big guns, long shots, feeders with corrals around them to keep the hogs and livestock out. All were the norm then and I guess will become the norm here.
The "Hunting Club" rules will change a lot as well. Corn, no corn, my stand, public stand, who fills the feeders, who buys the corn, do we still plant or just bait..... All items to work out in the baiting age.
At least the argument over it will cease. Once it passes, it will be here. We will all have to live with it one way or another. I have no doubt I will hunt over corn as well. I already do A LOT for pigs.
Just a few things I thought about yesterday sitting on my stand and watching my deer season fade away.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: The old days.
[Re: ElkHunter]
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02/08/16 07:21 AM
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I don't make enough money to buy corn, roasted beans, bran or whatever. Will just keep hunting on my property how we hunt now.
But yes, things are about to change forever and won't be the same. For those "progressives" wanting baiting and special this or special that kind of changes, just remember that you reap what you sow.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 07:29 AM
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I'm loving hunting in TN more and more by the minute.
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 07:33 AM
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I am not sure how I feel about baiting for deer I might do it if i have a young kid that has never killed one but I don't think I would let him know the field was baited, Now baiting for hogs heck let it fly and kill them all, the green fields at the club looked like a D-9 had been riding around on them!!
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 07:33 AM
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Baiting will be approved there before long, IDOT. It's only a matter of time, just like in Mississippi. TWRA's commissioners are moneyed politico appointees just like in other states.
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 07:44 AM
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I would like to see some data on baiting before legalization/after legalization. Has anyone seen data from other states?
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 08:02 AM
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The difference in baiting in Texas and Alabama is the the habitat. With Alabama pine plantations, most caloric needs met by supplemental (baiting) feeding and the enormous pressure, deer will become more nocturnal than they already are. There isn't a lot of calories in natural browse so deer must feed several times a day. If they can head to a feeder at night, get most of their caloric needs met , then they can lay up in thick pines all day and never be seen. I wish they'd ban it all.
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 08:06 AM
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The difference in baiting in Texas and Alabama is the the habitat. With Alabama pine plantations, most caloric needs met by supplemental (baiting) feeding and the enormous pressure, deer will become more nocturnal than they already are. There isn't a lot of calories in natural browse so deer must feed several times a day. If they can head to a feeder at night, get most of their caloric needs met , then they can lay up in thick pines all day and never be seen. I wish they'd ban it all. I completely agree.
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02/08/16 08:15 AM
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Since baiting has been legalized in GA, we see far more deer on our little property today than when it was illegal to bait. That is my personal experience.
I would like to see a well documented study.
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 08:16 AM
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I don't like it. I know from being in the "professional" animal raising business for most of my life that any time you congregate animals you increase the disease risk and spread of diseases. I'm sure I will start feeding once it's legal to hunt over. I don't have any studies to back this up but I feel it will be better for the deer herd to keep the feed off the ground. Gravity feeders would be much more sanitary than broadcast feeders or feeding off the ground.
Guess I need to get started designing a gravity feeder to manufacture
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02/08/16 08:33 AM
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Unless you're the only one corning, I don't see that it would hold deer ONLY on your property. As I stated the other day, I killed a buck a month ago that had whole kernel inside his esophagus and I had stopped filling my legal feeder over a month prior. Of course, this is not empirical data, just my experience with this one deer.
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Re: The old days.
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I really don't care either way. To bait or not to bait. I just wish they would make up their minds what's legal and what's not. I primarily hunt public land and don't see where this will change how or where I hunt. I know some that will spend hundreds just to sit and look at fat crow's. They have always put out corn and don't have any better luck than I do without it. To each his own.
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 10:37 AM
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Florida has allowed baiting for well over 25 years. I would think that if moldy corn killed turkeys and deer, we would not have any left to hunt by this time.I also think that a game warden's time would better spent arresting night hunters and poachers.
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 10:51 AM
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Don't matter to me..I wasn't born yet, but I remember hearing stories about folks, thinking the world was gonna end because the use of food plots was allowed..
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
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Re: The old days.
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Since baiting has been legalized in GA, we see far more deer on our little property today than when it was illegal to bait. That is my personal experience.
I would like to see a well documented study.
A good friend of mine is from Georgia and he told me this past weekend they see way more deer in Georgia than he has ever seen in Alabama. Doesn't really make a difference to me as I probably won't hunt over corn but it will be nice to not have to worry about making sure it's all gone 10 days prior to season or whether or not the neighbor has a feeder I didn't know about. I believe a GW's time could be better spent chasing night hunters tresspassors, etc...
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Re: The old days.
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02/08/16 11:03 AM
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Y'all notice it hasn't said anything about turkeys? Unless I missed it, just deer and hogs.
Turkey hunters could find themselves in a jam if it's approved, no?
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Re: The old days.
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shucks folks adapt and move on. Things will be just fine whatever happens. I can't believe some of the petty worries some folks have these days.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: The old days.
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Acid rain is going to destroy the planet....Y2K is going to bring about a technology apocalypse....the Polar bears will be green and dead by the year 2010.....a giant meteorite is supposed to collide with the planet in 2013.
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Re: The old days.
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And hoverboards and floating cars too by 2015. I think all will be just fine here.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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I'm against feeding/baiting during the season. Just my opinion, just what I like, no studies, etc saying its better or worse. I just get more enjoyment out of hunting a deer in as natural environment as possible with no alterations by man. It wouldn't bother me if food plots were not allowed either. Again nothing more than its what I like. So do u plant food plots? Just because it's legal doesn't mean you have to
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shucks folks adapt and move on. Things will be just fine whatever happens. I can't believe some sof the petty worries some folks have these days. "I can't believe some of the petty worries some folks have these days." Agree, we shouldn't be worrying ourselves with changing a law!! We should just repeal the damned "supplemental feeding" and be done with it! Simple....
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I'm against feeding/baiting during the season. Just my opinion, just what I like, no studies, etc saying its better or worse. I just get more enjoyment out of hunting a deer in as natural environment as possible with no alterations by man. It wouldn't bother me if food plots were not allowed either. Again nothing more than its what I like.
So do u plant food plots? Just because it's legal doesn't mean you have to So let's legalize spotlighting too! But, if you don't agree with that, it don't mean that YOU would have to do it... HAHA, LMAO
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Now if they would legalize marijuana I could get stoned over my corn pile.
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I'm against feeding/baiting during the season. Just my opinion, just what I like, no studies, etc saying its better or worse. I just get more enjoyment out of hunting a deer in as natural environment as possible with no alterations by man. It wouldn't bother me if food plots were not allowed either. Again nothing more than its what I like. So do u plant food plots? Just because it's legal doesn't mean you have to We do plant food plots because our club wants to and I do sit over them occasionally. You are reading to much into this, its just what I like/dislike hunting wise. Nothing more, nothing less. But it will be hard to have a club that will not feed/bait if its legal and small landowners will have to bait to keep deer on their property. Which in both cases will make it harder to hunt like I enjoy it. It really may boil down to that if baiting is legalized that I will give up deer hunting and just hunt feathers. I'm just not a harvester, I enjoy the hunt more than the kill and shooting one over a bait pile or foodplot isn't as much fun as figuring one out in the woods to me. A buddy of mine killed a nice old buck down in a bottom the other morning, nice but certainly not in the category of the biggest he's killed. As we were trying to get him out, we both noted how much more we enjoyed a kill like that than a bigger one out of a plot. It may be that I'm the minority and hey that's fine, if the majority would rather hunt over bait and its legalized, I will either adapt or like I said, quit.
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I'm against feeding/baiting during the season. Just my opinion, just what I like, no studies, etc saying its better or worse. I just get more enjoyment out of hunting a deer in as natural environment as possible with no alterations by man. It wouldn't bother me if food plots were not allowed either. Again nothing more than its what I like. So do u plant food plots? Just because it's legal doesn't mean you have to We do plant food plots because our club wants to and I do sit over them occasionally. You are reading to much into this, its just what I like/dislike hunting wise. Nothing more, nothing less. But it will be hard to have a club that will not feed/bait if its legal and small landowners will have to bait to keep deer on their property. Which in both cases will make it harder to hunt like I enjoy it. It really may boil down to that if baiting is legalized that I will give up deer hunting and just hunt feathers. I'm just not a harvester, I enjoy the hunt more than the kill and shooting one over a bait pile or foodplot isn't as much fun as figuring one out in the woods to me. A buddy of mine killed a nice old buck down in a bottom the other morning, nice but certainly not in the category of the biggest he's killed. As we were trying to get him out, we both noted how much more we enjoyed a kill like that than a bigger one out of a plot. It may be that I'm the minority and hey that's fine, if the majority would rather hunt over bait and its legalized, I will either adapt or like I said, quit. I'm not reading to much into it. I was just fudging with ya I'll agree though. Once they do legalize it, there ain't no way we'll be able to keep up with our neighbors!
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Let's open it up wide open!! Yes, you can smoke crack and spotlight a deer off of your corn pile and be able to do it year around. They just too many damn reugulations trying to tell ME how I can hunt!!! That's bullshitt!!!!
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We hunt over bait everytime we sit on a greenfield, greenfield is planes to draw deer and congrefate them. Baiting will not make deer less nocturnal but may make them more nocturnal due to increase human presence around a feeding area. I will keep on supplemental feeding near food sources in troughs, not on greenfields and not just corn but pellets as well. You kidding right about the part baiting makes them nocturnal? If you talk to those out of state that allow feeding you will see more anytime of day. Sure makes for an easy tracking job if you shoot one during middle of day. With a clean non-obstructed shot better recovery rate too.
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Any real hunter knows the answer to this bs, think I will go hunting tomorrow , I mean "baiting tommorow"
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The difference in baiting in Texas and Alabama is the the habitat. With Alabama pine plantations, most caloric needs met by supplemental (baiting) feeding and the enormous pressure, deer will become more nocturnal than they already are. There isn't a lot of calories in natural browse so deer must feed several times a day. If they can head to a feeder at night, get most of their caloric needs met , then they can lay up in thick pines all day and never be seen. I wish they'd ban it all. Your right on the money Bill. It will make the deer even more nocturnal than the already are.
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but 95% of hunters I've known throughout my life have/do hunt over corn at some point. You must hang around a lot of outlaws for it to be 95 percent.
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One big difference between corn and food plots that I rarely if ever see mentioned is that food plots provide food for the deer even after the season goes out. Most people who feed put feed out during deer season and stop when it ends.
I didn't say all, I said most, so there's no need to tell me you do it differently....
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Re: The old days.
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Looks like the 2015-2016 deer season will be the last of its kind. Right wrong or indifferent, it looks like baiting will be part of Alabama’s deer seasons from now on. Hope you all had a good season and will remember the “Way it used to be”.
I went to college in TX back in the late 80's and that is how almost everyone out there hunts. Big guns, long shots, feeders with corrals around them to keep the hogs and livestock out. All were the norm then and I guess will become the norm here.
The "Hunting Club" rules will change a lot as well. Corn, no corn, my stand, public stand, who fills the feeders, who buys the corn, do we still plant or just bait..... All items to work out in the baiting age.
At least the argument over it will cease. Once it passes, it will be here. We will all have to live with it one way or another. I have no doubt I will hunt over corn as well. I already do A LOT for pigs.
Just a few things I thought about yesterday sitting on my stand and watching my deer season fade away. It will not change anything at my club.....We aren't going to do anything to attract more bears but I encourage my neighbors to put out all the corn they can afford
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Re: The old days.
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The difference in baiting in Texas and Alabama is the the habitat. With Alabama pine plantations, most caloric needs met by supplemental (baiting) feeding and the enormous pressure, deer will become more nocturnal than they already are. There isn't a lot of calories in natural browse so deer must feed several times a day. If they can head to a feeder at night, get most of their caloric needs met , then they can lay up in thick pines all day and never be seen. I wish they'd ban it all. Explain to me how that is different than a food plot? Do you have rules that keep the deer from feeding on your food plots at night? If so, how did you get them to agree? I want to know the secret.
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Re: The old days.
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The difference in baiting in Texas and Alabama is the the habitat. With Alabama pine plantations, most caloric needs met by supplemental (baiting) feeding and the enormous pressure, deer will become more nocturnal than they already are. There isn't a lot of calories in natural browse so deer must feed several times a day. If they can head to a feeder at night, get most of their caloric needs met , then they can lay up in thick pines all day and never be seen. I wish they'd ban it all. Explain to me how that is different than a food plot? Do you have rules that keep the deer from feeding on your food plots at night? If so, how did you get them to agree? I want to know the secret. I was thinking the same thing. Deer feed in plots mostly at night.
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food plots provide food for the deer even after the season goes out Some of them. A lot of plots are created specifically for hunting season and then let go, redone next season, and so forth. A true "food plot" that is a 3-season or year-round food source for wildlife is rare.
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Re: The old days.
[Re: ElkHunter]
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My thoughts, hmm. On the one hand people want to corral deer into one small area to make it easier to kill them. On the other hand too many does are being killed now. On the one hand, too many young less than MATURE old bucks are being killed. On the other hand corral the deer into a small spot to make killing them easier.
The really sad part if the baiters and want a be baiters would actually learn how to hunt instead of wanting to bait or sit and watch grass grow in a green field maybe just maybe they would actually kill deer!! But, of course that would mean getting the heck out of in front of the TV and stop watching with starry eyes all of the TV shows. I would be all for outlawing green fields to by the way. Kind of solves the issue of killing too many does and young bucks, but that's the easiest and best solution. But it doesn't stop the squeaky wheels that will never stop squeaking.
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I agree. We should outlaw rifles and compound bows. If we can't kill them with spears then we need to abolish deer season!!! My thoughts, hmm. On the one hand people want to corral deer into one small area to make it easier to kill them. On the other hand too many does are being killed now. On the one hand, too many young less than MATURE old bucks are being killed. On the other hand corral the deer into a small spot to make killing them easier.
The really sad part if the baiters and want a be baiters would actually learn how to hunt instead of wanting to bait or sit and watch grass grow in a green field maybe just maybe they would actually kill deer!! But, of course that would mean getting the heck out of in front of the TV and stop watching with starry eyes all of the TV shows. I would be all for outlawing green fields to by the way. Kind of solves the issue of killing too many does and young bucks, but that's the easiest and best solution. But it doesn't stop the squeaky wheels that will never stop squeaking.
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Re: The old days.
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And dogs will run all the deer out of the county and away from your corn piles if they step foot on your property ... unless it is a tracking dog, that runs/trails, bays and catches deer on your property.
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Re: The old days.
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food plots provide food for the deer even after the season goes out Some of them. A lot of plots are created specifically for hunting season and then let go, redone next season, and so forth. A true "food plot" that is a 3-season or year-round food source for wildlife is rare. My point was that even a fall planted, winter "killing" plot provides food until spring green up. Even the most pitiful excuse for a green field will provide some food. An empty feeder provides none.
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The difference in baiting in Texas and Alabama is the the habitat. With Alabama pine plantations, most caloric needs met by supplemental (baiting) feeding and the enormous pressure, deer will become more nocturnal than they already are. There isn't a lot of calories in natural browse so deer must feed several times a day. If they can head to a feeder at night, get most of their caloric needs met , then they can lay up in thick pines all day and never be seen. I wish they'd ban it all. Explain to me how that is different than a food plot? Do you have rules that keep the deer from feeding on your food plots at night? If so, how did you get them to agree? I want to know the secret. How much time does a deer have to spend eating grass to get the same calories they get out of a feed trough full of corn? My.opinion is based on studies I've read. There are several studies referenced in this article. http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/game-ch...ior-and-habitat
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Re: The old days.
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One big difference between corn and food plots that I rarely if ever see mentioned is that food plots provide food for the deer even after the season goes out. Most people who feed put feed out during deer season and stop when it ends.
I didn't say all, I said most, so there's no need to tell me you do it differently.... Your right Brad and I will always do green fields because of its valuable nutrition source for the deer. Plus I enjoy the farming part more than anything else about hunting season. I take pride in my fields and love seeing them get mowed down this time of year.
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Re: The old days.
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There is a big diffrence in your average food plot and your average corn feeder .
I can plant a plot in the fall and fertilize it and not return until December to hunt . If your are bating with corn you are constantly in and out refilling and deer learn that if they come at night they don't see you .. Not to mention that predators can key on the feeders , also its not Good incase of a disease outbreak . And not to mention it takes the sport out of hunting . I don't like hunting green fields all the time , I enjoy watching the deer in the fields and I like taking kids to sit on them i like providing the nutrition for the deer. But I enjoy hunting the most when I'm scouting liking for rubs and large tracks and trying to figure out where that buck beds . I have found myself using cameras less and less too, it takes the fun out of the hunt . Plus I found myself stinking up the woods just to check a camera .
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Re: The old days.
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The difference in baiting in Texas and Alabama is the the habitat. With Alabama pine plantations, most caloric needs met by supplemental (baiting) feeding and the enormous pressure, deer will become more nocturnal than they already are. There isn't a lot of calories in natural browse so deer must feed several times a day. If they can head to a feeder at night, get most of their caloric needs met , then they can lay up in thick pines all day and never be seen. I wish they'd ban it all. yep , some thing with a full belly don't have to travel much . easier and faster full belly will mean less movement ,,,,IMO a deer still has to get up and move some ever so often but they won't move much .
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Re: The old days.
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I agree. We should outlaw rifles and compound bows. If we can't kill them with spears then we need to abolish deer season!!! My thoughts, hmm. On the one hand people want to corral deer into one small area to make it easier to kill them. On the other hand too many does are being killed now. On the one hand, too many young less than MATURE old bucks are being killed. On the other hand corral the deer into a small spot to make killing them easier.
The really sad part if the baiters and want a be baiters would actually learn how to hunt instead of wanting to bait or sit and watch grass grow in a green field maybe just maybe they would actually kill deer!! But, of course that would mean getting the heck out of in front of the TV and stop watching with starry eyes all of the TV shows. I would be all for outlawing green fields to by the way. Kind of solves the issue of killing too many does and young bucks, but that's the easiest and best solution. But it doesn't stop the squeaky wheels that will never stop squeaking. Guess you missed the part about learning how to hunt? Hunting isn't a everybody gets a trophy for participating hobby, but there are a hell of a lot of people that believes it should be, sad. Instead of being resourceful and figuring out how to hunt, a lot want to run to momma government to make it better!
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Re: The old days.
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I don't know if it will change anything. Somebody will make a little more money in the long run. It will change things over time .. You will not notice a direct change next season . It will change the way young folks learn to hunt, and it will effect how deer feed during winter. I think it's BS and a dumb move .
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I don't know if it will change anything. Somebody will make a little more money in the long run. It will change things over time .. You will not notice a direct change next season . It will change the way young folks learn to hunt, and it will effect how deer feed during winter. I think it's BS and a dumb move . I agree Ron.
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Re: The old days.
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just wait till ever body with 5 ac puts up a feeder , then we gonna here a lot of pissing and moaning . be a lot of young bucks killed and the pissing and moaning will get louder .
i'm gonna LMAO
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Re: The old days.
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I've seen deer walk over a corn pile to get to a white oak tree. I've seen them totally ignore it in a food plot and eat the green. I've seen them eat corn. Corn isn't a magic bullet. It's just another food source. i got pictures of deer laying down in the corn eating it . lol
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Re: The old days.
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I've seen deer walk over a corn pile to get to a white oak tree. I've seen them totally ignore it in a food plot and eat the green. I've seen them eat corn. Corn isn't a magic bullet. It's just another food source. Where bham fred at we got an outlaw in here
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Re: The old days.
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The difference in baiting in Texas and Alabama is the the habitat. With Alabama pine plantations, most caloric needs met by supplemental (baiting) feeding and the enormous pressure, deer will become more nocturnal than they already are. There isn't a lot of calories in natural browse so deer must feed several times a day. If they can head to a feeder at night, get most of their caloric needs met , then they can lay up in thick pines all day and never be seen. I wish they'd ban it all. Your right on the money Bill. It will make the deer even more nocturnal than the already are. If they get anymore nocturnal than they are now they will have to legalize hunting at night. I just got finished looking through about 10,000 trail cam pictures that were in the last week and 95% of them were during hours of darkness.
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Re: The old days.
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Let the arms race begin. Ye who can afford the greatest number of feeders with the largest capacity shall have the does (and bucks). Ye who shall retain those does on thou property shall also have the bucks cometh rut. Thou poverty stricken neighbors who refuse to plow they income into corn shall cease to see deer come rut. And so sayeth the legislature.
Good bye traditional hunting
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Re: The old days.
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I don't think it's going to change much, it'll just let the folks that are hunting over corn now to be able to do it legally .
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Re: The old days.
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Johnny tell us the story how you killed that big buck.
Well to all my Aldeer buddies here is my story. Yesterday I slipped behind the camper on my corn pile and got in a shooting house at 4:30pm in my street clothes and had the heater going. I seen this deer with horns walking up and busted his azz. He fell right there. I went and got my clean truck and chunked that sucker in the back and headed to the processor. After dropping the big buck off I went by the car wash and sprayed the blood out the back. I can't stand a dirty truck and I'm not gutting a stinking deer. I sure hope y'all like my hunting story.
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Let the arms race begin. Ye who can afford the greatest number of feeders with the largest capacity shall have the does (and bucks). Ye who shall retain those does on thou property shall also have the bucks cometh rut. Thou poverty stricken neighbors who refuse to plow they income into corn shall cease to see deer come rut. And so sayeth the legislature.
Good bye traditional hunting hell you can pick up a 55ga drum of corn for less than 50 bucks . a 40ga feeder will run for two weeks . i'm fixing to set mine up this weekend to see what deer are left left
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The difference in baiting in Texas and Alabama is the the habitat. With Alabama pine plantations, most caloric needs met by supplemental (baiting) feeding and the enormous pressure, deer will become more nocturnal than they already are. There isn't a lot of calories in natural browse so deer must feed several times a day. If they can head to a feeder at night, get most of their caloric needs met , then they can lay up in thick pines all day and never be seen. I wish they'd ban it all. They are already nocturnal enough but I agree it will get worse
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I don't think it's going to change much, it'll just let the folks that are hunting over corn now to be able to do it legally . Don't think about next season think 20 seasons down the Road . Young folks will come up hunting feeders .. Look at the 5 stages of a Hunter . Sitting on a feeder is not hunting. IMO. Probably not going to effect deer movenent as much as it willl the sport of the hunt. Deer movenent patterns is localized based on pressure and is not going to effect everyone the same . Deer naturally will move dawn and dusk if there isn't pressure.
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I believe some of yall would still bitch and moan if you were guaranteed to see 25 deer a day with 5 of those scoring over 150" "s
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"The Future Of Killing"
Little Johnny ask big Johnny what's a rub daddy? What's a White Oak daddy? What's a scrape Daddy? What's a bedding area daddy? What does a deer eat besides this yellow gold daddy? How do you use a tree stand daddy? Why don't we have to play the wind daddy? What does a grunt sound like daddy? I guess I need to ask grandpa these questions since you don't know the answers?
It is hard to kill or catch anything sitting on the couch!
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"The Future Of Killing"
Little Johnny ask big Johnny what's a rub daddy? What's a White Oak daddy? What's a scrape Daddy? What's a bedding area daddy? What does a deer eat besides this yellow gold daddy? How do you use a tree stand daddy? Why don't we have to play the wind daddy? What does a grunt sound like daddy? I guess I need to ask grandpa these questions since you don't know the answers? No different than hunting a greenfield
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"The Future Of Killing"
Little Johnny ask big Johnny what's a rub daddy? What's a White Oak daddy? What's a scrape Daddy? What's a bedding area daddy? What does a deer eat besides this yellow gold daddy? How do you use a tree stand daddy? Why don't we have to play the wind daddy? What does a grunt sound like daddy? I guess I need to ask grandpa these questions since you don't know the answers? No different than hunting a greenfield well , it is a difference . little johnny would learn how to plant/grow some thing .
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I planted 10 acres of corn this year. It would have been 130 bushel per acre corn. So do the math. Between deer turkeys crows coons they are over 1300 bags of corn. There's nothing left now. I can grow it way cheaper than I can buy 50# bags
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: The old days.
[Re: Frankie]
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02/08/16 06:22 PM
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hayman
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You can already hunt over corn legally if it is planted there so I personally see no difference. The foodplot is the same as corn to me also.
“Everything Woke Turns To SH_T†Donald J. Trump
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Re: The old days.
[Re: ElkHunter]
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02/08/16 06:26 PM
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1.) The field is huge. The deer can come out anywhere and be out of range at all times. The pile of corn assures they will be right under your stand. 2.) The field is there 24/7 for months. Deer can come in the middle of the night if they choose. The field cannot be set on a timer to be available at 7:00am and 3:00pm. 3.) The field is in a fixed spot. As the season changes, and deer move into different areas, you cannot put the field in a bucket and bring it with you. It's there. 4.) Deer don't like standing out in the open in broad daylight. You can pour corn in the thickest of cover. 5.) Fields go through stages. Sometimes the greens are not palatable. Eventually, the deer burn it out. Corn can always be replenished, as needed, and it's always ripe. 6.) Food plots require spraying weeds, removing rocks, disc plowing the soil, putting down lime, planting seed, fertilizing and waiting......desperately hoping for the right mix of rain and sun and hoping you get a nice green field in several months. Bait is a little trip to the local co op.
It is hard to kill or catch anything sitting on the couch!
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Re: The old days.
[Re: ElkHunter]
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02/08/16 06:30 PM
02/08/16 06:30 PM
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They don't have to come when that timer goes off they can let it lay there till dark and just because you have to work harder to put a food plot in it doesn't make different.its still something man made to draw deer in. You can come up with all your reasons how they are different to make yourself feel better but at the end of the day they are the same thing
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: The old days.
[Re: Frankie]
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02/08/16 06:31 PM
02/08/16 06:31 PM
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"The Future Of Killing"
Little Johnny ask big Johnny what's a rub daddy? What's a White Oak daddy? What's a scrape Daddy? What's a bedding area daddy? What does a deer eat besides this yellow gold daddy? How do you use a tree stand daddy? Why don't we have to play the wind daddy? What does a grunt sound like daddy? I guess I need to ask grandpa these questions since you don't know the answers? No different than hunting a greenfield well , it is a difference . little johnny would learn how to plant/grow some thing . Little Johnny probably going to be playing travel ball while daddy pays someone to put the fields in
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: The old days.
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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02/08/16 06:38 PM
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Frankie
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"The Future Of Killing"
Little Johnny ask big Johnny what's a rub daddy? What's a White Oak daddy? What's a scrape Daddy? What's a bedding area daddy? What does a deer eat besides this yellow gold daddy? How do you use a tree stand daddy? Why don't we have to play the wind daddy? What does a grunt sound like daddy? I guess I need to ask grandpa these questions since you don't know the answers? No different than hunting a greenfield well , it is a difference . little johnny would learn how to plant/grow some thing . Little Johnny probably going to be playing travel ball while daddy pays someone to put the fields in yep ,,,,i've seen that done a few times . lol you're right though , food is food . with me it really don't matter , i'm gonna kill deer right on .
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Re: The old days.
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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02/08/16 07:34 PM
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They don't have to come when that timer goes off they can let it lay there till dark and just because you have to work harder to put a food plot in it doesn't make different.its still something man made to draw deer in. You can come up with all your reasons how they are different to make yourself feel better but at the end of the day they are the same thing Corn is just another poor excuse to not learn anything about hunting or what deer actually do between the time the feeder goes off and the trigger gets pulled other than did Billy Bobby put corn in the barrel and make sure there are some fresh batteries in the spinner. But if that what people want others to think of their great huntin' exploits, then yahoo! TV hunting has done some serious stupidfying of hunting for a quick buck (pun intended)!
Last edited by Fun4all; 02/08/16 07:36 PM.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: The old days.
[Re: Fun4all]
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02/08/16 09:31 PM
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They don't have to come when that timer goes off they can let it lay there till dark and just because you have to work harder to put a food plot in it doesn't make different.its still something man made to draw deer in. You can come up with all your reasons how they are different to make yourself feel better but at the end of the day they are the same thing Corn is just another poor excuse to not learn anything about hunting or what deer actually do between the time the feeder goes off and the trigger gets pulled other than did Billy Bobby put corn in the barrel and make sure there are some fresh batteries in the spinner. But if that what people want others to think of their great huntin' exploits, then yahoo! TV hunting has done some serious stupidfying of hunting for a quick buck (pun intended)! It's not my style of hunting but if it's legal and it gets more people on our side of the issue I can live with it
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: The old days.
[Re: ElkHunter]
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02/09/16 08:40 AM
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Personally don't think it will change anything. Most deer we kill are full of corn anyways. Empty bags of corn litter most of the roadways. There's only three of us and we use NO corn.
THE UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA
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Re: The old days.
[Re: mdf]
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02/09/16 11:51 AM
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Fun4all
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It will allow people to be more selective if you are after more mature deer. And as one person stated its your choice to even use it. Just like humans everything needs a balanced diet,keep on planting. Easier to be selective for those mature deer in a cattle yard!
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: The old days.
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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02/09/16 11:54 AM
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They don't have to come when that timer goes off they can let it lay there till dark and just because you have to work harder to put a food plot in it doesn't make different.its still something man made to draw deer in. You can come up with all your reasons how they are different to make yourself feel better but at the end of the day they are the same thing Corn is just another poor excuse to not learn anything about hunting or what deer actually do between the time the feeder goes off and the trigger gets pulled other than did Billy Bobby put corn in the barrel and make sure there are some fresh batteries in the spinner. But if that what people want others to think of their great huntin' exploits, then yahoo! TV hunting has done some serious stupidfying of hunting for a quick buck (pun intended)! It's not my style of hunting but if it's legal and it gets more people on our side of the issue I can live with it I am sure baiting is going make the fence sitters regarding hunting come flocking to the hunters defense!
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: The old days.
[Re: Fun4all]
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02/09/16 12:15 PM
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They don't have to come when that timer goes off they can let it lay there till dark and just because you have to work harder to put a food plot in it doesn't make different.its still something man made to draw deer in. You can come up with all your reasons how they are different to make yourself feel better but at the end of the day they are the same thing Corn is just another poor excuse to not learn anything about hunting or what deer actually do between the time the feeder goes off and the trigger gets pulled other than did Billy Bobby put corn in the barrel and make sure there are some fresh batteries in the spinner. But if that what people want others to think of their great huntin' exploits, then yahoo! TV hunting has done some serious stupidfying of hunting for a quick buck (pun intended)! It's not my style of hunting but if it's legal and it gets more people on our side of the issue I can live with it I am sure baiting is going make the fence sitters regarding hunting come flocking to the hunters defense! That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Hunting over bait is an easy way to hunt if that gets more young people deer sightings and gets them interested in the sport then I'm for it.
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: The old days.
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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02/09/16 05:42 PM
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Fun4all
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They don't have to come when that timer goes off they can let it lay there till dark and just because you have to work harder to put a food plot in it doesn't make different.its still something man made to draw deer in. You can come up with all your reasons how they are different to make yourself feel better but at the end of the day they are the same thing Corn is just another poor excuse to not learn anything about hunting or what deer actually do between the time the feeder goes off and the trigger gets pulled other than did Billy Bobby put corn in the barrel and make sure there are some fresh batteries in the spinner. But if that what people want others to think of their great huntin' exploits, then yahoo! TV hunting has done some serious stupidfying of hunting for a quick buck (pun intended)! It's not my style of hunting but if it's legal and it gets more people on our side of the issue I can live with it I am sure baiting is going make the fence sitters regarding hunting come flocking to the hunters defense! That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Hunting over bait is an easy way to hunt if that gets more young people deer sightings and gets them interested in the sport then I'm for it. LOL, I know teaching those kids how to take the easy way in life without actually learning anything about what they are doing is great idea! There is a reason you are taught how to count before you learn how to add, subtract, multiply and divide. Well, at least some learn. I know dumb right??
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: The old days.
[Re: ElkHunter]
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02/10/16 02:57 AM
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I'm amazed. all u guys have been feeding corn for years.
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Re: The old days.
[Re: deerman24]
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02/10/16 04:02 AM
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bill
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I'm amazed. all u guys have been feeding corn for years. I have never purchased the first bag of corn and have never needed to to kill a deer.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: The old days.
[Re: ElkHunter]
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02/10/16 05:07 AM
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hollywud20
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I own 31 acres which is covered in deer. I also have 3 little kids. If it is legalized I will hunt as I normally hunted. We saw plenty of deer. If deer airings go down due to others around baiting I guess I will broadcast a ton or so over our field to try to compete.
You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.
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Re: The old days.
[Re: ElkHunter]
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02/10/16 12:36 PM
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Fun4all
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For the ones that can understand. Give a man a fish and he will have a meal. Teach a man how to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.
Or, Give a man a deer and he can shoot a deer Teach a man how to hunt and he can shoot deer for a lifetime.
If you can't understand, then you have ever been taught how to hunt.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: The old days.
[Re: ElkHunter]
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02/10/16 12:39 PM
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CaptainGaba
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I can't believe all you meat hunters aren't jumping for joy about this. Everyone knows corn fed animals taste better!
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