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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CAL] #2856425
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Originally Posted by CAL
I’d think spraying is a necessary part of the process. Without it there’s too much competition.


I agree. Unless you plant really late like November.

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Anyone have any idea about how much rye should be this year? Is it a good crop? I prefer rye for my T&G


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2859933
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requesting some advice - the three patches I've turned into T&M, the weeds have really gotten to them this summer - horsenettle, sicklepod, bahia, some other bunch grasses I don't recognize (not cogongrass, as I've dug it up and it's not). As stated above, my summer crop failed for the most part. I've gone and bush hogged the patches to prevent the horse nettle and sickle pod from seeding out. Should I just go back to discing for now or is there some way to save a T&M? I'll have access to a sprayer in mid to late August. I'm thinking I spray and then go back to discing for this winter. Otherwise, i don't know how to keep these weeds out going forward.

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Just spray with gly and drag in your fall crop

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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2860220
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My fields are everything you can think of but I still do throw and mow. Do try and get rid of sicklepod though.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2860470
07/25/19 05:49 AM
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Alfisher, you think you have weeds now, go back to disking and you'll have twice as many. Every time you disk, you bring up dormant weed seed that will sprout. I would try and get rid of the sicklepod, even if you have to hand pull it. It's about to be august, so I would forget about a summer plot and just get ready for your fall plot.

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: Turkey_neck] #2860630
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Originally Posted by Turkey_neck
My fields are everything you can think of but I still do throw and mow. Do try and get rid of sicklepod though.

Same. I don’t really care so much what grows in the summer. I’m just growing deer plots. I don’t even spray in the fall usually. Sure I get a little weed competition, but the rye, clover etc still come up.

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2863392
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What are some good seed choices for fall planting? Are any of the blends specifically labelled as T&M products worth it or are you guys putting together your own fall blend?


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2863432
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Rye, wheat and triticale do best to me as far as large seeds go. Just about any small seeds will come up with adequate rain and good soil.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2863515
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Phil, not trying to be a smart butt, just wanted to clarify something just in case. T&M is not the same as T&G. A lot of people think that throw and mow and throw and grow are the same. As Turkey said cereal/grain rye, wheat, triticale do great with T&M. I have also used clovers and brassicas with great success.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2863787
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Blah, most of the T&G stuff they sell as mixes has cereal rye,wheat,clovers and brassica's in them. Rain is the key. With T&M you can get by with larger seeds, but for the most part with adequate rainfall it all works well.

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Yes. Rain makes it all what it is. Without it it’s just a crapshoot on anything


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2864199
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blumsden, so if I shouldn't go back, should I just spray in a month or so and wait for it to die and then try T&M again? I would like to do a few summer plots, so I'm going to have to solve my weed problem somehow. Again, less rain may have been my problem his year.

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: blahblahblah] #2864217
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Originally Posted by blahblahblah
Phil, not trying to be a smart butt, just wanted to clarify something just in case. T&M is not the same as T&G. A lot of people think that throw and mow and throw and grow are the same. As Turkey said cereal/grain rye, wheat, triticale do great with T&M. I have also used clovers and brassicas with great success.


Gotcha, yes sir. This will be my first year doing the T&M. We will be hitting spraying the food plots Labor Day weekend and then will spread seed and mow whenever the best opportunity comes along. Hopefully will save us a bunch of time and diesel fuel this year


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2864282
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Blumsden, almost every throw and grow I have ever seen has either gulf annual ryegrass or tetraploid ryegrass. That is not the same as cereal or grain or winter rye. If left to itself ryegrass can choke out a food plot.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: blahblahblah] #2864596
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Originally Posted by blahblahblah
Anyone have any idea about how much rye should be this year? Is it a good crop? I prefer rye for my T&G

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: blahblahblah] #2864817
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Originally Posted by blahblahblah
Blumsden, almost every throw and grow I have ever seen has either gulf annual ryegrass or tetraploid ryegrass. That is not the same as cereal or grain or winter rye. If left to itself ryegrass can choke out a food plot.

Oh i'm well aware of what ryegrass is. Cereal rye and wheat will sprout in the bed of your truck. Small seeds like brassica's and clovers are simple to grow, as well. The one's I've seen didn't have ryegrass. I hate ryegrass. I don't by a lot of mixes, certainly none with ryegrass as a component. Nowadays, i'm content with letting my fall planted yucchi clover and perennial clovers feed my deer thru the summer. Yucchi hangs around into June and the perrenials feed after that. Late august i'm preparing to get brassica's planted early September so I get good bulb growth.

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Originally Posted by ALFisher
blumsden, so if I shouldn't go back, should I just spray in a month or so and wait for it to die and then try T&M again? I would like to do a few summer plots, so I'm going to have to solve my weed problem somehow. Again, less rain may have been my problem his year.

That's exactly what I would do. If your wanting to eliminate weeds and grasses, I would bush hog, wait about 3 weeks and the spray. The key to killing weeds and grasses, is to spray before they go to seed and then don't disturb the soil. This, however, will make T&M harder the next year because you wont have as much thatch.

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Yeah Blumsden, I wasn't trying to be pompous. I just didn't want some of these guys to go off and buy some of this premixed stuff and end up fighting ryegrass for years. I appreciate everyone who offers information to help others.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2865493
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How long do y'all wait to seed and mow after spraying? I know it depends on the rain forecast, but if it was going to rain 2 weeks after you sprayed, would you plant then, or wait a week or two for another rain?


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