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8 u baseball? #1642270
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My son is moving up from t-ball to 8u baseball.? Is to coaches or a dad who has been there.what should a boy be expected to be able to do to be on pace with the other kids.guess I'm asking what would a coach expect him to do other than listen and respect him and the team?I'd have a few weeks to work with him at home before the first practice. Thanks for any information.

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Catch and throw and the coach will take care of the rest.


It is hard to kill or catch anything sitting on the couch!
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Catch and throw to a target. Any type of practice you can do at home is a plus!


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Catch and throw. Defense wins games. The best teams are the ones who gets outs the quickest. The worst is the one with the most errors. Almost every team will hit the ball.

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As others stated, basic fielding (catching, ground balls, throwing). He should also be able to make contact with a moving ball.


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The extra hours of you throwing with your kid, working on technique, form and strength is what will pay dividends...

PLUS thats time you'll never get back if you don't...
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You can work on sportsmanship and work ethic. Practicing catching, throwing, and hitting will improve skills to a point, but at some instance, natural ability will be the main factor that will move a youngster to the next level. (if that is your goal) Two of my buddies are ex coaches, (one in the Florida High School coaches hall of fame), ex college and pro players and coaches as well. They are retired and fathers contact them all the time about hitting lessons and pointers for their sons. The first question both of them ask is; Can your son hit? If the answer is no, then the reply back is; Sorry, I dont think I can help your son a whole lot. Baseball is an individual sport within a team setting and you have to have some natural talent to excel. You cannot teach a kid to throw a 90 plus MPH fastball or hit a baseball 400 feet.

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Originally Posted By: Peach
You can work on sportsmanship and work ethic. Practicing catching, throwing, and hitting will improve skills to a point, but at some instance, natural ability will be the main factor that will move a youngster to the next level. (if that is your goal) Two of my buddies are ex coaches, (one in the Florida High School coaches hall of fame), ex college and pro players and coaches as well. They are retired and fathers contact them all the time about hitting lessons and pointers for their sons. The first question both of them ask is; Can your son hit? If the answer is no, then the reply back is; Sorry, I dont think I can help your son a whole lot. Baseball is an individual sport within a team setting and you have to have some natural talent to excel. You cannot teach a kid to throw a 90 plus MPH fastball or hit a baseball 400 feet.


^^^^This is way off in left field. The OP ask what to do to get ready for 8u not 12u or high school ball. The kid is coming out of T-Ball. He could be just playing recreation ball / park ball. Going by the post above he might as well drop out and not play at all. As most posted above throw and catch and let the coach handle the rest. In 4 years you can come back and read the post above this one, but not now.


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Re: 8 u baseball? [Re: JD_Bowhunter1976] #1642782
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That is why I stated; "If this is your goal". I have a tremendous amount of experience in this area and was just providing some foresight, and yes it could be helpful down the road but probably not now. I also stated that you could work on sportsmanship, work ethic, and practice catching, throwing, and hitting to improve skills. Just took it one step farther.

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Let me say a little more right now catch and throw or at least keep the ball in front of him on defense. Teach mechanics and a good batting stance and form. Eli is 11 now and we work a lot leading up to the season starting normally 3 days a week anything from just throwing around in the yard to actual pitching practice and a ton of batting cage work. Once we start team practice which is twice a week we still try to get a extra day of hitting and pitching in and his batting average shows that. As others said at 8 defense is going to win the games most teams will but the ball in play. The team that makes the least errors will win 90% of the time.


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Originally Posted By: Peach
You can work on sportsmanship and work ethic. Practicing catching, throwing, and hitting will improve skills to a point, but at some instance, natural ability will be the main factor that will move a youngster to the next level. (if that is your goal) Two of my buddies are ex coaches, (one in the Florida High School coaches hall of fame), ex college and pro players and coaches as well. They are retired and fathers contact them all the time about hitting lessons and pointers for their sons. The first question both of them ask is; Can your son hit? If the answer is no, then the reply back is; Sorry, I dont think I can help your son a whole lot. Baseball is an individual sport within a team setting and you have to have some natural talent to excel. You cannot teach a kid to throw a 90 plus MPH fastball or hit a baseball 400 feet.


And very few will hit one 400' on raw talent. You can take an average kid and make them pretty good with good, consistent coaching. My girl is not the best athlete on the field but has developed into a pretty good pitcher. Coming up through the city program there were 3 pitchers in her age group. Everyone was really high on the other two who are better athletes. She will now pitch circles around the other two, but has had lots of very good coaching. And lots of work at home.

Right now just learn to throw and catch. Make it fun, not a job. NEVER get in the car after practice or game and tell them how they screwed up.


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Re: 8 u baseball? [Re: Spot] #1642896
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Thanks fellers sounds like he is already up to what will be expected. I have taught him to at least nock the ball down and keep it in front of him if he can't catch it.he knows to listen and respect coach and teammates or else! I'm not going to lye and say I can help him on proper batting form I was a football player not baseball I don't know proper form myself. But we play catch all the time.thanks for the info.

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Like other have said throwing , fielding and hitting fundamentals. Teach him how to do them CORRECTLY now, when he gets older bad habits throwing and at the plate are hard to break. Goes without saying gotta keep it fun for the little guys too.



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Re: 8 u baseball? [Re: k bush] #1643084
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Originally Posted By: k bush
Originally Posted By: Peach
You can work on sportsmanship and work ethic. Practicing catching, throwing, and hitting will improve skills to a point, but at some instance, natural ability will be the main factor that will move a youngster to the next level. (if that is your goal) Two of my buddies are ex coaches, (one in the Florida High School coaches hall of fame), ex college and pro players and coaches as well. They are retired and fathers contact them all the time about hitting lessons and pointers for their sons. The first question both of them ask is; Can your son hit? If the answer is no, then the reply back is; Sorry, I dont think I can help your son a whole lot. Baseball is an individual sport within a team setting and you have to have some natural talent to excel. You cannot teach a kid to throw a 90 plus MPH fastball or hit a baseball 400 feet.


And very few will hit one 400' on raw talent. You can take an average kid and make them pretty good with good, consistent coaching. My girl is not the best athlete on the field but has developed into a pretty good pitcher. Coming up through the city program there were 3 pitchers in her age group. Everyone was really high on the other two who are better athletes. She will now pitch circles around the other two, but has had lots of very good coaching. And lots of work at home.

Right now just learn to throw and catch. Make it fun, not a job. NEVER get in the car after practice or game and tell them how they screwed up.


agree

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I say work on proper mechanics. A coach can't spend 100 hours working with your son one-on-one to teach them proper mechanics. That's a fathers job to do in the back yard or take him to someone who can. Its really hard to teach that in 4-5 hours a week.


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I'm a stickler on mechanics. The problem I have is I don't have enough experience teaching them. I would consider lessons if I were you and could afford it. Just a few lessons then working on the drills at home will make a big difference.


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Originally Posted By: Peach
You cannot teach a kid to throw a 90 plus MPH fastball or hit a baseball 400 feet.


I disagree with this as mechanics are and can be taught. There are some kids that are naturals but most are taught.

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I believe God gives all different talents in different amounts. Baseball is a life lesson. It's about being the best you can be. Maximizing you talent through hard work.


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Originally Posted By: FastXD
Originally Posted By: Peach
You cannot teach a kid to throw a 90 plus MPH fastball or hit a baseball 400 feet.


I disagree with this as mechanics are and can be taught. There are some kids that are naturals but most are taught.

Almost every college coach and pro scout in the country would disagree with you. Mechanics might help a pitcher that throws 88 eventually throw 90 but you have to be born with that ability. Its all in the physiological make-up and specific fiber recruitment of each individual. Thats why some pitchers that throw 90 plus cannot bench press 140lbs and some pitchers with poor mechanics can throw 95. You cannot take a guy that throws 75 and work on his mechanics and turn him into a 90 plus.

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Good grief, the guy just wants to help his 8 YO, he's a long way from playing MLB. If he does have God given abilities to throw 90 at age 18, learning proper mechanics now might keep him from arm injuries.



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I'd suggest that you tell his coach you'll be glad to be an extra adult on the field, and that you'll support him any way you can. When the time is right, let it be known that coaches should an advocate for every player on the team... daddy ball has turned off too many good kids from sports.

Teach the basics. Make sure the kids know how to properly catch a ball. Their natural instinct will be to catch it with their glove facing palm up, which can let the ball jump into their face. They'll also need to learn how to run the bases. Keep it positive for all the kids.

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Thanks again fellers.I'll take the advice given. But I will say I'm not trying to turn him into a Nolan Ryan or a Mark Maguire. I just want him to have a good time and learn the game and someway be a help to which ever team he gets on.I refuse to be one of the parents that try to coach the kids sitting in the stands.I'll help in anyway that I can but I want my boys to know that daddy's not the coach and to listen and respect what he is teaching them. They no I don't know much about baseball and I want them to learn the proper technique from someone that does. I'll be watching and listening myself to be able to help them out at home.appreciate it thanks again for the help I'm grateful.

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Work with your son as much as possible off of the field. That is where he will learn the most. You have to make it fun for him and work at his pace, not what you want him to be.
I griped and griped about my son throwing balls into my couch for 2-3 years, hitting the wall and putting dents in the sheetrock in the house, but, it helped him greatly with his accuracy and throwing motion. He is in 8th grade now and has a very strong arm. HE has to love it, and the more fun you can make it, the better he will get. Just don't be in a hurry with him and let his natural progression act out. I have spent thousands with trainers, but the best work he gets is when he wants to do it on his own.
My son started running cross country this last fall and is running indoor track, he has worked on his own and spent much more than time on his own than any coach could provide him. He went from running like a grandpaw to being top 10 in the state and top 20 in the nation this season in his age group. The athlete has to have the "want to" or it is all just noise.


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Re: 8 u baseball? [Re: Spot] #1643884
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As a former High School Baseball coach who only does individual hitting and pitching lessons now, take this advice. 8u is a good time to teach Fundamentals. Im doing lessons now and working with my own daughter who is 8 (but im moving her up to 10u). It is much easier to help a kid at age 11-12 who was taught correct mechanics early on, than to re-work a bad swing or throwing motion that has become habit. I dont know if you played or your baseball knowledge but if your unsure about what to teach find someone who can get them in the proper swing and throwing motion. They will never know how to do it wrong if they have only been taught to do it right. I dont preach a perfect swing every rep but I try to get them in a good fundamental position so that we only have to make small adjustments. Its worth the time and $ if you get with the right instructor. Ive had kids who could barely touch a ball at age 7-8 who are now 10 and you cant throw a ball past them. Just my two cents but you are to be commended for begin involved with him. He wont forget it and Its some of the best memories for players and parents.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c_onhzgvcY&sns=em

This just popped in my head. Absolutely no offense meant by this, but this is a great commercial for this topic.


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Hope you read this before the many of the previous posts frustrate you to the point you quit. If you want more details send me a PM and I will respond in a few days.
THROWING
1.Focus on proper arm slot and a good snap release for basic throwing along with proper grip so that the ball doesn't rise, fall or move too much with the throw.
CATCHING
2.Emphasize catching the ball in front of and not behind or beside you along with the correct positioning of the glove. This goes for catching a fly ball or grounder. On a grounder get low and glove out front. A good smoothe transfer from the glove to hand throw.
HITTING
3.Focus on keeping a short swing and keeping the hands inside the ball when swinging. Keeping the head still with no movement(Hit with the eyes not the head....) DONT CAST YOUR HANDS OUT with the swing is another way to think about it... this is biggest flaw in a youngsters swing. USE LOTS of tee work and short toss work so he continuously sees the ball in strike zone and learns to hit what is thrown correctly. Set the ball up on the tee...inside(front corner closest to pitcher on inside of plate), middle(middle of plate)and on the outside(back corner farthest from pitcher on outside of plate and teach him to hit to all the field. Inside to LF. Middle. Outside to to RF. NO POPUPS or grounders. Line drives. His head should finish the swing in the same position it starts from.
At 8 I would remember that he might decide he wants to be an ant farmer next summer and quit baseball and in your case realize that he may never be a mature ball player. Keep it fun and simple and allow him room to both succeed and fail. Get more detailed and he improves. Don't leave the basics until he can do them consistly. Good luck and have a blast with him....There isn't much this side of heaven that matches spending time on a baseball field with your son. Be patient.


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Great Post! ^^^^^

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Originally Posted By: roscopeecotrane
Hope you read this before the many of the previous posts frustrate you to the point you quit. If you want more details send me a PM and I will respond in a few days.
THROWING
1.Focus on proper arm slot and a good snap release for basic throwing along with proper grip so that the ball doesn't rise, fall or move too much with the throw.
CATCHING
2.Emphasize catching the ball in front of and not behind or beside you along with the correct positioning of the glove. This goes for catching a fly ball or grounder. On a grounder get low and glove out front. A good smoothe transfer from the glove to hand throw.
HITTING
3.Focus on keeping a short swing and keeping the hands inside the ball when swinging. Keeping the head still with no movement(Hit with the eyes not the head....) DONT CAST YOUR HANDS OUT with the swing is another way to think about it... this is biggest flaw in a youngsters swing. USE LOTS of tee work and short toss work so he continuously sees the ball in strike zone and learns to hit what is thrown correctly. Set the ball up on the tee...inside(front corner closest to pitcher on inside of plate), middle(middle of plate)and on the outside(back corner farthest from pitcher on outside of plate and teach him to hit to all the field. Inside to LF. Middle. Outside to to RF. NO POPUPS or grounders. Line drives. His head should finish the swing in the same position it starts from.
At 8 I would remember that he might decide he wants to be an ant farmer next summer and quit baseball and in your case realize that he may never be a mature ball player. Keep it fun and simple and allow him room to both succeed and fail. Get more detailed and he improves. Don't leave the basics until he can do them consistly. Good luck and have a blast with him....There isn't much this side of heaven that matches spending time on a baseball field with your son. Be patient.

Pretty solid advice here, the trick is being able to communicate it to an 8yr. old. I use a lot of catch phrases.
Throwing = Ball on a shelf, Gun site up, Elbow your lil bro. finish with your $ in your pocket.
Batting has entire different phrases. Use things they can relate to and they will remember it. be creative- I have put candy in the tube of the Tee to teach them to keep their head down to find the prize. LOL


Its not the will to win but the will to prepare to win!
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