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Nosler Partition didn't expand
#1569079
12/18/15 06:54 PM
12/18/15 06:54 PM
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Posts: 3,348 Monroe County, AL
skintback
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I shot a 188lb 9pt yesterday afternoon. I shot him with my Browning BAR 270 shooting 130 gr Federal Peemium Nosler Partitions. It was about a 50yd shot and he dropped in his tracks. While cleaning him I noticed that the exit wound was no bigger than the entrance wound. This is the first deer I've shot with these rounds. Was it due to close proximity? I've heard a lot of positives about the round, but just not certain why it didn't leave a large exit wound.
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Re: Nosler Partition didn't expand
[Re: skintback]
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12/18/15 08:26 PM
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I don't care for them for "whitetail" sized game..
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Re: Nosler Partition didn't expand
[Re: skintback]
#1569125
12/18/15 08:56 PM
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Big Game Hunter
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They normally don't leave a "big" exit wound but the wound channel is usually significant.
They don't "explode" like some other bullets do but you will more than likely ALWAYS get an exit.
It's my favorite bullet hands down. I shoot some big critters with some small bullets and Nosler is my choice.
You can't go wrong with the Partition but if you want a larger exit, try the Accubond.
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Re: Nosler Partition didn't expand
[Re: Big Game Hunter]
#1569173
12/19/15 01:31 AM
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They normally don't leave a "big" exit wound but the wound channel is usually significant.
They don't "explode" like some other bullets do but you will more than likely ALWAYS get an exit.
It's my favorite bullet hands down. I shoot some big critters with some small bullets and Nosler is my choice.
You can't go wrong with the Partition but if you want a larger exit, try the Accubond. 100% correct!
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Re: Nosler Partition didn't expand
[Re: skintback]
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12/19/15 02:39 AM
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I shot a 188lb 9pt yesterday afternoon. I shot him with my Browning BAR 270 shooting 130 gr Federal Peemium Nosler Partitions. It was about a 50yd shot and he dropped in his tracks. While cleaning him I noticed that the exit wound was no bigger than the entrance wound. This is the first deer I've shot with these rounds. Was it due to close proximity? I've heard a lot of positives about the round, but just not certain why it didn't leave a large exit wound. Just because the exit is small doesn't mean it didn't expand. Partitions are designed to dump most of its energy through allowing the front half of the bullet to expand violently, and then the rear portion (smaller diameter) continues onward passing through a long would channel. If you had a high velocity impact with a 270 at 50yds, the front half probably blew off causing extreme internal damage, and the smaller diameter rear shank kept going. I'd say if it dropped in its tracks and you got an exit, that's good performance. When you cleaned him did it look like the wound channel had caused damage?
Last edited by M48scout; 12/19/15 02:41 AM.
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Re: Nosler Partition didn't expand
[Re: Big Game Hunter]
#1569217
12/19/15 02:52 AM
12/19/15 02:52 AM
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Posts: 25,696 Locust Fork, Alabama
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They normally don't leave a "big" exit wound but the wound channel is usually significant.
They don't "explode" like some other bullets do but you will more than likely ALWAYS get an exit.
It's my favorite bullet hands down. I shoot some big critters with some small bullets and Nosler is my choice.
You can't go wrong with the Partition but if you want a larger exit, try the Accubond. Mine too. I hunt with Partitions exclusively. I've shot the Accubond and don't like it because it tears up the meat too bad. My question to the OP was what caliber and what distance? If you are shooting a 7 mag or 300 and the distance was pretty short it may have blown through him before it fully expanded.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
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Re: Nosler Partition didn't expand
[Re: skintback]
#1569273
12/19/15 03:38 AM
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Posts: 3,348 Monroe County, AL
skintback
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His insides/vitals were jelly although not a large wound channel like with ballistic tips I've shot in the past. The caliber was a 270 at about a 50 yard shot. Sounds based on your descriptions it worked as it was supposed to. I was expecting a larger exit wound.
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Re: Nosler Partition didn't expand
[Re: skintback]
#1569365
12/19/15 04:55 AM
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Nosler Partitions are prolly the most misunderstood bullet shot at deer. I hear the same "it didn't expand" about NPs. It simply isn't true.
I've shot NPs in 6mms, 270s, 30/06s, 7mmRMs, 300WMs, and 375H&Hs. Never, in several hundred kills, have I ever seen a NP not expand. Or penetrate well. And I look at bullet damage from entrance to exit on most kills.
Most bullets that I have recovered have expanded to well over 2X diameter and retained 80% weight. The front half jacket is thinner than most jackets of other same cal/weight bullets and expands rapidly. Back half is enclosed and cannot expand..it just penetrates and usually exits. Prolly recovered less than 10 NPs from killed game.
One cannot drive a bullet faster to make it fly thru BEFORE expanding. The faster, as in close shots, you drive it the faster(quicker) it expands.
I've shot big deer in the ass and recovered a NP in the briskit. I've shot em in the front and recovered em in the back of the ham. I shot a 2000# Eland in Zim just forward of the hindquarter, thru near four FEET of guts and vitals, to lodge in the front edge of the off shoulder with a 300gr NP out of a 375H&H. He ran 200 yards and fell dead running.
I have killed a LOT of deer with a lot of different ctg/bullet combos over the years. The Nosler Partition is by far and away the best bullet I have shot deer with. It will kill ANY deer at ANY range, at ANY angle if you place the bullet correctly.
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Re: Nosler Partition didn't expand
[Re: BC]
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12/19/15 05:30 AM
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riflenut
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If you are shooting a 7 mag or 300 and the distance was pretty short it may have blown through him before it fully expanded.
This does not happen in my opinion. The harder and faster you push any bullet, the more likely it is to expand.
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Re: Nosler Partition didn't expand
[Re: riflenut]
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12/19/15 05:37 AM
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If you are shooting a 7 mag or 300 and the distance was pretty short it may have blown through him before it fully expanded.
This does not happen in my opinion. The harder and faster you push any bullet, the more likely it is to expand. You might be right, I definitely don't get into the science of bullets. I had an old reloading buddy tell me this one time.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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Re: Nosler Partition didn't expand
[Re: Stob]
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12/19/15 06:40 AM
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I may be wrong but if he was DRT, that's all that matters.
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Re: Nosler Partition didn't expand
[Re: hillmp]
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12/19/15 05:52 PM
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Not trying to be a smart ass but you can't compare a partition to a ballistic tip in any way but both being bullets. They have a specific design that defines them. Partitions are designed for penetration and exit wounds. Ballistic tips on the other hand are designed to expand and fragment quickly for maximum energy transfer. No comparison in the design other than they both kill. I know that, that's why I switched, but I was expecting more of a wound channel than what I got. I didn't recover the slug, as it wasn't in the deer. There was a small exit wound, just not what I was expecting. As stated before, he was dead right there so it's not that big of a deal.
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Re: Nosler Partition didn't expand
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12/19/15 06:52 PM
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If you are shooting a 7 mag or 300 and the distance was pretty short it may have blown through him before it fully expanded.
This does not happen in my opinion. The harder and faster you push any bullet, the more likely it is to expand. You might be right, I definitely don't get into the science of bullets. I had an old reloading buddy tell me this one time. That's like saying a motorcycle was going so fast it didn't expand or tear apart when it hit the 18-wheeler. More speed = more expansion
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Re: Nosler Partition didn't expand
[Re: BhamFred]
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12/20/15 09:25 AM
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Posts: 8,670 NW Alabama
R_H_Clark
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Nosler Partitions are prolly the most misunderstood bullet shot at deer. I hear the same "it didn't expand" about NPs. It simply isn't true.
I've shot NPs in 6mms, 270s, 30/06s, 7mmRMs, 300WMs, and 375H&Hs. Never, in several hundred kills, have I ever seen a NP not expand. Or penetrate well. And I look at bullet damage from entrance to exit on most kills.
Most bullets that I have recovered have expanded to well over 2X diameter and retained 80% weight. The front half jacket is thinner than most jackets of other same cal/weight bullets and expands rapidly. Back half is enclosed and cannot expand..it just penetrates and usually exits. Prolly recovered less than 10 NPs from killed game.
One cannot drive a bullet faster to make it fly thru BEFORE expanding. The faster, as in close shots, you drive it the faster(quicker) it expands.
I've shot big deer in the ass and recovered a NP in the briskit. I've shot em in the front and recovered em in the back of the ham. I shot a 2000# Eland in Zim just forward of the hindquarter, thru near four FEET of guts and vitals, to lodge in the front edge of the off shoulder with a 300gr NP out of a 375H&H. He ran 200 yards and fell dead running.
I have killed a LOT of deer with a lot of different ctg/bullet combos over the years. The Nosler Partition is by far and away the best bullet I have shot deer with. It will kill ANY deer at ANY range, at ANY angle if you place the bullet correctly. Thanks for addressing the myth of a bullet going too fast to expand. Most of the time when you see huge exit wounds it's because several pieces of the bullet exited. This works fine in a broadside lung shot but a bullet that separates into several pieces may be disastrous on a shot that requires deep penetration. The fact that there was a lot of internal damage, jelly inside, shows that it did expand perfectly. It's the shock wave from expansion that causes that kind of damage. It's like moving your hand through water and opening it up to cause a wave. The bullet is smaller than your hand but it's moving hundreds of times faster too. A small exit doesn't mean the bullet didn't expand,especially if there is massive internal damage. Personally ,I greatly prefer a bullet that will stay together and penetrate. They have saved me from a possibly lost deer when a shot has gone differently than expected.
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