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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: Irishguy]
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11/24/15 03:55 PM
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Personally... I don't want a para-military police force. They are here to "protect and to serve." If a cop wants to play Rambo then he needs to join the appropriate branch of service.
Agree 100%
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: yotetrapper]
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11/24/15 03:59 PM
11/24/15 03:59 PM
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crenshawco
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Personally... I don't want a para-military police force. They are here to "protect and to serve." If a cop wants to play Rambo then he needs to join the appropriate branch of service.
X2 the US citizenry is plenty enough well armed to defend itself from ISIS So while you are at work and ISIS takes your local school hostage you are going to go home, get your guns, your buddies and go to their rescue before they kill most everyone in the school. Okay, dang y'all are good! Not to say you're wrong john but if the government wasn't pussified like it is now we wouldn't have these problems. That's part of the Democrat plan of disarming the citizenry and further eroding their rights. The more authority police have, the easier it is to diminish the rights of citizens. There is no logical reason for local police forces in any municipality to be armed better than many countries across the globe. Cops aren't fighting any wars. That is not a part of their job. They're not supposed to protect the citizens from those who wish to do Americans harm? I'm sorry, but you are wrong. Local police, SWAT, ect are a huge deterrent to terrorists, but the more equipment Big Ears takes away the less the enemy will fear. Your response is exactly what terrorists want to happen in the countries they attack. They want the public to fear them to the point that they become dependent on the government to take care of them. They don't want us to enjoy the freedoms of doing what we want. I'm of the opinion that American citizens should be able to take care of themselves, and in the rare instance they cannot, there are Federal agencies who can. Again, it is not part of local police's job description to fight enemies in battle type scenarios. There are specifically trained units and agencies for that.
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: doekiller]
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11/24/15 04:14 PM
11/24/15 04:14 PM
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you do realize when you are engaged in a shootout and police show up you will be disarmed and handcuffed. They are not going to allow you to continue shooting. And you want to local cops with this much firepower? IMHO I SURE DO. ANYTHING THAT WILL BENEFIT THEM IN STOPPING THE THREAT FASTER AND MORE EFFECTIVELY VS. A BARNEY FIFE AND A 6 SHOT REVOLVER. THE CRIMINALS NOW DAYS HAVE ACCESS TO ARMOR PIERCING AMMO THAT WILL EAT RIGHT THRU A VEST AND SOMETIMES IT IS A NECESSITY
Fletch Triple Toe Assassins, Where Pellets Meet Peckers
"A turkey's brain development exceeds that of nearly all vice-presidents." - TOM KELLY
The bird possesses a remarkable ability to turn arrogance into hopelessness. - TOM KELLY
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: crenshawco]
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11/24/15 04:24 PM
11/24/15 04:24 PM
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yotetrapper
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Personally... I don't want a para-military police force. They are here to "protect and to serve." If a cop wants to play Rambo then he needs to join the appropriate branch of service.
X2 the US citizenry is plenty enough well armed to defend itself from ISIS So while you are at work and ISIS takes your local school hostage you are going to go home, get your guns, your buddies and go to their rescue before they kill most everyone in the school. Okay, dang y'all are good! Not to say you're wrong john but if the government wasn't pussified like it is now we wouldn't have these problems. That's part of the Democrat plan of disarming the citizenry and further eroding their rights. The more authority police have, the easier it is to diminish the rights of citizens. There is no logical reason for local police forces in any municipality to be armed better than many countries across the globe. Cops aren't fighting any wars. That is not a part of their job. They're not supposed to protect the citizens from those who wish to do Americans harm? I'm sorry, but you are wrong. Local police, SWAT, ect are a huge deterrent to terrorists, but the more equipment Big Ears takes away the less the enemy will fear. Your response is exactly what terrorists want to happen in the countries they attack. They want the public to fear them to the point that they become dependent on the government to take care of them. They don't want us to enjoy the freedoms of doing what we want. I'm of the opinion that American citizens should be able to take care of themselves, and in the rare instance they cannot, there are Federal agencies who can. Again, it is not part of local police's job description to fight enemies in battle type scenarios. There are specifically trained units and agencies for that. Who said anything about taking freedoms away from citizens? And I am of the thought that I would rather local men(police) be able to protect my community than for the Feds to come in declaring Marshal law. Plus, how many armed military men/women do you see patrolling your community, how long do you think they take to arrive and start kicking taliban butt? Don't you understand that our current enemies don't fight battles? They don't fight wars with front lines. They hit seemingly random targets and don't want to do battle, they just want to kill. Paris and the Beslan school attacks are perfect examples.
Jon Bartlett
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: PEA_RIDGE]
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11/24/15 04:26 PM
11/24/15 04:26 PM
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doekiller
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you do realize when you are engaged in a shootout and police show up you will be disarmed and handcuffed. They are not going to allow you to continue shooting. And you want to local cops with this much firepower? IMHO I SURE DO. ANYTHING THAT WILL BENEFIT THEM IN STOPPING THE THREAT FASTER AND MORE EFFECTIVELY VS. A BARNEY FIFE AND A 6 SHOT REVOLVER. THE CRIMINALS NOW DAYS HAVE ACCESS TO ARMOR PIERCING AMMO THAT WILL EAT RIGHT THRU A VEST AND SOMETIMES IT IS A NECESSITY Armour peircing ammo? Who is listening to the media. Those pesky new tangled full metal jacketed ammo bullet thingies. That stuff is such new technology. You want Barny Fife with a fully auto and a armored troop carrier. They makes you feel safe? Not me.
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: perchjerker]
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11/24/15 04:30 PM
11/24/15 04:30 PM
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mark
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Yeah, because a paramilitary police force worked out so well in 1930 Germany.
Sig Sauer, to hell and back reliable.
Whatever suits you just tickles me plum to death.
Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: perchjerker]
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11/24/15 04:31 PM
11/24/15 04:31 PM
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PEA_RIDGE
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WELL HOW BOUT YOU BECOME A LEO AND HAVE TO TAKE FIRE FROM SOMEONE WITH SKS, AK-47, AR-15, OR ANY BIG CALIBER GUN , SAY .270 .308 300MAG AND SEE IF YOU DONT WISH YOU HAD A DAMN A.P.C. TO RIDE IN.
Fletch Triple Toe Assassins, Where Pellets Meet Peckers
"A turkey's brain development exceeds that of nearly all vice-presidents." - TOM KELLY
The bird possesses a remarkable ability to turn arrogance into hopelessness. - TOM KELLY
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: doekiller]
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11/24/15 04:36 PM
11/24/15 04:36 PM
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PEA_RIDGE
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Is anyone surprised that two people involved with law enforcement want heavily armed police? COLORADO THEATER SHOOTING FOR EXAMPLE.. GUN FREE ZONE. FOLKS DIDNT HAVE GUNS. SHOOTER WAS ARMED TO THE MAX WITH HIGH POWERED WEAPONS CAPABLE OF PIERCING A BULLET "PROOF" VEST. IF HE CHOSE TO DO SO HE COULD HAVE VERY EASILY PICKED OFF ANY POLICE OFFICER THAT ENTERED THE VENUE. IF I RECALL THE POLICE DEPT HAD AN A.P.C AND THE WEAPONRY AND TRAINING/TACTICS TO DEAL WITH AN ACTIVE SHOOTER SITUATION. VS THE FED'S THAT MIGHT TAKE 4+ HRS TO GET CALLED OUT AND ON SCENE.. TIME = LIVES SAVED.
Fletch Triple Toe Assassins, Where Pellets Meet Peckers
"A turkey's brain development exceeds that of nearly all vice-presidents." - TOM KELLY
The bird possesses a remarkable ability to turn arrogance into hopelessness. - TOM KELLY
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: PEA_RIDGE]
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11/24/15 04:38 PM
11/24/15 04:38 PM
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Reaper
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Is anyone surprised that two people involved with law enforcement want heavily armed police? COLORADO THEATER SHOOTING FOR EXAMPLE.. GUN FREE ZONE. FOLKS DIDNT HAVE GUNS. SHOOTER WAS ARMED TO THE MAX WITH HIGH POWERED WEAPONS CAPABLE OF PIERCING A BULLET "PROOF" VEST. IF HE CHOSE TO DO SO HE COULD HAVE VERY EASILY PICKED OFF ANY POLICE OFFICER THAT ENTERED THE VENUE. IF I RECALL THE POLICE DEPT HAD AN A.P.C AND THE WEAPONRY AND TRAINING/TACTICS TO DEAL WITH AN ACTIVE SHOOTER SITUATION. VS THE FED'S THAT MIGHT TAKE 4+ HRS TO GET CALLED OUT AND ON SCENE.. TIME = LIVES SAVED. If that wasn't a gun free zone it would have ended a lot sooner.
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: mark]
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11/24/15 04:43 PM
11/24/15 04:43 PM
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crenshawco
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Yeah, because a paramilitary police force worked out so well in 1930 Germany. Exactly. Over armed police = loss of rights. You all know what they say about history, and it repeating. Our forefathers understood this and created the second amendment so that the citizens of the US could stand up to tyrannical and overreaching government. By giving local police forces tanks, MRAP's, rpg's, and other war munitions, you are giving the government more power over citizens. That is not what this country was founded on and succeeeded on. It succeeded because of individual liberty and freedom to succeed without government intervention.
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: PEA_RIDGE]
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11/24/15 04:43 PM
11/24/15 04:43 PM
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doekiller
Freak of Nature
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WELL HOW BOUT YOU BECOME A LEO AND HAVE TO TAKE FIRE FROM SOMEONE WITH SKS, AK-47, AR-15, OR ANY BIG CALIBER GUN , SAY .270 .308 300MAG AND SEE IF YOU DONT WISH YOU HAD A DAMN A.P.C. TO RIDE IN. Because soooooo many times that is what police face.
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: crenshawco]
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11/24/15 04:52 PM
11/24/15 04:52 PM
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Reyn
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Yeah, because a paramilitary police force worked out so well in 1930 Germany. By giving local police forces tanks, MRAP's, rpg's, and other war munitions, you are giving the government more power over citizens. That is not what this country was founded on and succeeeded on. It succeeded because of individual liberty and freedom to succeed without government intervention. Which dept. we're getting tanks, RPGs and war munitions? I know of armored vehicle with no weapons attached. What firepower do they have that the average person cannot get. Class III? Non LEOs can still get those. 50 BMG can still be purchased.
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: perchjerker]
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11/24/15 04:58 PM
11/24/15 04:58 PM
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buzzard
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If those vehicles are needed then the national guard should be brought in.
"Hell with them fellows, buzzard got to eat same as a worm" Josey Wales
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: perchjerker]
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11/24/15 04:58 PM
11/24/15 04:58 PM
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PEA_RIDGE
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NEED IT AND AINT GOT IT YOUR FU@^ED
NEVER NEED IT AND HAVE IT THATS GOOD
I BET WHEN YOU IN THE MALL OR BJCC AND SOME CRAZY shucks COMES IN AND SHOOTS THE PLACE UP AND TAKES HOSTAGES OR SUCH AND THE POPO COME IN WITH THEIR BIG BAD MILITARY GUNS AND shucks AND SAVES YOUR ASS, YOU FAMILY AND FRIENDS YOU WILL BE GRATEFUL THEY HAVE IT.. AM I RIGHT?? OR DO YOU WANT TO SIT IN THERE FOR 4,5,6+ HOURS WHY THE FEDS COME IN, GET BLUE PRINTS, FIND ACCESS POINTS ECT AND BY THEN YALL MIGHT BE DEAD.. THE UNITS THAT HAVE THEM ARE VERY WELL TRAINED SOME TO MIL STANDARD FOR THE FACT THAT A VAST MAJORITY OF L.E.O'S NOW DAYS ARE EX-MILITARY, IN HOW THEY USE THE EQUIPMENT AND SUCH AND IN HOSTAGE SITUATIONS
Fletch Triple Toe Assassins, Where Pellets Meet Peckers
"A turkey's brain development exceeds that of nearly all vice-presidents." - TOM KELLY
The bird possesses a remarkable ability to turn arrogance into hopelessness. - TOM KELLY
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: doekiller]
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11/24/15 05:00 PM
11/24/15 05:00 PM
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yotetrapper
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Is anyone surprised that two people involved with law enforcement want heavily armed police? And why do you think that is? I'll tell you. I want to see people protected. Can random armed citizens stop a single terrorist at a theater? Absolutely. And for the record I hate gun free zones just like anyone else and believe everyone should carry every single day! However, do y'all actually think there are enough trained and armed citizens to take down a group of 3 or 4 well trained heavily armed terrorists in an efficient and timely manner? When a Paris style attack happens here only few citizens will fight back, those that do will most likely be out gunned( your pistol against a AK) and the ones called upon to kill the enemy will be the police. I want them ready.
Jon Bartlett
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: Reyn]
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11/24/15 05:02 PM
11/24/15 05:02 PM
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PEA_RIDGE
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Yeah, because a paramilitary police force worked out so well in 1930 Germany. By giving local police forces tanks, MRAP's, rpg's, and other war munitions, you are giving the government more power over citizens. That is not what this country was founded on and succeeeded on. It succeeded because of individual liberty and freedom to succeed without government intervention. Which dept. we're getting tanks, RPGs and war munitions? I know of armored vehicle with no weapons attached. What firepower do they have that the average person cannot get. Class III? Non LEOs can still get those. 50 BMG can still be purchased. NONE THEY WERE ONLY GETTING THE VEHICLES WITH NOWEAPONS AND SOME GOT HELICOPTERS
Fletch Triple Toe Assassins, Where Pellets Meet Peckers
"A turkey's brain development exceeds that of nearly all vice-presidents." - TOM KELLY
The bird possesses a remarkable ability to turn arrogance into hopelessness. - TOM KELLY
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Re: Big Ears Disarms police,
[Re: Reyn]
#1535108
11/24/15 05:03 PM
11/24/15 05:03 PM
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Posts: 12,858 Montgomery / Luverne
crenshawco
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Yeah, because a paramilitary police force worked out so well in 1930 Germany. By giving local police forces tanks, MRAP's, rpg's, and other war munitions, you are giving the government more power over citizens. That is not what this country was founded on and succeeeded on. It succeeded because of individual liberty and freedom to succeed without government intervention. Which dept. we're getting tanks, RPGs and war munitions? I know of armored vehicle with no weapons attached. What firepower do they have that the average person cannot get. Class III? Non LEOs can still get those. 50 BMG can still be purchased. Do a little digging around here. Might just be informing http://bridge.caspio.net/dp.asp?AppKey=36701000b255adcfe6ca4b13a8a4
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