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Re: Radical idea for Game Check
[Re: walt4dun]
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09/02/15 12:18 PM
09/02/15 12:18 PM
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Remington270
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Im not sure I follow? You can already choose to voluntarily report each time you pull the trigger?
Im curious - what are your variety of reasons? I can't think of one. It's just like a random survey of voters, we don't need 100% of the voters to know that Trump is ahead. 1% will suffice. And if you can't think of a single reason why game check is a bad idea, you're not thinking very hard  I don't support more government, as a personal policy, when it needlessly interferes with RIGHTS (not privileges) of citizens.
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Re: Radical idea for Game Check
[Re: PineStalker89]
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09/02/15 12:19 PM
09/02/15 12:19 PM
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I don't see it making sense to do that.
A. Not everyone that gets a license kills a deer.
B. Like previously stated, many people won't think about a checked box two months down the road.
C. A lot of people that are killing deer, kill more than one.
It just wouldn't help breakdown the numbers, too many variables. Ok, how about checking a box that says "I'm ok being called with a phone call in 6 months to ask me how many deer I killed. Just like HIP!
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Re: Radical idea for Game Check
[Re: slipn]
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09/02/15 12:21 PM
09/02/15 12:21 PM
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It would make harvest data a whole lot easier to collect. And that accomplishes what exaclty? If I told you I had a big ol barrel full of fish, and then I told you I killed 100, how many are left in the barrel? Don't know the answer? I don't either, so how many deer do we have in the state? If they can figger that out then they don't need the game check in the first place. And if they can't figure that out, then how do we know how many deer we ended up with?
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Re: Radical idea for Game Check
[Re: Remington270]
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09/02/15 12:26 PM
09/02/15 12:26 PM
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It would make harvest data a whole lot easier to collect. And that accomplishes what exaclty? If I told you I had a big ol barrel full of fish, and then I told you I killed 100, how many are left in the barrel? Don't know the answer? I don't either, so how many deer do we have in the state? If they can figger that out then they don't need the game check in the first place. And if they can't figure that out, then how do we know how many deer we ended up with? I guess we could just turn a blind eye to it, go back to how it was in the depression, with everyone killing what they want, and say screw the deer herd, because it makes me uncomfortable, when the big bad gubment asks hunters to fill out a voluntary survey. Because I know deep down that it is a start in figuring out hunter satisfaction, success, and just how many fish are in that barrel, because big guvernment scares me and I don't want to let them make a step in a direction that brings them closer to understanding those things, because I don't give a chit.....
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Re: Radical idea for Game Check
[Re: Remington270]
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09/02/15 12:38 PM
09/02/15 12:38 PM
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Ahh the old "reductio ad absurdum" retort. Reducing an argument to absurdity to invalidate it. Nicely done!  I can play too: I'm sorry if I'm not a Hillary loving Bernie Sanders groupie that wants the government make me call and ask permission before I shoot a deer. That would be great!
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Re: Radical idea for Game Check
[Re: Remington270]
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09/02/15 12:45 PM
09/02/15 12:45 PM
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You don't need to check a box. If you used Game Check you'd know that you already have to give your license number when you report it, so they already have a good idea of how many licensed hunters are participating. They know how many licenses are sold each year. I guess the only part they don't know is how many lifetime license holders are dead or gave up hunting.
Lastly, it's not interfering with a RIGHT. It's a minor inconvenience at most. It's not stopping you from hunting or killing deer. The state is responsible for maintaining our game populations. We can argue all day long about whether they are doing it correctly or not but to deny them access to data that would make the job more accurate is downright foolish. You will not find a more staunch supporter of smaller government than me, but I don't see this being a huge nuisance. It's important data that most states require their licensed hunters to collect for their own benefit.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: Radical idea for Game Check
[Re: Yelp softly]
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09/02/15 12:57 PM
09/02/15 12:57 PM
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You don't need to check a box. If you used Game Check you'd know that you already have to give your license number when you report it, so they already have a good idea of how many licensed hunters are participating. They know how many licenses are sold each year. I guess the only part they don't know is how many lifetime license holders are dead or gave up hunting.
Lastly, it's not interfering with a RIGHT. It's a minor inconvenience at most. It's not stopping you from hunting or killing deer. The state is responsible for maintaining our game populations. We can argue all day long about whether they are doing it correctly or not but to deny them access to data that would make the job more accurate is downright foolish. You will not find a more staunch supporter of smaller government than me, but I don't see this being a huge nuisance. It's important data that most states require their licensed hunters to collect for their own benefit. Is there a way to report if you don't have a license?
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Re: Radical idea for Game Check
[Re: Remington270]
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09/02/15 01:31 PM
09/02/15 01:31 PM
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Here's the problem (over simplified example)... Say I kill a deer on my 20 acres, literally I walk out of my yard and to my stand. I kill a buck there, there's NO chance of anybody else knowing. If I'm not an honest guy, or if I just ain't very conscious of the reporting system, nobody ever knows about that deer. And I feel like there are TONS of deer killed like that each season.
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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Re: Radical idea for Game Check
[Re: Remington270]
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09/02/15 01:34 PM
09/02/15 01:34 PM
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What I know is this: My dad didn't hunt, really no older guys in my family did. We had some family land and I bought a gun and was able to hunt the land.
If it was any more complicated than that, I probably wouldn't have started. I really think it's another threat to the future of hunting, although I'm sure y'all think that's crazy, it probably would have stopped me from trying.
Last edited by Remington270; 09/02/15 01:34 PM.
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Re: Radical idea for Game Check
[Re: centralala]
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09/02/15 01:41 PM
09/02/15 01:41 PM
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Is there a way to report if you don't have a license?
Yes. You need to call and request a HELP number. I think that's what they called it. I think it stood for Hunters Exempt from License Privilege. They basically assign you a number just to use for reporting your harvest. It should be free.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: Radical idea for Game Check
[Re: Remington270]
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09/02/15 04:15 PM
09/02/15 04:15 PM
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Why there is controversy involving a voluntary harvest reporting request doesn't really register for me. If you want to report the kill then report it. If not then ignore it.
"Arguing on the internet is like playing chess with a pigeon. You may be good at chess, but the pigeon is just going to knock all the pieces down, take a crap on the table, and strut around like its victorious."--Anonymous
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