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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn
[Re: shootnmiss]
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08/31/15 08:13 AM
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as far as corn is concerned, its LEGAL to plant corn, cut it down and hunt over it, place a feeder or a pile that weighs a ton in the woods and hunt 101 yards away and out of sight, and thats legal, so its hard to argue the merits of corn being bad for them, or wrong to shoot them over. Now I prefer a foodplot, cause its better, long term for the deer, doesnt attract as many predators, and in some ways is cheaper and healthier. But I dont own a tractor or 4 wheeler or alot of land or much of anything. So why is it so terrible for me to spice up a spot, that I might want to hunt. Sometimes peo0ple need to remember everyone aint as fortunate as yourselves, and dont have the same options. Sometimes a mans gotta do what he gotta do. Totally agree!! Good greif. Now folks are arguing that baiting should be legalized to equalize people's fortunes. I never thought I'd hear that one.
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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn
[Re: Rebelman]
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08/31/15 08:17 AM
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straycat
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I'm done with the discussion. I'm against hunting over bait. I hope it is never legalized. For love of the game.
Speaking of games, it is football season. If yall want to argue head to the sports forum. There is plenty to go around. Corn Huskers gonna win it all. 
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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn
[Re: straycat]
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08/31/15 08:43 AM
08/31/15 08:43 AM
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Guntersville, AL
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I don't care how a man kills a deer as long as it's legal. That being said:
-Don't tell me shooting a deer in a high fence is "Hunting" or "Fair Chase". It's just killing and that is fine, it is legal.
-Don't tell me that corn is no different than a green field. (It is no matter how hard you try to make them equal)
Have a good season
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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn
[Re: Rebelman]
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08/31/15 08:50 AM
08/31/15 08:50 AM
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Its like that old saying about duck hunting corn impoundments:
A rich man plants corn and a poor man pours corn.
A rich man brings water to corn and a poor man brings corn to water.
One is legal & the other isn't
One is bait and the other isn't.
Aren't your intentions the same, to shoot a duck over it?
If we are really concerned about the good of the resource, why the double standard? Why should "effort" - money, land, & equipment - have any bearing what so ever?
Some say its because the big landowners that influence the politicans the most don't want every Tom, Dick, & Harry taking "their ducks" at every little pothole and beaver pond on the way to their impoundment.
Is the co-op Big Buck Blend Plot Mix really that different than the Big Buck Corn they sell beside it?
Aren't your intentions the same either way, to shoot a deer over it?
Does the corn not benefit other wildlife as well? Lots of animals like corn!
I think all you Jackie Bushmans and Michael Waddels simply aren't being truthful with yourselves.
Do you really consider yourself hunting sitting on a green field?
That's funny.
You're just sitting for deer.
And there ain't nuthin' wrong with that as long as you are following the limits and HAVING FUN! Its just a deer! Never forget that!!
And the beautiful thing is - we get to choose our "hunt".
I can put my climbing stand on my back and bow in hand and hike through the woods to find that perfect hot acorn tree - A REAL HUNT
- or -
I can take it easy, sip a cold beer in a shooting house and watch a field or a cornpile. - SITTING FOR A DEER
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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn
[Re: ikillbux]
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08/31/15 09:07 AM
08/31/15 09:07 AM
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They are the SAME thing, accomplish the SAME thing. If you order a steak at a restaurant and they bring you a can of Vienna sausages, is that the same thing? Yes. Both are FOOD, both exist for the purpose of human consumption and nourishment. Albeit wiener-shaped bologna isn't very nourishing!  A majority vote does not establish truth, it simply creates legalities. The proper way to frame this argument would be to say that the USDA has declared hamburger meat legal to eat, but baked beans are illegal to eat. Now, we all know that baked beans can be eaten just as well as hamburger meat, except one just isn't legal to consume. There's no friggin logic to the illegality of beans, just as there's no friggin logic to the illegality of hunting over corn. We are NOT debating the legality of food plots vs corn, we ARE saying they are the exact same thing for the same purpose. They are both food for deer, used for the purpose of bringing the deer to a desired spot. A kernel of corn, an acorn, a blade of grass, a granule of salt/mineral, are all FOOD for deer. And they are all used by hunters to know precisely where the deer will come to. I cannot believe someone actually disagrees with this...are we actually debating this?? Now corn or other fabricated attractants (like Acorn Rage) might pose some sort of threat (like mold) to deer health, that can be debated I suppose. But the intent of this whole thread was about the sportsmanship of someone hunting over corn. As if someone hunting over a food plot had some moral high ground over the guy hunting over corn. I think the man is saying that a deer will walk around a plot of grass to get to a corn pile. They prefer the corn to the grass. Therefore the corn is a more powerful attractant than the grass. Both are bait but not equal.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn
[Re: BC]
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08/31/15 09:13 AM
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They are the SAME thing, accomplish the SAME thing. If you order a steak at a restaurant and they bring you a can of Vienna sausages, is that the same thing? Yes. Both are FOOD, both exist for the purpose of human consumption and nourishment. Albeit wiener-shaped bologna isn't very nourishing! A majority vote does not establish truth, it simply creates legalities. The proper way to frame this argument would be to say that the USDA has declared hamburger meat legal to eat, but baked beans are illegal to eat. Now, we all know that baked beans can be eaten just as well as hamburger meat, except one just isn't legal to consume. There's no friggin logic to the illegality of beans, just as there's no friggin logic to the illegality of hunting over corn. We are NOT debating the legality of food plots vs corn, we ARE saying they are the exact same thing for the same purpose. They are both food for deer, used for the purpose of bringing the deer to a desired spot. A kernel of corn, an acorn, a blade of grass, a granule of salt/mineral, are all FOOD for deer. And they are all used by hunters to know precisely where the deer will come to. I cannot believe someone actually disagrees with this...are we actually debating this?? Now corn or other fabricated attractants (like Acorn Rage) might pose some sort of threat (like mold) to deer health, that can be debated I suppose. But the intent of this whole thread was about the sportsmanship of someone hunting over corn. As if someone hunting over a food plot had some moral high ground over the guy hunting over corn. I think the man is saying that a deer will walk around a plot of grass to get to a corn pile. They prefer the corn to the grass. Therefore the corn is a more powerful attractant than the grass. Both are bait but not equal. Hell I put out stuff that'll make a deer walk over corn lol..I've seen just the opposite. I've watched deer nibble on corn then hit the greenfields.. 
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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn
[Re: Rebelman]
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08/31/15 09:17 AM
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I'm not saying I'm for it or against it. Buuuut when folks start dumping corn everywhere it does more harm than good imo..The damn deer will GO "NOCTURNAL"
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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn
[Re: James]
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08/31/15 09:20 AM
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Locust Fork, Alabama
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I don't see how they ever kill a deer in Texas. It's a mortal sin for Texas hunters to hunt without at least 8 - 10 sacks of corn within 50 yards of them.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn
[Re: walt4dun]
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09/01/15 03:22 AM
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Behind you
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Simply not true.
Deer aren't afraid of corn.
They are afraid of people.
I grew up hunting cornpiles in SC and still hunt them when I go back and they aren't *magic*. They are affected by pressure just like a green field. Period effing dot
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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn
[Re: Rebelman]
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09/01/15 03:35 AM
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coffee county
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Then why has the State differentiated the two since the inception of Regulations?
Either they dont know, dont show, or just dont care whats going on in the woods. I'm done with the discussion. I'm against hunting over bait. I hope it is never legalized.
doesn't really make me no never mind. I'll drop the tail gate and send a pack in there that'll snatch the bed sheets off one 
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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn
[Re: Rebelman]
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09/01/15 03:52 AM
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Round ‘bout there
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I love how deer "go nocturnal" whenever CORN! is used.
If that were true there would be no deer killed in a lot of states where it's legal, and in some states where it's illegal.
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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn
[Re: Clem]
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09/01/15 03:58 AM
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I love how deer "go nocturnal" whenever CORN! is used.
If that were true there would be no deer killed in a lot of states where it's legal, and in some states where it's illegal.
I wouldn't think they'd go nocturnal any more than over hunting a scrape, pinch point, plot or any other place. If you sit close to anything and hunt it more than 2 days in a row, you've worn yer welcome out IMO. Save a few of yer best stands for the rut and stand hop, a great way to kill em. No need for corn, a few does will do fine.
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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn
[Re: Corn Dog]
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09/01/15 04:37 AM
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I couldn't live with myself if I shot a deer eating corn. It's really not that hard. I bet you could do it
"No, I'm not a good shot, but I shoot often."
- Teddy Roosevelt
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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn
[Re: Rebelman]
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09/01/15 05:11 AM
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Anniston, AL
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Drives me nuts to hear people says "Makes deer go nocturnal". Deer are crepuscular by nature, they are naturally more nocturnal than diurnal. So you aren't making them do crap, corn is more apt to make them come out in the daytime than the reverse.
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