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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: Rebelman] #1433226
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Thats right Beer Belly, and they hunted white men from trees, I bet they would have loved climbers LOL Wouldn't it be fun to chase deer down on horseback and shoot them ? Yep those indians were very ethical. Not to mention driving buffalo over a cliff to kill them.


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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: 3toe] #1433227
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Originally Posted By: 3toe
Originally Posted By: Geeb
Could you please define the difference between "shooting" and "hunting"?
Originally Posted By: 3toe
Folks can do what they want but don't call it hunting. It's not. Call it shooting. If someone wants to shoot a deer in a corn pile and its legal, fine. But don't lump shooting something in with the sport of hunting. Two different things.


Ok, I'll play.

My definition which is not the definition of everyone, and that's fine.

Hunting: to give effort and participate in the active pursuit of a game animal with the intent to harvest said animal.

Shooting: to not participate and/or give nothing in the pursuit of a game animal, other than being the one to pull the trigger.


I think we found a shooter.

Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: Ben2] #1433252
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Originally Posted By: Ben2
Corn field, green field, bag of corn, mineral lick, acorns, it is all the same an attractant to bring the deer close enough for a shot. Congrats to the hunter on his kill!!!!!
X2


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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: Rebelman] #1433276
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I see no problem with it. But I've always hunted in Texas.

Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: 3toe] #1433278
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Originally Posted By: 3toe
Originally Posted By: Geeb
Could you please define the difference between "shooting" and "hunting"?
Originally Posted By: 3toe
Folks can do what they want but don't call it hunting. It's not. Call it shooting. If someone wants to shoot a deer in a corn pile and its legal, fine. But don't lump shooting something in with the sport of hunting. Two different things.


Ok, I'll play.

My definition which is not the definition of everyone, and that's fine.

Hunting: to give effort and participate in the active pursuit of a game animal with the intent to harvest said animal.

Shooting: to not participate and/or give nothing in the pursuit of a game animal, other than being the one to pull the trigger.


So any type of guided hunt would be "shooting"?
I am just trying to understand how people think; I am one of the if it is "legal", have at it crowd.
I have killed deer that I stumbled across while walking to a treestand, killed em' on corn piles, green fields, stalked em', dog hunts, treestands, ground blinds, natural ground blinds, even shot them sitting on a golf cart and in trucks in a state where its legal and I would call it all hunting.
I guess to me its like the turkey hunting crowd who say it isn't an ethical kill if a turkey doesn't gobble on the way in, I just don't understand it.

Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: Rebelman] #1433281
08/29/15 06:59 AM
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Quote much?


Originally Posted by Johntravis89
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: Ben2] #1433285
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Originally Posted By: Ben2
Corn field, green field, bag of corn, mineral lick, acorns, it is all the same an attractant to bring the deer close enough for a shot. Congrats to the hunter on his kill!!!!!


X2
Just because you put that stuff out doesn't mean you will see or kill deer. I spent many years hunting in Louisiana, over corn, and didn't see a thing.


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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: Ben2] #1433298
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Originally Posted By: Ben2
Corn field, green field, bag of corn, mineral lick, acorns, it is all the same an attractant to bring the deer close enough for a shot. Congrats to the hunter on his kill!!!!!

BINGO!!!!


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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: Ben2] #1433310
08/29/15 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ben2
Corn field, green field, bag of corn, mineral lick, acorns, it is all the same an attractant to bring the deer close enough for a shot. Congrats to the hunter on his kill!!!!!


Damn skippy. Some folks want to split hairs to make themselves feel better about it what they have accomplished or haven't accomplished...I do not.

It is never going to be "fair". Not when we have guns, scopes, binoculars, treestands, insulated clothing, insulated footwear, handwarmers, calls, scents, etc. I could go on and on and on. We as hunters are constantly looking for the slightest advantage or technological improvement to help us be even better hunters. All the while we hunt a creature that has what it is born with and that is all.

Are the things any animal are born with enough to give them a fighting chance against us as hunters? Of course. And then some. But it ain't "fair".

This is hunting. Which equals killing. We are the ones with opposing thumbs; not the other way around.

To get right down to it, everyone is always gonna have an opinion one way or the other. That is just life. If it is legal, I ain't got an issue with it.

I'm just glad that whoever the OP was posting about watching got excited enough to be trembling.

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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: CeeHawk37] #1433319
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Originally Posted By: CeeHawk37
It's all in the personal experience. I get what the OP is saying though. I personally get more shook up from taking a doe on public land than I have from killing bucks in MO over ag fields. Doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the hunt, it just wasn't as rewarding as when you out smart the deer and other hunters on public ground, to me. Heck my personal experience is predicated more on the individual season most times. Years I havent had the time to hunt as much as I'd like, the reward is just getting to go out in the woods, killing one is icing on the cake at that point.

Killing one in front of dogs has been one of the most exciting ways of hunting I've ever experienced, but some would say it isn't sporting. I enjoyed the heck out of it and hope that one day I can do it again. But if some have their way no one would be able to dog hunt. We as hunters need to look at the big picture and work to preserve all aspects of the sport, less we find ourselves slowly losing all hunting because the anti-hunters have one agenda and they don't differentiate the nuances of our sport.
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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: Geeb] #1433328
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Originally Posted By: Geeb
Originally Posted By: 3toe
Originally Posted By: Geeb
Could you please define the difference between "shooting" and "hunting"?
Originally Posted By: 3toe
Folks can do what they want but don't call it hunting. It's not. Call it shooting. If someone wants to shoot a deer in a corn pile and its legal, fine. But don't lump shooting something in with the sport of hunting. Two different things.


Ok, I'll play.

My definition which is not the definition of everyone, and that's fine.

Hunting: to give effort and participate in the active pursuit of a game animal with the intent to harvest said animal.

Shooting: to not participate and/or give nothing in the pursuit of a game animal, other than being the one to pull the trigger.


So any type of guided hunt would be "shooting"?


Well of course. That's the purpose of a guided hunt. The guide has done the work and the client is there to pull the trigger. Personally, I say people should do whatever is legal and makes them happy.


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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: rut_n_strut75] #1433333
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Originally Posted By: rut_n_strut75
[quote=Ben2]Corn field, green field, bag of corn, mineral lick, acorns, it is all the same an attractant to bring the deer close enough for a shot. Congrats to the hunter on his kill!!!!!


Yep..To many people worried bout what other people are doing.

Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: trox28] #1433341
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Originally Posted By: trox28
Originally Posted By: rut_n_strut75
[quote=Ben2]Corn field, green field, bag of corn, mineral lick, acorns, it is all the same an attractant to bring the deer close enough for a shot. Congrats to the hunter on his kill!!!!!


Yep..To many people worried bout what other people are doing.


Yep.

Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: Rebelman] #1433346
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Another thing to keep in mind is how different the habitat/terrain is in other parts of the country. I have seen ranches in S Tx that get so little rain you couldn't grow a green field w/ 3 years worth. I've also seen places in Kansas where there is not a tree to climb for miles. You can't hunt everywhere the way we do here, and I don't begrudge anyone enjoying the outdoor opportunities available to them and hunting legally however they want to increase their chances of getting an animal that they are proud of.

Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: Geeb] #1433357
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Originally Posted By: Geeb
Originally Posted By: 3toe
Originally Posted By: Geeb
Could you please define the difference between "shooting" and "hunting"?
Originally Posted By: 3toe
Folks can do what they want but don't call it hunting. It's not. Call it shooting. If someone wants to shoot a deer in a corn pile and its legal, fine. But don't lump shooting something in with the sport of hunting. Two different things.


Ok, I'll play.

My definition which is not the definition of everyone, and that's fine.

Hunting: to give effort and participate in the active pursuit of a game animal with the intent to harvest said animal.

Shooting: to not participate and/or give nothing in the pursuit of a game animal, other than being the one to pull the trigger.


So any type of guided hunt would be "shooting"?
I am just trying to understand how people think; I am one of the if it is "legal", have at it crowd.
I have killed deer that I stumbled across while walking to a treestand, killed em' on corn piles, green fields, stalked em', dog hunts, treestands, ground blinds, natural ground blinds, even shot them sitting on a golf cart and in trucks in a state where its legal and I would call it all hunting.
I guess to me its like the turkey hunting crowd who say it isn't an ethical kill if a turkey doesn't gobble on the way in, I just don't understand it.


I'm afraid we in the hunting community can be pretty quick to judge. Got bow hunterfriends who make fun of gun hunters, treestand hunters make fun of baiters etc etc. I don't put a lot of restrictions on folks. If it makes you happy and its legal do it. I guess purest form of hunting would be to go to a wilderness area, find the sign and then hunt him on your 2 feet with a bow you had made. There's a few who do it. Thank god we don't have to do that all the time. Them TV hunters is another business altogether. I've about tuned them out unless they're elk hunting. I'm still intrigued by that because I've only been once and my hunt lasted 15 seconds. Got drawn for a cow tag in Kentucky a few years ago.


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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: Clem] #1433368
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What's the difference between a corn pile and a green field except a green field requires more work. Deer hit a green field with more predictable regularity than they do a bait plie or a feeder

Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: Rebelman] #1433370
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I guess I have to confess. I'm only a hunter sometimes. Other times I'm just shooting. In Alabama I "hunt". In Kansas I hunt some days, other days I'm just a shooter. It's not a guided hunt by any means, but I have poured out corn a few times. I've shot a buck or two over it when a hot doe brought them to me. I've also killed my biggest two out there hunting trails between bedding areas, but sometimes that just doesn't work, so I throw "hunting" out the window and just go "shooting".

Now, it's been a long time since I killed a deer with a gun, but that doesn't make me look down on gun hunters one bit. Not sure why someone doing something allowed by law would make them less of a sportsman than another guy.

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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: Rebelman] #1433380
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I think hunters should be limited to 1 bag of corn per day! Anyone caught with anything over 1 bag should be charged with "Contributing to the Obesity of Wildlife"!
We've got to draw the line somewhere!


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Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: Rebelman] #1433384
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Fat deer offend me.

Re: Killing Deer Over Corn [Re: Rebelman] #1433410
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The only fair & ethical way to hunt is to run through the woods naked like a deer & duke it out hand to hoof. Take one using that method & you can say you've accomplished something. Everything else is unethical & cheating. I prefer sitting in a shooting house watching my killing field staying warm by my buddy heater listening to F'baum on the radio. You guys have been watching too much of that bone collecter bs on tv.


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