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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: walt4dun]
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08/26/15 09:03 AM
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WTF? Am I correct here? Are "state owned" lands that my tax dollars bought being leased out to private parties? States been doing this for loooooong time..
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: augustus_65]
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The land for lease is not Forever Wild land. The state owns lots of land that is not a part of a State Park, WMA or Forever Wild. It sounds like he understands that. The state shouldn't be in the private lease business. There's not much the gov does better than private sector.
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: Remington270]
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08/27/15 03:12 PM
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The land for lease is not Forever Wild land. The state owns lots of land that is not a part of a State Park, WMA or Forever Wild. It sounds like he understands that. The state shouldn't be in the private lease business. There's not much the gov does better than private sector. I wanta start my FedEx rant every time I read something like this. But my wife ordered something last week and a new FedEx guy actually delivered it to my house. They still have miles to go to match the record of USPS in my personal experience
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: crenshawco]
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They sure own a pile of land up in walker county. There's not much to choose from down this way There is a lot of coal in walker co, and the state gets a percentage when it's stripped. Plus most of the land they own up this way is landlocked, so it doesn't ever get leased.
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: Bowfool]
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08/28/15 02:37 AM
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A few pieces are within the lease I joined this year. They are totally landlocked and a access key to them costs 700$ according to our pres. At the rate they want per ac you'd pay more for the key than the lease. But our pres didn't know they were coming up for lease, once I talked to him about it he got fired up, so looks like we will be bidding on them.
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: Bowfool]
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08/28/15 08:23 AM
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Some minimum bids are $19/acre
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Enough Said....
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: Strutter]
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09/02/15 05:20 AM
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So how does it work if you lease a property that is landlocked and the owner of the access property says you can't access the property from his land? You'll have a piece of land that u can't hunt..
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: Strutter]
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09/02/15 05:23 AM
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So how does it work if you lease a property that is landlocked and the owner of the access property says you can't access the property from his land? From my understanding, Unless the state has an easement to the property or unless there is an agreement in the lease paperwork of the access land you got no way to access the state lands short of a helicopter or catapult... I could be incorrect, but this is how it was explained to me
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: Bustinbeards]
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09/02/15 05:54 AM
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So how does it work if you lease a property that is landlocked and the owner of the access property says you can't access the property from his land? From my understanding, Unless the state has an easement to the property or unless there is an agreement in the lease paperwork of the access land you got no way to access the state lands short of a helicopter or catapult... I could be incorrect, but this is how it was explained to me This is correct - you will not have access. Lots of tracts on that list would have to be leased by a neighbor. So why put a minimum bid? The neighbors are already hunting a lot of them. If you could get $1 acre from a neighbor with access, why not? Some are hunting it anyway.
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: Bustinbeards]
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09/02/15 07:10 AM
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So how does it work if you lease a property that is landlocked and the owner of the access property says you can't access the property from his land? From my understanding, Unless the state has an easement to the property or unless there is an agreement in the lease paperwork of the access land you got no way to access the state lands short of a helicopter or catapult... I could be incorrect, but this is how it was explained to me This is true. I looked at some parcels a few years ago and there was literally no access to get into them. Adjoining landowners lease them because they have easy access to the properties where the average guy cant get permission to get into them, or if can he has to be half billy goat and olympic athlete to get back in there. None of the ones we looked at had any type of road access. If ya killed something it was drag it all the way out. The state also requires a list of names and SS#'s for whoever will be on the property. Few of the guys I was looking with didnt like that part of it either. If they wanted to bring friend X who just showed up one weekend for a unplanned hunt to be legal with the state they had to be on the list beforehand or as the state put it "they wouldnt be on the land legally".
Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: walt4dun]
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09/02/15 09:05 AM
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Hey, I got an idea on how Alabama can shore up its deficit.
How about get out of the land business and sell this land back to the private sector to raise some cash?
Crap on raising my taxes. So what? They can operate in the red and buy hunting land to rent to a private party? Nope. I'll vote to shut down Forever Wild next time.
Did you even look at the listing of tracts? It was a whole bunch of 20-40 acre tracts. There is any number of ways the state could've acquired this land. Seizure due to failure to pay property taxes comes to mind. Secondly, the number of tracts in Walker and Winston county is astounding. It has to do with coal. My guess is that the state is the only one who would buy property that had been strip mined. I don't think your speculation that the state is "buying hunting property" is accurate. Lastly, these have nothing to do with Forever Wild. You can hunt most of those now for free because they belong to all of us. Please think before posting disparaging remarks about a good program. Some idiot will come along, read your remarks, accept it as true, then tell his buddies. This has nothing to do with Forever Wild property.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: walt4dun]
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09/02/15 01:32 PM
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I was corrected on that two posts later.
I still don't see why those tracts aren't put up for sale? There is always someone that will buy an asset at some price.
Lighten up Francis. Walt I understand your feelings about the State owning land I look at it like this. If they sell a Capitol asset to plug a funding leak, the next year the budget shortfall will STILL be there, but now the asset is gone. The land around the State Prison above Atmore is a prime example. YEARS ago (when most of us were in diapers) this land fed a majority of the prisoners (State and County) in this state (or so I've been told). Can't work them anymore, sooooooo........ For a bunch of years it served as a half assed cattle operation. They considered selling it several years ago. It would likely have brought $2k an acre I suspect, and that only for the farmable or pasture ground. A fair amount of it is gullies, creeks, etc. and basically useless. Then inspiration hit. They leased it out for farming (did Draper N of Mtgy the same way). NOW, the State DOC receives anywhere from $65 to $135 an acre for farming rights (on the farmable portion of course) AND they STILL OWN THE ASSET. In 10-15 years they will get as much in rent as they'd have gotten for selling it, and they still own it, and it can still produce revenue. Had they sold it, that money would have disappeared like a popcorn fart in a hurricane. The OTHER SIDE to this is EVERY ACRE that gets farmed supports businesses in Atmore and the surrounding areas. Seed, chemical and fertilizer dealers benefit. Dealers sell equipment. Fuel, parts, and labor come from the local economy. If they'd sold it, maybe some of this happens, maybe not. Word was the Indians would have bought most of it for cattle (which wouldn't have NEARLY the same affect on the local economy, not 5% of it). In my opinion, this was a win-win.
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: Bowfool]
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09/03/15 03:31 AM
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I got mine in the mail a few weeks ago..there are a few tracts that spark my interest. So how do I get on the mailing list so next year I get this?
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: Bowfool]
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09/18/15 06:07 AM
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Well today is the day! We bid and won On both the properties that are bordering our lease. So for about 500$ we picked up a little over 100ac of 70+y/o mixed hardwood and pines Thanks for the heads up in this opportunity, turned out great for us!
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: Rocket62]
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I got mine in the mail a few weeks ago..there are a few tracts that spark my interest. So how do I get on the mailing list so next year I get this? X2 How can you get set up to receive an email notification about it next year.
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: Cletus]
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I got mine in the mail a few weeks ago..there are a few tracts that spark my interest. So how do I get on the mailing list so next year I get this? X2 How can you get set up to receive an email notification about it next year. Everything leased yesterday is on 5 yr leases now so shouldn't be another one for 5 years.
Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: Bowfool]
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TTT.....does anyone know how to find out if a certain lease got leased? Also, would the ones that didn't get leased go back on the market next year?
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: MTeague]
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I was at the auction and I would say about half of the state land did not get leased (a lot never does). You would probably have to call the state lands division (talk with Jay Caruthers) to see if a particular tract got leased. You can still lease a tract from them now assuming you meet the minimum price (varies by tract). They are leased on 5 year terms now, this will be the first year of the term. If a tract is not leased it is open to the public being that it is owned by the state.
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
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If a tract is not leased it is open to the public being that it is owned by the state. And therefore open for hunting as per DCNR regulations?
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: Clem]
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That is my understanding,
"Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago." - Warren Buffett
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
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If a tract is not leased it is open to the public being that it is owned by the state. Are you sure about that?? We leased 2 pieces that borders our hunting lease and they wanted documentation(pictures of licenses) of everyone who will access or be on the property.
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
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Re: State Hunting Land Auctions are Sept 18th. Info Here
[Re: Bustinbeards]
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If a tract is not leased it is open to the public being that it is owned by the state. Are you sure about that?? We leased 2 pieces that borders our hunting lease and they wanted documentation(pictures of licenses) of everyone who will access or be on the property. We leased land from them and they did not require any of this.
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