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Re: Auto 20 gauge???? [Re: daniel white] #1402846
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I've heard a lot of good things about the Weatherby SA-08. It's the one I would buy on a low budget.

Re: Auto 20 gauge???? [Re: JUGHEAD] #1403439
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Originally Posted By: JUGHEAD
Originally Posted By: daniel white
Thanks.. Thats what I was looking for.. Price tag don't make a gun, if so the 870 and Moss. 500 down been gone..
I would humbly suggest and caution that if you decide to buy a Turkish auto, that you buy the Weatherby. To my knowledge, Weatherby is the only company that is importing parts for those guns (they're all made in the same factory in Turkey off of a Beretta gas design) and standing behind them warranty wise 100%. I wouldn't trust Mossberg International, Tristar, or any of the others to do the same. I know for a fact that Mossberg International will just tell you tough chit if their Turkish auto tears up. That, to me, is totally unacceptable if repair is required.


I will have to say after turkey hunting with a Stoeger for 11 years I disagree slightly. That Stoeger never failed to fire any load and I'm rough as heck on my equipment. If they made a youth 20 it would be a no brainer for me. The young man I sold it to 3 yrs ago is killing birds of all kind with it to this day. You could find me a sweet Italian 20 cheap and return the favor on that half priced Extrema I turned you on to a couple of years ago. laugh


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Re: Auto 20 gauge???? [Re: ridgestalker] #1403468
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Originally Posted By: ridgestalker
I will have to say after turkey hunting with a Stoeger for 11 years I disagree slightly. That Stoeger never failed to fire any load and I'm rough as heck on my equipment. If they made a youth 20 it would be a no brainer for me. The young man I sold it to 3 yrs ago is killing birds of all kind with it to this day. You could find me a sweet Italian 20 cheap and return the favor on that half priced Extrema I turned you on to a couple of years ago. laugh
When I caution against the Turkish autos, I am generally speaking about the gas ones made off of the Beretta 390 gas design. I.E. the CZ, Weatherby, Tristar, and Mossberg (there might be others...not sure). The design is fantastic, but they simply have lesser quality materials vs. an Italian gun. Hence, I wouldn't be a bit scared to have one as long as the particular company importing it was standing behind it and had parts ready to fix it if something happened (given the lesser strength materials used). I know that Weatherby does so with their SA series. I also really like how they give you a pair of different gas pistons...one for light loads and one for heavy loads. Another really neat feature.

I totally agree with you on the Stoegers made in Turkey. It's a different animal as it is an inertia driven, Benelli design. Definitely cheaper materials than Franchis and Benellis but a fine shotgun nonetheless. They seem to stand behind them after import into the U.S. too. For the record, they do make a 20 gauge in the Stoeger. I think the number is M3020. I'm not sure if they make it in a youth gun though. Would be sweet if they did!

I would be honored to help you find a great deal on a Beretta 20 in a youth config. I love spending other people's money. One of my favorite past times. laugh

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Re: Auto 20 gauge???? [Re: daniel white] #1403469
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The cheap guns will run fine for 99% of shooters. Most folks won't shoot enough in a lifetime to really see the difference between a cheap Turkish gun and the Italian Inertia operated auto.

"HOWEVER"

If you go to Argentina to a lodge that provided dove guns where thousands of rounds are fired every single day of hunting, all they own are Benelli auto's and a few Beretta's. They don't use any other seim guns because they simply break down too often. They shoot so much that they have two guns in the field and a guy that doesn't do anything but load the guns. The shooter might fire thousands of rounds in a single weekend. These Italian guns will take that kind of shooting for years.


So, for most folks a cheaper gun will serve them just fine, but they are not built to the same level of excellence but just for a cheaper price because of the name.

Re: Auto 20 gauge???? [Re: daniel white] #1403544
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Re: Auto 20 gauge???? [Re: daniel white] #1403558
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I bought my wife the weatherby sa-08 20 and she likes it.
I also have a 11-87 20 compact that is pretty sweet.
My vote I guess would be a franchi affinity 20, my 15 yr old has one in black.

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Originally Posted By: globe
I bought my wife the weatherby sa-08 20 and she likes it.
I also have a 11-87 20 compact that is pretty sweet.
My vote I guess would be a franchi affinity 20, my 15 yr old has one in black.


The Franchi Affinity is a unique bargain. It's made on the same assembly line as the Benelli M2's from the same quality parts. The difference being the location of the recoil spring, the stock, and the price.

The Weatherby and Remington are also good guns. The question becomes,do you need the extra longevity of the Italian assembly in a gun that might not be fired even 3000 rounds in it's life.

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Re: Auto 20 gauge???? [Re: R_H_Clark] #1403614
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Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
The Franchi Affinity is a unique bargain. It's made on the same assembly line as the Benelli M2's from the same quality parts. The difference being the location of the recoil spring, the stock, and the price.
It is the best deal going on new/recently produced shotguns. No doubt about it. We owned one (compact) for a good while that my son killed a bunch of doves with. I eventually made him choose between it and a 26" barreled Beretta 303 that I procured at a good deal. He eventually reached the same conclusion that I did with inertia guns....they have noticeably more kick vs. a good gas gun and aren't as conducive to getting back on target after firing and also that they are SO lightweight that they are whippy when swinging them (granted our was a 24" barreled version though which adds to that dynamic) vs. the smoother swing of the heavier Beretta. If I had to choose one shotgun to do everything I do with shotguns, it would be Benelli or Franchi hands down because extra weight is OUT for me tromping through the mountains turkey hunting. However, I just can't use a gun with a regular stock while turkey hunting. I've got to have a pistol grip because my right wrist has been broken and keeping it at a weird angle while waiting on a turkey to arrive kills me. Hence, I keep a dedicated pump gun for turkey hunting and a Beretta for most of my wing shooting. It all just depends upon what the person prefers/needs. You can't go wrong with an Italian made Beretta/Benelli/Franchi though. I love em and won't ever own anything else after owning Brownings, Stoegers, Remingtons, and Mossberg autos at one time as well.

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Re: Auto 20 gauge???? [Re: daniel white] #1403709
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Originally Posted By: daniel white
Ok, I'm looking of one of the wife. Looking at a 1100, or affinity. any other choices I need to look at

Wouldn't the wise thing to do be to take her to some gun stores and find what fits her? Being it's her gun. The reason I say this is because I brought home 3 different guns for my wife,before I finally had her go with me and let her do the choosing. Once she handled the SX3 20ga she didn't even want to look anymore. Glad she picked it myself. She's going to enjoy a gun that fits her and costs $300 a heckuva lot more than a $1500 one that don't. Me personally I'd go with a gas gun for her


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Originally Posted By: Luvbowhuntn
Originally Posted By: daniel white
Ok, I'm looking of one of the wife. Looking at a 1100, or affinity. any other choices I need to look at

Wouldn't the wise thing to do be to take her to some gun stores and find what fits her? Being it's her gun. The reason I say this is because I brought home 3 different guns for my wife,before I finally had her go with me and let her do the choosing. Once she handled the SX3 20ga she didn't even want to look anymore. Glad she picked it myself. She's going to enjoy a gun that fits her and costs $300 a heckuva lot more than a $1500 one that don't. Me personally I'd go with a gas gun for her


She has handles a 1100 and a affinity.. Both, she shoots a 870 now.. But I completely agree with ya


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Originally Posted By: daniel white

Originally Posted By: Luvbowhuntn
Originally Posted By: daniel white
Ok, I'm looking of one of the wife. Looking at a 1100, or affinity. any other choices I need to look at

Wouldn't the wise thing to do be to take her to some gun stores and find what fits her? Being it's her gun. The reason I say this is because I brought home 3 different guns for my wife,before I finally had her go with me and let her do the choosing. Once she handled the SX3 20ga she didn't even want to look anymore. Glad she picked it myself. She's going to enjoy a gun that fits her and costs $300 a heckuva lot more than a $1500 one that don't. Me personally I'd go with a gas gun for her


She has handles a 1100 and a affinity.. Both, she shoots a 870 now.. But I completely agree with ya
If it's for a woman, you can be guaranteed, she will change her mind about which one she wants shortly after you buy and give her the one she chose!! laugh


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Re: Auto 20 gauge???? [Re: daniel white] #1403915
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Originally Posted By: daniel white

Originally Posted By: Luvbowhuntn
Originally Posted By: daniel white
Ok, I'm looking of one of the wife. Looking at a 1100, or affinity. any other choices I need to look at

Wouldn't the wise thing to do be to take her to some gun stores and find what fits her? Being it's her gun. The reason I say this is because I brought home 3 different guns for my wife,before I finally had her go with me and let her do the choosing. Once she handled the SX3 20ga she didn't even want to look anymore. Glad she picked it myself. She's going to enjoy a gun that fits her and costs $300 a heckuva lot more than a $1500 one that don't. Me personally I'd go with a gas gun for her


She has handles a 1100 and a affinity.. Both, she shoots a 870 now.. But I completely agree with ya


Did she try the Infinity compact? It has a short stock and comes with 4 spacers to adjust LOP. it also has shims to adjust cast and drop at heel.

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DW,
I went through this same process last year. My wife ended up buying me an Affinity for Christmas. I just got through shooting 6 boxes of shells through it on a couple dove hunts. It handled great. I killed some turkeys this Spring with it also. That being said, you can buy the camo Stoeger for around $500. It's a fine handling gun. My cousin just bought a browning silver. I think it'd be more your style. It's got a classic look to it. All that being said, the Affinity comes in a youth model that may fit her better, and is tried and true from a lot of members on Aldeer. If price and value matter, I don't think you can beat the Stoeger.

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DW look at the affinity compact. You are more than welcome to come get mine and let her try it out.


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I wound up cutting the stock off my Franchi Al-48 and putting a Sims pad on the back.. Crazy I know, but that what I done


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