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Re: Poor Lion.
[Re: jawbone]
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07/28/15 06:11 PM
07/28/15 06:11 PM
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BhamFred
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Dentists real prob is going to be USFWS prosecuting him under Lacy Act for illegally killing the lion and for hunting on illegal lands. It is probably best that he not return to Zimbabwe anytime soon also. Ever see the 60's movie "The Naked Prey" with Cornel Wilde? my PH in Zim told me a stay at a Zim jail was a death sentence.....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Poor Lion.
[Re: MANGLER]
#1402362
07/28/15 06:33 PM
07/28/15 06:33 PM
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BhamFred
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legal to bait em and shoot em at night. The permit/quota part is going to be bad....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Poor Lion.
[Re: MANGLER]
#1402456
07/29/15 02:48 AM
07/29/15 02:48 AM
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Posts: 24,827 Buc-ee’s Beach Express
leroycnbucks
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I'm sitting in the hotel lobby this morning eating breakfast and they have the tv on ABC morning show. Unbelievable ! These bunch of liberal jackasses are reporting on this like a human was murdered. You think they showed this much outrage over plan parenthood doctors bragging about how many abortions they done that day and what the going rate is for a babies arm and liver! Hell no!
Proud Army and ALNG veteran God Bless America!
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Re: Poor Lion.
[Re: jawbone]
#1402476
07/29/15 03:12 AM
07/29/15 03:12 AM
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Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 14,831 If you only knew.....
Tru-Talker
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a previous conviction in Wisconsin for a hunting violation that yielded a $1000 fine from what I remember. It was a little worse than that... Try a felony... Felon Dentist....
Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves...
Confucius
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Re: Poor Lion.
[Re: Tru-Talker]
#1402479
07/29/15 03:17 AM
07/29/15 03:17 AM
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Posts: 25,723 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
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a previous conviction in Wisconsin for a hunting violation that yielded a $1000 fine from what I remember. It was a little worse than that... Try a felony... Felon Dentist.... Thanks, I didn't recall reading it was a felony but that would fit with the $1000 fine.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Poor Lion.
[Re: MANGLER]
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07/29/15 04:02 AM
07/29/15 04:02 AM
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Posts: 1,595 Odenville, AL
Flyway
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Learn a lesson from his mistake, anytime you pay for somebody to take you hunting in a place you're unfamiliar with you better do your homework. The "ignorance" card only gets you so far. And ask questions when something doesn't seem legit. When they tied a dead animal drag to the back of the truck to lure him to a different place to kill him I'd have started asking questions. And he very well could have asked those questions, I'm not saying he didn't. I could have just been the day all his bad luck chips got cashed in at once.
Trying to destroy the gps collar is another dead giveaway that you're screwed.
It'd be nice if there was this much public outrage over ISIS beheading people and Planned Parenthood sorting through aborted fetuses to harvest organs to sell.
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! - Patrick Henry
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Re: Poor Lion.
[Re: MANGLER]
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07/29/15 04:05 AM
07/29/15 04:05 AM
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Posts: 44,211 North Alabama
Wiley Coyote
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I wonder how many veterans or active duty servicemen have died during the time this has dominated the news.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
NRA Life Member
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Re: Poor Lion.
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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07/29/15 04:10 AM
07/29/15 04:10 AM
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Posts: 36,148 alabama
BhamFred
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I wonder how many veterans or active duty servicemen have died during the time this has dominated the news. too damn many Wiley...
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Poor Lion.
[Re: Flyway]
#1402531
07/29/15 04:17 AM
07/29/15 04:17 AM
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Posts: 36,148 alabama
BhamFred
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Learn a lesson from his mistake, anytime you pay for somebody to take you hunting in a place you're unfamiliar with you better do your homework. The "ignorance" card only gets you so far. And ask questions when something doesn't seem legit. When they tied a dead animal drag to the back of the truck to lure him to a different place to kill him I'd have started asking questions. And he very well could have asked those questions, I'm not saying he didn't. I could have just been the day all his bad luck chips got cashed in at once.
Trying to destroy the gps collar is another dead giveaway that you're screwed.
It'd be nice if there was this much public outrage over ISIS beheading people and Planned Parenthood sorting through aborted fetuses to harvest organs to sell. I'm going to assume that you have never been to Africa hunting. You are completely at the mercy of the Outfitter and PH to ensure that all is legal. And every country is different. Landlines are usually NOT marked, no way to know if you are one legal land or in a park, or on someone else. Dragging dead game to lay a scent trail is normal practice when hunting lion or leopard. an personally ,given his history, I doubt that he asked any questions and knew full well the hunt was illegal. He is in a world of deep chitt with the USFW boys, prolly facing multiple Lacy Act violations here in US. I really doubt he will actually face any charges IN Zimbabwe. I sure as hell wouldn't go back on my own to face charges there. anybody with ANY common sense would not of shot THAT lion, even if it was legal, on quota, legal land, et all. Dumbass greedy move and it will cost him, the PH, the landowner, and all of us that hunt anywhere. The antis will use this to further their anti-hunting agenda, esp lion hunting.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Poor Lion.
[Re: MANGLER]
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07/29/15 04:21 AM
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Posts: 12,244 Oxford, AL. USA
Big Game Hunter
Doesn’t Know His Code
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Doesn’t Know His Code
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Posts: 12,244
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First: I don't believe a single word of anything written in the "news" about hunting. It is ALWAYS slanted against hunters and hunting. Second: I don't believe a single word of anything written in the "news" about hunting. It is ALWAYS slanted against hunters and hunting. Third:
IKNOWMYPHUCKINGCODEDAMMITYOUDICKHEAD!!!
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Re: Poor Lion.
[Re: MANGLER]
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07/29/15 04:24 AM
07/29/15 04:24 AM
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Posts: 36,148 alabama
BhamFred
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antis having a field day with this BGH......
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Poor Lion.
[Re: BhamFred]
#1402597
07/29/15 05:39 AM
07/29/15 05:39 AM
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Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,595 Odenville, AL
Flyway
8 point
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8 point
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Learn a lesson from his mistake, anytime you pay for somebody to take you hunting in a place you're unfamiliar with you better do your homework. The "ignorance" card only gets you so far. And ask questions when something doesn't seem legit. When they tied a dead animal drag to the back of the truck to lure him to a different place to kill him I'd have started asking questions. And he very well could have asked those questions, I'm not saying he didn't. I could have just been the day all his bad luck chips got cashed in at once.
Trying to destroy the gps collar is another dead giveaway that you're screwed.
It'd be nice if there was this much public outrage over ISIS beheading people and Planned Parenthood sorting through aborted fetuses to harvest organs to sell. I'm going to assume that you have never been to Africa hunting. You are completely at the mercy of the Outfitter and PH to ensure that all is legal. And every country is different. Landlines are usually NOT marked, no way to know if you are one legal land or in a park, or on someone else. Dragging dead game to lay a scent trail is normal practice when hunting lion or leopard. an personally ,given his history, I doubt that he asked any questions and knew full well the hunt was illegal. He is in a world of deep chitt with the USFW boys, prolly facing multiple Lacy Act violations here in US. I really doubt he will actually face any charges IN Zimbabwe. I sure as hell wouldn't go back on my own to face charges there. anybody with ANY common sense would not of shot THAT lion, even if it was legal, on quota, legal land, et all. Dumbass greedy move and it will cost him, the PH, the landowner, and all of us that hunt anywhere. The antis will use this to further their anti-hunting agenda, esp lion hunting. No, I've never been hunting in Africa. And the fact that you're completely at the mercy of the outfitter and PH is why I'd be as educated as possible before I go (however much or little that might be) and ask more questions when I got there. The piece I read mentioned that they used the drag to lure him off of the park so that they could kill him. He may or may not have known where they were luring him from. But like you, it all sounds sketchy at best. Have you ever hunted in Africa? If so, how did/would you make sure that you didn't get involved in a similar situation? He probably thought that by dropping $50k he was with a reputable outfitter.
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! - Patrick Henry
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Re: Poor Lion.
[Re: toothdoc]
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07/29/15 05:52 AM
07/29/15 05:52 AM
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BhamFred
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I've never understood the desire to shoot a lion. I'm not at all opposed to somebody else doing it. To each his own.
When I went on a jeep Safari in Kenya, you could pretty much drive right up to them. You can drive right up to deer at Guntersville State Park too, do you hunt deer????
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Poor Lion.
[Re: MANGLER]
#1402607
07/29/15 05:56 AM
07/29/15 05:56 AM
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Posts: 36,148 alabama
BhamFred
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Flyway, yes I have hunted Africa, in fact in Zimbabwe. I went with an outfit that came highly recommended by others that had been with them. You do your homework by checking past performance, both in ethics and in game taken.
Bronkhurst, the PH, has been involved on the edge of stuff in the past. And the land they hunted is listed as seized land, something you can check on.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Poor Lion.
[Re: BhamFred]
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07/29/15 06:00 AM
07/29/15 06:00 AM
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toothdoc
14 point
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Posts: 9,519
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I've never understood the desire to shoot a lion. I'm not at all opposed to somebody else doing it. To each his own.
When I went on a jeep Safari in Kenya, you could pretty much drive right up to them. You can drive right up to deer at Guntersville State Park too, do you hunt deer???? They will walk right up to you in Liberty Park too. My understanding is that if you know the right people you can hunt there. It's even been rumored you can pay to hunt the surrounding areas.
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