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How far do deer travel regularly? #1401376
07/27/15 04:45 PM
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I posted in the "Showing your hand on small acreage" thread about some bucks who were seen and/or killed anywhere from 1.5 to 4.4 miles away. These are deer that as best as I know nobody was hunting except for me. Or at least that is until they got that far away from my place. What examples do you have of deer traveling in such a large circle?


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Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: ikillbux] #1401402
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I've got camera proof of a summer bachelor group covering over 1 mile to and from a crop field in an hour.

I've observed bucks over 1 mile from where I saw them a few hours prior.

I routinely have bucks on camera that get killed 2-4 miles away.

GPS data has shown bucks will go on excursions of over 10 miles.

Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: ikillbux] #1401408
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Matt Brock, when a buck gets some age on him how far does his core range shrink over time, if any?

Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: ikillbux] #1401409
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That's enlightening, it really answers a lot of questions for me.


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Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: ikillbux] #1401414
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A friend of mine killed a serious high-end buck (160+) on almost the last day of this season on a 24,000 acre base. Multiple hunters claim to have seen this same deer at different times in other places on that property. I would estimate it to be 2-3 miles by road from where he killed it to where they saw it. Another person claims to have seen it in the area where he killed it in early bow season. If it was indeed the same deer, that would lead me to believe it was normal for that deer to be anywhere in a 4-5 mile square for no apparent reason from one day to another.


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Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: ikillbux] #1401430
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I have mature bucks (4.5+) on our place on camera the last two years covering a touch over 3 miles straight line distance.

I also had photos of a buck years ago that got killed as a 5.5 year old 6.5 miles from where he was living as 3.5 year old. We thought he had died\been poached but he had just moved to a more prime area on the property. Luckily it was a really large tract.

Their movements seem to be based on their personality. We had some deer that were dominant in their immediate area but were not really all that confrontational so they didn't have prime areas on the property nor did they roam very far. We saw other deer that were right the opposite. They were very confrontational, would travel large areas and would fight. These deer typically made it to 4.5 and died at the hands of a hunter.

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Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: ikillbux] #1401436
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A bunch of years ago, on opening week of bow season, a buddy(Roy) made a bad shot on a six pointer. The next day, I was hunting 1/4 mile from there and another buddy(Steve) was hunting about 2 miles further away. Steve shot a different 6 pointer that morning, but he hit it Waayyy far back. Steve got down and started tracking his buck and found a six pointer laying right off of the trail, assumed it was his, loaded it up and came back to camp. Meanwhile, I am watching yet another Six point with an arrow sticking out of his hip like a radio antenna. He came closer and I drilled him, tracked him to within 3 feet of my 4 wheeler. I loaded him up and off to camp. I had mine hanging and in the process of skinning him when Steve pulled up with a deer on his truck. He had a pretty puzzled look on his face, and said that's what the deer he shot at looked like. I showed him the arrow that had been in him and it matched the ones in his quiver. Roy drove up and asked Steve where he found the buck that he(Roy) had shot the day before. Steve had found Roys deer on his blood trail about 2 1/4 miles from where it had been shot. I killed the deer that Steve had shot 45 minutes earlier about 2 miles from me.

That was my first bow killed deer, and the aforementioned drilling wasn't that simple. It was only after I had my first aluminum arrow fall off my TM hunter rest and clang off my stand and the tree as it fell. The deer jumped and ran in a semi-circle and stopped 15 yds away. I gathered my nerves enough to clumsily get another arrow nocked and airborne. As I said the deer almost tried to load itself.

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Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: ikillbux] #1401466
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A few years ago in mid Dec we got an old buck on cam. He looked to be around 150. We had never gotten any pics of him before. He was there for two days then he was gone again. Two days latter and 3.5 miles latter a neighbor killed him. He scored 152". They move!


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Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: ikillbux] #1401489
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They are all individuals. It also depends on what time of year it is, Summer, most of them not far. During rut, some not far, some several miles. No one size fits all when it comes to bucks.



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Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: 2Dogs] #1401495
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I agree with 2 dogs I've killed some that have been in the same area for years and I've gotten pics of some and kill them 2-3 miles away. All deer are different to me some stay around one area some travel and some get ran out of an area by other bucks and have to find a new home

Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: ikillbux] #1401503
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Like what's already stated, there is no rule of thumb for male deer. Home range size is one thing I don't like averages on, because deer are so individualistic and variable there seems to be no average home range or core area. I've seen the same thing as NH, whereas some individual bucks are confrontational, and wander freely, moving and covering great distances. They have the same characteristics at 5 as they did at 2. Others are homebodies, roam very little, and they appear to be more nocturnal. In my experience these deer are extremely hard to kill. Those that have smaller home ranges, tons of pictures of in a tight area, but seem to prefer night time movements.

Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: ikillbux] #1401504
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Their home range and core areas also change from one year to the next based on habitat and changes in herd dynamics and social structures.

Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: ] #1401513
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Originally Posted By: Matt Brock
Like what's already stated, there is no rule of thumb for male deer. Home range size is one thing I don't like averages on, because deer are so individualistic and variable there seems to be no average home range or core area. I've seen the same thing as NH, whereas some individual bucks are confrontational, and wander freely, moving and covering great distances. They have the same characteristics at 5 as they did at 2. Others are homebodies, roam very little, and they appear to be more nocturnal. In my experience these deer are extremely hard to kill. Those that have smaller home ranges, tons of pictures of in a tight area, but seem to prefer night time movements.


2 takes from this:
1). Bucks that roam freely and aren't nocturnal rarely make it to 5.
2). That "individualistic" characteristic is the reason they will never be fully understood....just like women. grin

Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: ] #1401519
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Originally Posted By: Matt Brock
Others are homebodies, roam very little, and they appear to be more nocturnal. In my experience these deer are extremely hard to kill. Those that have smaller home ranges, tons of pictures of in a tight area, but seem to prefer night time movements.


How would you approach trying to harvest one of these nocturnal bucks? This is definitely what I get pictures of. Hard to kill but there has to be a strategy to attempt to harvest a nocturnal homebody buck. What do you think is best approach? Do you just target that specific buck and not hunt any other deer? Hope he comes out daytime in rut?

Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: mw2015] #1401521
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Originally Posted By: mw2015
Originally Posted By: Matt Brock
Others are homebodies, roam very little, and they appear to be more nocturnal. In my experience these deer are extremely hard to kill. Those that have smaller home ranges, tons of pictures of in a tight area, but seem to prefer night time movements.


How would you approach trying to harvest one of these nocturnal bucks? This is definitely what I get pictures of. Hard to kill but there has to be a strategy to attempt to harvest a nocturnal homebody buck. What do you think is best approach? Do you just target that specific buck and not hunt any other deer? Hope he comes out daytime in rut?


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Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: mw2015] #1401522
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Originally Posted By: mw2015
Originally Posted By: Matt Brock
Others are homebodies, roam very little, and they appear to be more nocturnal. In my experience these deer are extremely hard to kill. Those that have smaller home ranges, tons of pictures of in a tight area, but seem to prefer night time movements.


How would you approach trying to harvest one of these nocturnal bucks? This is definitely what I get pictures of. Hard to kill but there has to be a strategy to attempt to harvest a nocturnal homebody buck. What do you think is best approach? Do you just target that specific buck and not hunt any other deer? Hope he comes out daytime in rut?


In order:
1). Spotlight
2). Dogs
3). Man drive
4). Rut
5). Sometimes (Most of the time) the deer just wins!!

Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: mw2015] #1401542
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Originally Posted By: mw2015
Originally Posted By: Matt Brock
Others are homebodies, roam very little, and they appear to be more nocturnal. In my experience these deer are extremely hard to kill. Those that have smaller home ranges, tons of pictures of in a tight area, but seem to prefer night time movements.


How would you approach trying to harvest one of these nocturnal bucks? This is definitely what I get pictures of. Hard to kill but there has to be a strategy to attempt to harvest a nocturnal homebody buck. What do you think is best approach? Do you just target that specific buck and not hunt any other deer? Hope he comes out daytime in rut?


He's moving somewhere in day light. Usually under thick cover. You got to figure out where. If all else fails a good man drive at the end of season works. Killing these deer, even in the rut, is difficult.

Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: mw2015] #1401553
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Originally Posted By: mw2015
How would you approach trying to harvest one of these nocturnal bucks?


There’s a method for killing good bucks that’s actually very, very simple but the vast majority of the folks will never do it or are just not in the position to do it……..and that’s to go in during October and plant a quality food plot and then don’t go back to hunt it until Jan 1-10 ish depending on your exact rut. The date may change if you have a different rut but you get the point. If you would be willing to do that then you will very likely put one on the wall year in and year out. Its certainly a trade off…. but effective to the point of being a near sure thing barring the hunt itself getting screwed up somehow. All season long while the folks around you pressure the chit out of their land…..your land will remain quiet and hunter free. As long as you have plenty of groceries available and they are not forced to leave to eat….then the local doe groups in the area will adjust their behavior within their home range and concentrate on the area with food and no pressure.

I see this happen every year here on my home property. I hunt a little during the first of bow season but once that’s over then I head to the hunting club to do any of my hunting for the next couple months. As gun season comes in and the hunters around me begin frolicking all willy nilly… to and fro all over their land…..the local doe herds around me begin to condense and concentrate more and more on my property….imagine the area they use daily acting like a balloon that’s having the air let out of it….and by the time Jan rolls around they’re packed out in very tight quarters all around me virtually never going anywhere but bed to feed….bed to feed. If you drew a buffer around my food plot of say 250-300 yards….then you would find it to be heavily concentrated with bedded does.

Now its rut time and you become pretty much the local pimp that’s scooped up most of the available nookie in that immediate area and have it hemmed up in your cathouse. That’s when you pick the right conditions and sneak back in to put your tag on one of the stray tomcats that is sure to be hanging around. If you wanted to get real fancy with it them one of those cameras that sends pics via text would be ideal. That way you would know exactly when the bucks started showing up and when you needed to spring the trap. Bucks will come in before the does actually go into estrous and begin tending the doe groups following them around and bedding with them. They eventually follow them right out into the open. smile

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Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: ikillbux] #1401556
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Those deer I talked about in the original post about being killed/seen 1.5 and 4.4 miles away started off as a batchelor group of 5 bucks in early September. Big crazy 7pt, 2 shootable 8pts, and a basket 6 and 5 pt. I would have photos of those deer on a feeder at 4:oo or 5:00 in the evening, and a neighbor who lived across a big creek would have that same bunch on camera later than night, and I would guess the distance at a mile. First I'm surprised they would daily travel that far for no apparent reason (I have the cutover bedding area and enough acorns/browse to feed deer all year), and second I was surprised they would daily cross that BIG creek. Another neighbor took a picture of them with her phone in her front yard one morning, and she lives in the total opposite direction. Where that big 7pt wound up killed at was 1.5 miles in a different direction from either of those places.


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Re: How far do deer travel regularly? [Re: CNC] #1401560
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Originally Posted By: CNC
Originally Posted By: mw2015
How would you approach trying to harvest one of these nocturnal bucks?


There’s a method for killing good bucks that’s actually very, very simple but the vast majority of the folks will never do it or are just not in the position to do it……..and that’s to go in during October and plant a quality food plot and then don’t go back to hunt it until Jan 1-10 ish depending on your exact rut. The date may change if you have a different rut but you get the point. If you would be willing to do that then you will very likely put one on the wall year in and year out. Its certainly a trade off…. but effective to the point of being a near sure thing barring the hunt itself getting screwed up somehow. All season long while the folks around you pressure the chit out of their land…..your land will remain quiet and hunter free. As long as you have plenty of groceries available and they are not forced to leave to eat….then the local doe groups in the area will adjust their behavior within their home range and concentrate on the area with food and no pressure.

I see this happen every year here on my home property. I hunt a little during the first of bow season but once that’s over then I head to the hunting club to do any of my hunting for the next couple months. As gun season comes in and the hunters around me begin frolicking all willy nilly… to and fro all over their land…..the local doe herds around me begin to condense and concentrate more and more on my property….imagine the area they use daily acting like a balloon that’s having the air let out of it….and by the time Jan rolls around they’re packed out in very tight quarters all around me virtually never going anywhere but bed to feed….bed to feed. If you drew a buffer around my food plot of say 250-300 yards….then you would find it to be heavily concentrated with bedded does.

Now its rut time and you become pretty much the local pimp that’s scooped up most of the available nookie in that immediate area and have it hemmed up in your cathouse. That’s when you pick the right conditions and sneak back in to put your tag on one of the stray tomcats that is sure to be hanging around. If you wanted to get real fancy with it them one of those cameras that sends pics via text would be ideal. That way you would know exactly when the bucks started showing up and when you needed to spring the trap. Bucks will come in before the does actually go into estrous and begin tending the doe groups following them around and bedding with them. They eventually follow them right out into the open. smile



I've killed too many bucks with my bow in November to not hunt then. The best time for me to hunt is when the buck I want is on your property.


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