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Re: Baiting [Re: timbercruiser] #1357803
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Atoler, btw, how else do you shoot a deer other than head down feeding? Is that the best way, they are not expecting it, less likely to duck an arrow. Do you wait till they sleep? Yell at them and shoot when they look at you? And btw I may have crops around my land but I slug hunt and bow hunt mostly in the woods. That 10 point I shot season was with a rifle but I got down from the pile of dead limbs I was sitting on and stalked him and the bucks he was with until I was 60 yards away at tops. I'm not a greenfield hunter/sitter.

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I hope it passes. I want all the deer I can get on my property and I will feed it by the tons. I have no interest in shooting anything but a mature buck with mature being 4+. If I can keep all the young bucks on my place that will increase my odds of preventing the neighbors from shooting every young buck that walks by them.

For all the guys against it....I don't think the law will state that it is mandatory for you to feed. It's optional just like dog hunting. If you don't like it...don't do it.

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Thinking on it more I have decided that I hope it passes too. I also hope that everyone around my lease puts out all the corn they can afford.........maybe I will see more deer that way when all the dang bears are on their place smile


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Originally Posted By: bigt
Thinking on it more I have decided that I hope it passes too. I also hope that everyone around my lease puts out all the corn they can afford.........maybe I will see more deer that way when all the dang bears and hogs are on their place smile


FIFY to add my thoughts.

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I must be an awful hunter because I cannot get that buck to come eat the one corn cob that's 20 yards away from my bow stand. However if I had only had one pile of corn in 900 acres I bet I'd know where to set up at.


If we were just talking about baiting in bow season you might have a minor point. But a corn pile or a corn field makes little difference with a 30-06 across your lap. LOL!

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Declining license sales have been and are a huge concern for the DCNR, and not just tiny declines.


Aren't license sales already on the decline? So why would that problem get blamed on baiting if this passes? I'd lose good money betting that the main reason for a decline in hunting license sales is a combination of less kids getting into hunting and people not having access to decent land to hunt. Large timber companies and hunting clubs now control the hunting access to a helluva lot of land that used to be hunted by a lot of people that, in the past, simply had permission from the landowner or a permit from the timber company. Those days are mostly gone.

A lot of people, especially the ones who just want a few deer for meat, won't (or can't) pay 1200 dollars to join a hunting club in order to maybe kill 3 deer. That works out to 400 dollars per deer before you even factor in any other hunting related expenses. Not exactly an economical way to get your meat anymore.

Yeah there is some public land but the hunting can be tough on it and many people are scared to venture out on it during gun season. I would be too. I read about a guy that got shot off a 4-wheeler riding down a logging road one year. Stories like that don't bolster my confidence of an orange hat protecting my ass.

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Re: Baiting [Re: Zkd22] #1357984
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Originally Posted By: Zkd22
I hope it passes. I want all the deer I can get on my property and I will feed it by the tons. I have no interest in shooting anything but a mature buck with mature being 4+. If I can keep all the young bucks on my place that will increase my odds of preventing the neighbors from shooting every young buck that walks by them.

For all the guys against it....I don't think the law will state that it is mandatory for you to feed. It's optional just like dog hunting. If you don't like it...don't do it.


It's not illegal to feed it by the tons now.


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Originally Posted By: Zkd22
I hope it passes. I want all the deer I can get on my property and I will feed it by the tons. I have no interest in shooting anything but a mature buck with mature being 4+. If I can keep all the young bucks on my place that will increase my odds of preventing the neighbors from shooting every young buck that walks by them.

For all the guys against it....I don't think the law will state that it is mandatory for you to feed. It's optional just like dog hunting. If you don't like it...don't do it.


It's not illegal to feed it by the tons now.


Very difficult on smaller tracts of land without limiting yourself to just a couple of stand location. Oh and I fed 3 or 4 tons last year...it just made it difficult with 100 yd rule

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Re: Baiting [Re: Zkd22] #1358005
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Originally Posted By: Zkd22
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Originally Posted By: Zkd22
I hope it passes. I want all the deer I can get on my property and I will feed it by the tons. I have no interest in shooting anything but a mature buck with mature being 4+. If I can keep all the young bucks on my place that will increase my odds of preventing the neighbors from shooting every young buck that walks by them.

For all the guys against it....I don't think the law will state that it is mandatory for you to feed. It's optional just like dog hunting. If you don't like it...don't do it.


It's not illegal to feed it by the tons now.


Very difficult on smaller tracts of land without limiting yourself to just a couple of stand location. Oh and I fed 3 or 4 tons last year...it just made it difficult with 100 yd rule


Lease more land. If you have money to feed wild animals then you surely have money to lease more land.

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How bout I lease the same? Plant less acres of greenfields, bush hog fewer roads, not add more ground that has to watched for trespassers, etc. you my friend can lease as many acres as you want and not feed or plant. Heck you can even pick up the acorns off ground the if you think it gives you an advantage over the deer.

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Originally Posted By: Rebelman

Originally Posted By: Zkd22
Originally Posted By: hunterbuck
Originally Posted By: Zkd22
I hope it passes. I want all the deer I can get on my property and I will feed it by the tons. I have no interest in shooting anything but a mature buck with mature being 4+. If I can keep all the young bucks on my place that will increase my odds of preventing the neighbors from shooting every young buck that walks by them.

For all the guys against it....I don't think the law will state that it is mandatory for you to feed. It's optional just like dog hunting. If you don't like it...don't do it.


It's not illegal to feed it by the tons now.


Very difficult on smaller tracts of land without limiting yourself to just a couple of stand location. Oh and I fed 3 or 4 tons last year...it just made it difficult with 100 yd rule


Lease more land. If you have money to feed wild animals then you surely have money to lease more land.


well that's one way to add fuel to the fire.

Re: Baiting [Re: Bamabucks14] #1358050
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If this is such a big issue, just farm deer, like cattle. The hell with the traditional aspect of hunting. "I need bait to kill a deer". You're a shitass excuse of a hunter if that's the case Stop your bitching. If you can't kill a deer buy some potted meat for 69 cents a can. If you hunt and cannot get at least one shot on a deer, of either sex, without bait, by all means bait them. But if that's the case you probably live in another country where whitetail deer do not exist.


This is pretty much exactly what I was referring to in my first post. You are condemning others for wanting to bait, while you have access to ag land covered in food...... You are lucky to have land that you really don't need to feed to keep deer on it. Many many many clubs that lease timber land, do not have the ground available to draw many deer by planting. Like I said, I don't really care if it is legal or not, but If you think sitting on a huge cut corn field and killing a deer is a lot different than sitting on a corn pile, well....

Yea guess your right. Condemning folks, well said. Your are a worm with words. So any place in the country with a corn field is the same as baiting? I must be an awful hunter because I cannot get that buck to come eat the one corn cob that's 20 yards away from my bow stand. However if I had only had one pile of corn in 900 acres I bet I'd know where to set up at. I'm not condemning anyone pal, just my opinion.


not exactly sure what you mean by a worm with words, but if that is code for ability to directly quote you, then I guess I'll take it. "You're a shitass excuse for a hunter" pretty much sums it up. That is condemning in my book.

Re: Baiting [Re: Bamabucks14] #1358057
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Atoler, btw, how else do you shoot a deer other than head down feeding? Is that the best way, they are not expecting it, less likely to duck an arrow. Do you wait till they sleep? Yell at them and shoot when they look at you? And btw I may have crops around my land but I slug hunt and bow hunt mostly in the woods. That 10 point I shot season was with a rifle but I got down from the pile of dead limbs I was sitting on and stalked him and the bucks he was with until I was 60 yards away at tops. I'm not a greenfield hunter/sitter.


I also bow hunt most of the time. and I don't really care how others choose to hunt. I actually don't have any corn piles, ag fields, or green fields where I hunt. I just hunt acorns, honeysuckle, in the thick, etc. I just can't see a big difference between planting a plot, and dumping corn on the ground. I saw the change happen in georgia, and I can tell you, most feeding is to keep deer on the land, not hunt over. 2 or 3 deer get shot over a feeder and you can pretty much hang it up on that spot.

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Just for the record, hunter satisfaction has been proven to decline sharply where baiting is allowed. Hunters are much more satisfied on areas with no bait. Hunter success is also higher.

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Just for the record, hunter satisfaction has been proven to decline sharply where baiting is allowed. Hunters are much more satisfied on areas with no bait. Hunter success is also higher.


I wonder how Kentucky sells so many NR tags every year.

Re: Baiting [Re: extreme heights hunter] #1358069
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Originally Posted By: Zkd22
Originally Posted By: hunterbuck
Originally Posted By: Zkd22
I hope it passes. I want all the deer I can get on my property and I will feed it by the tons. I have no interest in shooting anything but a mature buck with mature being 4+. If I can keep all the young bucks on my place that will increase my odds of preventing the neighbors from shooting every young buck that walks by them.

For all the guys against it....I don't think the law will state that it is mandatory for you to feed. It's optional just like dog hunting. If you don't like it...don't do it.


It's not illegal to feed it by the tons now.


Very difficult on smaller tracts of land without limiting yourself to just a couple of stand location. Oh and I fed 3 or 4 tons last year...it just made it difficult with 100 yd rule


Lease more land. If you have money to feed wild animals then you surely have money to lease more land.


well that's one way to add fuel to the fire.


Of course....there's an extinguisher over the shoulder somewhere...


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I just don't understand why everyone thinks a 140 is going to walk out 20 yards from your bow stand and let you stick him. It's not going to happen. If you have ever fed much corn and had a camera on it you would know this. Feed does not make them stupid. People act like if we go to feeding that folks are going to be riding around with pick up loads of deer.

I just don't see how it can be any different than having the only green grass around come January and sitting there watching it with a rifle.

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Originally Posted By: Zkd22
People act like if we go to feeding that folks are going to be riding around with pick up loads of deer.


Sad thing is some people think it will...


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Shot a wild 144-inch with a .308 in Kansas 100 yards from me eating at a feeder. It walked hundreds of yards across brushy open ground straight to the feeder on a rope at mid-afternoon.

So, nice bucks do come to feeders during the day. If corn/pellets/beans/food is there and they're used to it and it's consistently provided, they will come.


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Originally Posted By: Clem

Shot a wild 144-inch with a .308 in Kansas 100 yards from me eating at a feeder. It walked hundreds of yards across brushy open ground straight to the feeder on a rope at mid-afternoon.

So, nice bucks do come to feeders during the day. If corn/pellets/beans/food is there and they're used to it and it's consistently provided, they will come.


What time of year was this?

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First week of December. Was cold as an icebox.

This was after watching a crew of does with one young, skinny-necked 130-inch buck and some smaller bucks eat at the feeder during the day for two days.

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