We are in the Greenville area . We have great land and camp. Big timber lots of game. Great bow hunting . This is private land 3000ac at $10 per ac. we carry 16-18 members at $2500 ea. We are loaded with wildlife . When i say loaded i mean you can see 15-20 deer a day from the camp porch. I can email a folder with info to serious enquirers. thanks

pm sent

I am new to posting on here email me pattersonray2003@yahoo.com thanks I live in Milton

In Forest Home?

email me some info, very interested in some pictures and the rules.
hunt4jesus7@gmail.com

Email me dbrannan19@yahoo.com

pm sent

been a member on aldeer since 2011, Got 10 deer in the food pl0t at one time during the day, 15 turkeys gobble back at once, and caught 17 bass on 17 casts. and had 7 or 8 threads on here looking for members. and shoots 20 mounters a year. Were do I send my money.

I was a member of this club last year. If you want the straight skinny on this club and the Gentleman running it, feel free to shoot me a PM for details..

I sense some drama.

This is the club in Forest Home.

It ain't me stirring shucks up this time.

I looked at the club last year when they needed 9 new members. They dont want you in if you actually hunt. You are supposed to just sit on the porch and watch deer from there and drink coffee. They also discourage bringing your 10 year old son or your wife. They may be to loud or put to much pressure on the wildlife you see from the porch!

...so its a deer watching club?

Is there a fine if you even bring a gun or bow? This could make or break someone's decision....

It sounds like you were an actual member, Beans. Because this is an acurate description of the club. If Ray had been this candid with me last year I would never have joined. And they're replacing half the membership again this year. I found out after joining, this happens every year.

So, y'all are saying that they want a bunch of folks to pay the lease, so that just a few people can actually hunt?

BINGO! We have a winner. That's exactlly what Ray and his son are looking for, Hunterbuck.

I almost made the mistake of joining but when i realized that your family is not really welcome to come with you for a weekend and they dont want anyone who actually wants to hunt i backed out.

its pretty obvious he's a liar. Been a member for 4 years but said he was new and didnt know how to post pics, but has a website full of pictures on his .net website. Then if you look back at his older posts, there's no denying he full of chit

another lie

this is my favorite though

Ol Ray may not have many posts, but he's got some gooduns.

However, it's probably pointless to call him out Goodman. We all know folks like this, and they just live the dream inside their heads.

He has emailed me a few times and info seemed and sounded good. I told him he might wanna come on here and defend a lot of viable sounding accusations. What sounded like a good place don't sound so good anymore.

What, exactly, is done to prevent one from actually hunting after they've paid their dues in full?

This is my last visit to this site. When you have a place as nice as ours it is hard to find people who can enjoy it they just can't stand it. Example one guy on here bashing says to me we gotta kill all these deer looking at 14 from the porch latter he admitted killing 8 from the porch. Yes he is pissed he was let go. Another Just ask radaralph 3 questions. Did he try to rejoin? yes but was voted out by the membership.. Ask him about his mountain of Oxycontin at home? Ask him about getting arrested for jumping the fence at a petting zoo and stabbing a doe to death? Yes
These are the kind of people that go wild when the club votes them out . Oh these guys also saw plenty of bucks and killed some nice ones that is why they wanted to re-join. yes the video of a 7pt standing in the food plot being ask from 15 yrds. wheres your daddy is still passed around the club. And this year we had 2 members stand at the pond one with scale one fishing and in 15 minutes weighed in 24 lbs of bass best 5.5 second 4.5 GoodBye forever

This is getting interesting!

If this were on TV, it could be the next Justified.

I have GOT to hear this story.

Well since Ray has made it personal and put it out to the public, let me give you the details. The deer stabbing incident took place 40 yrs ago. I've never taken an Oxy in my life. His son is the grug addict, as told to me by long time members. And several of the members are smoking grass every night. I didn't try to rejoin, I was asked to find a new club before the season was even over. The only ones who complained was his son Wes and Kyle the bow hunter. This was straight from Ray's mouth. It was because I'm retired and hunted during the week when they were at work. At this point Ray is pissed because I'm following him around the web and posting the truth about him. Here is the rest of the story:

This is a list of Bullet Points I put on an earlier Craigslist posting. Ray complained about it and it was removed, as was his posting for a Hunting Club. He calls the club The Gentleman's Hunting Club.

- No Guests after a certain date. Unless it's a family member such as his brother or one of his "Chosen Ones".

- Fees. Don't be surprised by a hidden electric bill. Just before bow season Ray says we need to pay $25 a month for Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan and Feb. Three members paid in full. One member paid for a month. (The only month he hunted all year.) The other members? NADA. The 4 that paid are not hunting there this year.

- Guest Fees. You'll be asked to pay them. Don't expect his son, brother or the Chosen Ones to pay. And don't bother to ask to see an accounting. That's like Hillary's emails. Locked in a server in the basement.

- No hunting over bait, unless it's Ray, or his son or his brother or his new young bow hunter. Or the two guys from Destin. They all put out pallet loads and truck bed loads of corn and rice bran over hidden spots in the woods and around food plots. If you do it too, you're putting too much pressure on the food plot and drawing all the deer.

- I didn't hunt at all during bow season. I hunted 4 days in Nov and 4 days in Dec. I hunted 3 � weeks during Jan. I was accused of putting too much pressure on the 3000 acres because I hunted on weekdays instead of weekends when his son could hunt. Ray was there every day that I was. And a hell of a lot when I wasn't. His son and the young bow hunter hunted 3 times as much as I did including week long stay when they took vacations. I was told to look for a new camp.

- Ray says to let the young bucks walk. The first buck his son brought in had about 75"of antler. Rays' first 2 bucks killed this year had about 90" of antler, COMBINED.

- He was advertising sitting on the couch and watching color TV with HBO. Maybe, maybe not. I brought three couches, a dining room table, chairs and the TV up with me. I took them home along with my 2 bunk beds too. The satellite dish is coming out as well.

- Don't trust anything Ray says. I asked him on a couple of occasions about doing something not specifically covered in the rules. He told me one thing in the presence of others. He then sent out emails a few days later telling me not to do what he said I could.

- I tried to be a good member by following the rules, asking for clarification and getting along with others. I cooked suppers for the entire camp on more occasions then I can count. I asked nothing in return, just good fellowship. When Ray said there were others complaining I was hunting too much, I offered no apology. I called them whiny a$$ bitches that were jealous I was retired and could hunt when I wanted. I guess that hit too close to home since apparently his son was the number one culprit. Rays' own words to me in his last email were "Thanks for being a good camp member".

Two other members were told they were hunting too hard as well. They're both out. One of them joined me in a new camp near York, AL Much bigger property, same price of $2500, less members and they laughed when I told them about "Hunting too hard."

Ask him about selling corp memberships to Eddie Salter. The Turkey Man. I went to collect my belongings in March and there were a dozen people in camp. Eddie had "sold" hunts to 4 guys (@$2500 a pop) from New Jersey to film on his TV show. Ray didn't tell Eddie about the 2 dedicated Turkey hunters from Baldwin Co that had been long time members. They joined the club just for the turkeys. And he didn't tell those two about Eddie Salter. It all came out after dues were paid and checks cashed.

These are the reasons he's replacing half his membership. Unfortunately, I found out after joining this happens every year.

So....you're saying you DID stab a doe to death. You might get a hall of fame nomination if you'll tell that part of the story too.

As for leaving this site for good Ray, let me tell you. You can run but you can't hide. As long as you advertise publicly for new members I will find you. And I will tell the truth. Something that seems to escape you.

Ray is just mad cause you stabbed a doe with a pocket knife which makes you pretty much a bad ass. You can probably get hero status around here with a story.

Deer stabbing. True story.

Nickel beer night at The Barrels night club. Pensacola around 1977. Stationed at NAS Pensacola, Forest Sherman Field. The scene of the crime was the Aviators Land and Sea Survival school. I did not act alone but you can imagine the details.

Not proud of it but never tried to hide from it.

I believe I speak for everyone when I say you are going to have to tell that story. You can't possibly have an epic story such as that and leave us with a cliffhanger.

Hell yeah! I had a feeling it was something like that! Ok my vote is you stay and RAYP gtfo.

That is awesome! Would make one hell of a signature line.

Two thumbs up for most interesting story of the month!

Great thread !!!

Classic aldeer gold right here.

Awesome!

I work on NAS Pensacola, and that story still to this day gets told.

Glad to finally meet you.

Pleasure is all mine. I'm sorry Ray decided to take this public but at least it entertained some of the members. My wife and I are still laughing reading the responses. I really just wanted to privately warn people before they cut a check for $2500 with high expectations.... Like I did last year.

So Ralph, again....what exactly do they do to prevent one from going hunting? I'm not busting your balls, that part just fascinates me.

Hell I paid $1,300 and got forked out of turkey hunting so yea I know how you feel.

The last week of Jan Ray sent an email to 3 of us pissing and moaning about "Hunting too Hard". We needed to stop and slow down. These were his words. Next time in camp the 3 of us sat down to discuss his issue and thats when he said his son and Kyle were complaing we were hunting too hard and presurring the property. Have you ever hunted 3000 acres? It's huge!! The next week when he was wanting to know who would return next year I was advised I should look for a new camp.

I'd email Ray back informing him to kiss my extreme lower back !

You know it has to be true because there ain't no freaking way you can make this stuff up.

I found the "Gentleman" on Pensacola fishing forum .com. Thanks to the heads up by one of the members here. If anyone else finds Rayp trolling for hunters to pay his deer lease on another forum, please let me know with a PM. Remember, It could have been you or a family member about to write him a $2500 check.

http://www.pensacolafishingforum.com/f48/very-nice-place-523889/

Thanks

Classic!!

Link didn't work for me.

Me either

Ray removed the thread within a few hours of me posting on it.

And I just received word Ray says he won't lease the property this year. I guess he couldn't find enough suckers.

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All you greedy guys ruined Rays hunting --come on everybody lets send him $2500 .
I despise a con-man !

Wonder if this was before or after he sent out a moderator notification about this thread. He said the reason Radaralph was kicked out was because of the "doe stabbing" incident.

That's a crock. I told that story at dinner one night (that I cooked and fed to the entire camp) and they were laughing their butts off. The truth is, his son was pissed off because he's still working for a living and I'm retired. I promise you, every day that boy was at work he could think of nothing other than the fact that I was hunting and he wasn't. That I might kill a big deer while he was at work. And he was whinning to his daddy about it. I know, all of you know "deer hunters" like this.

Okay, Ray is gone...apparently forever. Maybe you saved someone here some grief by exposing him and his club.

Now, tell us more about the nickel beer night doe stabbing. Inquiring minds want to know. We'd like to hear the whole story.

I agree with Cuz...hold up, runnin to get a beer and some popcorn...alite go ahead!

Well since Ray isn't going to lease it, sounds like a prime little piece for some ALDEER members to get a club together.

And yes, I'm waiting for a more detailed story about the doe stabbing.

Exactly what I was thinking

Dang..ne too. Lets get the details. How many drinks did you have? what kinda knife did you use? how did you get caught...yea..come on! lets hear it.

I remember this!

WOW- kick somebody out of a club for an incident that happened 38 YEARS prior. I didn't realize the statute of limitations on doe stabbings was 40 years!!

If you do, then let's hear the story!!

My name is Steve Ted O. I go by Ted Just wanted to Give you some History. I am a accountant I handled the company Mr Ray worked for years . I Did the numbers for this club in short 3000ac. plus all expenses . Was 40,000.00 of that Mr. Ray payed $15,000.00 a season . I was in this club for 5 yrs. till 2011. Me and my Grandson Camden both killed fine bucks on the place and I have a video of Camden catching 7 bass in a row when he was 8yrs old.
Mr. Ray called me about pulling some funds from some of his investments I manage to pay the lease. He told me what was up so I elected to tell the my side of these post. 1. His two sons payed $50. a week out of there checks till there dues were payed I handled the account I know ! 2. I can't name all the times he set members up on bucks he Knew of including 2 I mounted . I watched him go home 2.5 hrs each way to get his yellow lab to find lost bucks for members. Last count I remember the dog had found 9 over the years. Each year the club seemed to need to let a couple go. One yr we let go 2 brothers they killed 26 doe between them. When they left in July they took most every shooting house. We did not know till time to prep plots. Ray went and bought 22 double seater ladder stands to replace them with his money and we all built stands for 2 days. He is not the Man said on here. Listening to guys that were removed for a reason? Shame on you. He told me about this Ralph yelling and dog cussing the members because someone had used a 1/2 pound of his 1 pound bag of flour! Ray said he just calmly walked over to the other camp and came back with 2 bags of flour ! He said he never even told the guy that used it how he was called a no good... He just added it to one more reason to let Ralph go. Any way Ray needed 3 more guys and ask me to pull the funds as far as I know he's keeping it. TED.

New member alert!!

The accountant that handles the company I work for does not handle my investments, but if he did and divulged my financial doings on a public internet forum, or anywhere else, I would fire his arse in a second.

You say the boys paid $50 per week until their dues were paid? It would take 50 weeks to pay $2,500, and there are only 52 in a year, so I guess they didn�t make a payment for two weeks per year.

Damn Ted, you shouldn't have skipped the English classes when you were in school to become an accountant.

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16 members x $2500 = 40k

Ray is paying 15k a year. I'm no accountant Ted but something is not adding up...

I just caught another strong whiff of some horse duty

Got drama????

brack is a accountant, stock broker,and taxidermist. You cut hair and sale bbq out your office too?

Hey, we also are forgettn about this Deer stabbing story...just sayn haha but Fuzzy and the others, carry on! ha

I know YOU!!!!

First Ray makes it personal and attacks me while I was trying to be discreet. Now he sends a sycophantic surogate to throw stones at me too. And he has greatly exaggerated the flour incident. The person I supposedly "Dog Cussed" for using all the flour has joined me in the new camp in York. Incidentally, Ray emailed him last week and told him to have all his belongings out of the camp by the end of May. Ray said the lease was full, there was no longer room for him and the locks would be changed June 1. Ray emailed one of the turkey hunters from Baldwin co this weekend and said he was letting the lease go. Now his surogate says Ray is paying 3 spots for the lease out of his own pocket. For a guy who hasn't worked in 2 years Ol Ray must be pretty flush.

But more importantly he keeps telling a different story. By last count, that's three. And he has yet to refute ONE SINGLE ASSERTION I have made about his camp or him. This goes to character, a quality Ray is apparently short of.

As for the accountant. I'm not sure who he is. I never saw him in camp this year and he wasn't a member. In fact, I think both Ray and his accountant are one and the same. They both write like they're illiterate. (That means lacking an education, Ray)

I don't mind defending myself. I don't have anything to hide. But this thread should serve as a warning to anyone thinking of cutting a $2500 check to "The Gentleman's Hunting Club". We can keep this up until the Mods shut us down. Stayed tuned for the full account of the doe stabbing.

But remember this Ray, You can't hide from the truth.

Oh Yeah. Hey BD. When you going to really retire? :-)

Brack and Rayp are logged in under the same IP address. Hmmmmmm..........

He must be posting from his accountant/stock broker/butler/Mommies ofice.

Well one things for sure these clubs that like to screw the members are getting thinned out this year.

Why am I not surprised? I was always told I have a keen eye for the obvious.

Maybe they're roommates....or married....

I would like to join this club on the $50 a week plan. I would like to start my payments a week before deer season comes in.

I would assume this payment plan is available to all members?

I think Ralph gonna fit in just fine around here.

This is good stuff. And I really like having an umpire (Shaw) to keep things on track. Carry on...

Today and only today if you join you will receive absolutely free:

^^^Aldeer gold right there!

Dr. B

I guessed that one right off, even before SHAW did the secret squirrel thingy that mods do to let big brother in on our posts.
this is GOLD...bookmark

Maybe this will continue till bow season, I'm in need of entertainment while at work.

I hope it does go on for the sake of entertainment. Its a slow time of the year. I'd also like to hear the deer stabbing story. Thats some Navy Seal stuff right there.

When I can afford it!!

Can we add: : Golden BPS hanger and one on one instruction on Cloroxing a stump??

...I am good to go boys, bring on that Deer Stabbin Story! ha

This thread fails to deliver. Not one new member has joined today, to tell us how good things are in this club.

Where do some of yall get these icons? Hilarious!

I guess I'll post some more about the ongoing saga of Poor Ol Ray. At 1:17p on Monday Ray's "accountant " BRACK, posted on here defending Good Ol Ray and bashed me for dog cussing my friend over the "flour incident". He went on to say Ray didn't even mention it to him.

Well, my friend forwarded an email to me yesterday which Ray sent him on Monday at 1:45p. (I'm sure the timing is purely coincidental.) Ray incoherently rambled on about how I was hating on him and he didn't do anything wrong. My brain was hurting trying to make sense of his lack of punctuation, capitalization, proper sentence structure or correct spelling. To paraphrase, he says he's just a great guy and doesn't understand where all this is coming from. He ends the email by telling my friend how I had cussed him up and down for using all the flour.

I said it before and I'll say it again. Ray does not know how to tell the truth. Further evidence you should avoid him and his club. He still has not denied a single one of the points I made earlier. Like I told my friend, it really wasn't about the unfair application of rules. That was Ray's issue, not mine. I followed the rules. If Ray wanted to enforce or not enforce rules with others that was up to him.

But when he accused my friend and I (and 1 other) we were hunting too hard and had to slow down, that was the straw that broke the camel's back. This is the real reason Ray asked me to find another camp. All the other crap is a smoke screen.

As long as Ray continues to bash me and continues to troll for members I will continue my crusade to inform you. Remember Ray, you made it personal and public.

Stay tuned. I'm sure we haven't heard the last of Poor Ol Ray.

I would not be surprised to see a "new" club name in the near future. Stay on that azz!!!

I don't think Ray has the sack to post in this thread again.

.....under his original handle.

My name is Billy Frank John. I go by Billy Frank John. Just wanted to give some historie on this tail. I am tree cutter that cut trees on 3000 acers that Mr Ray lease. Mr Ray great man. I buy dear meat from Mr Ray and he alway do me rite. I buy $10 of meat and give him $20. He give me back $5 change. Mr Ray honest man. I like french fried taters. I jus join club this year for $2500. Mr Ray say I only give him $500 more if I want to dear hunt.

If y'all keep this up ol' Ted the Accountadermist is gonna get pissed.

Still waiting on the deer stabbing story. It ought to be good.

Legit.

How did I miss this??? Does Mr. Ray allow deer dogging? If so, I am interested..

By the way, either Ray or Ted checked this thread at 9:07 this morning.

I hope it's okay for us to call him Ted.

I dunno. Whenever I see this thread and see Ray's name, that dude from the "Strut dat azz!" clip pops into my head! That's the way I imagine him.

Dr. B