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Re: Chambering Problem [Re: fladeerhntr] #1328355
04/15/15 03:51 PM
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I've only been reloading a few years, so take my advice with a grain of salt. I'm no where near as experienced as the others who have posted so far.

I think you're putting quite a bit of crimp on the case and not realizing it. I've never set up my seater die like that.

I've always just used a factory round as a starting point.(Use the reload from your buddy)
I put one in the shell holder, raise the ram, and screw in the seater die until it touches the bullet of the factory round.

Again, this is my starting point.


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Re: Chambering Problem [Re: shooters] #1328454
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Originally Posted By: shooters
I think you are screwing the seating die down to far. Turn it back AT least 1 full turn or 2 . Then use the steam to run it down to seat your bullet. MY guess is you die has build in crimp and its crimping AS it seats the bullet. THIS may becausing it to BULGE you neck. Back it of a round or 2 and try it again


Well I did this and it worked perfect for the 243 I couldn't ask for it to chamber anymore perfect than it did. The 7mm mag tho was a different story I still have the same issue of the bolt handle being difficult to lift and lock down. This is all after backing my die off 2 turns and putting the bullet my friend made and setting the seating stem by it.

Re: Chambering Problem [Re: fladeerhntr] #1328731
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Still might be a little long depending on the bullet if the bullet is different. Make sure you got a fresh piece of brass...seat the bullet a little deeper and see.


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Re: Chambering Problem [Re: Goatkiller] #1328799
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Originally Posted By: Goatkiller
Still might be a little long depending on the bullet if the bullet is different. Make sure you got a fresh piece of brass...seat the bullet a little deeper and see.


So I should back the die off or the seater stem? The only difference in the bullets is that I set the die up with a loaded round using a 140 Accubond and I was trying to load a 139 hornady interlock btsp.

Re: Chambering Problem [Re: fladeerhntr] #1328919
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Yea... You still need to run an empty up in there and back the die off a turn or two. Then take the loaded round and adjust the seater down until it is touching the loaded round.

It is going to be real close even though the bullets are not the same. Seat your new bullet and if it is still tight... just adjust a hair deeper at a time until it chambers fine.

If it isn't tight at all you may want to go back the other way... longer.

You probably did but don't forget to chamfer the inside of the case neck.

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Re: Chambering Problem [Re: fladeerhntr] #1328940
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Try a piece of resized brass WITHOUT a bullet and see what happens with it.


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Re: Chambering Problem [Re: Wiley Coyote] #1329153
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Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Try a piece of resized brass WITHOUT a bullet and see what happens with it.


I have trimmed, chamfered and deburred several pieces of once fired brass and they chamber smooth every time. It's not until I seat a bullet that something happens and it's difficult to lock the bolt down and release it.

Re: Chambering Problem [Re: fladeerhntr] #1329165
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Originally Posted By: fladeerhntr
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Try a piece of resized brass WITHOUT a bullet and see what happens with it.


I have trimmed, chamfered and deburred several pieces of once fired brass and they chamber smooth every time. It's not until I seat a bullet that something happens and it's difficult to lock the bolt down and release it.
Ok. Try this. AFTER you size , trim, and debur. PUT you brass in press WITH your seating die. Raise it all the way up, THEN see if it still chambers in your rifle WITHOUT a bullet.

Re: Chambering Problem [Re: fladeerhntr] #1329228
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Ok I've taken all of the suggestions that everyone gave me and I think I've solved the problem. I unscrewed my die back 3 complete turns and seated the bullet by turning the seater plug down a tiny bit at a time. After screwing it down and chambering it in my rifle about 10-15 times the bolt finally locked and released smoothly.

Re: Chambering Problem [Re: fladeerhntr] #1331010
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Well just when I thought I had all my problems figured out I've ran into another one. I'm having the same problem that I was before but with my 270 and I'm having difficulty right after I trim,chamfer and debur and before I didn't have this problem until I seated a bullet. MY manual says the trimmed brass should be 2.540 and mine are measuring 2.533. What would be causing this problem?

Re: Chambering Problem [Re: fladeerhntr] #1331502
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Re: Chambering Problem [Re: fladeerhntr] #1331668
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I believe I figured our the problem. I had to screw my resizing die down another quarter turn past the point where it was barely touching the shellholder. After doing this all of the brass chambers smooth so the only thing I can figure is I wasn't resizing the entire brass where I had it.

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