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Re: Gulf Red Snapper
[Re: Simpleman]
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04/17/15 02:53 AM
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TChunter
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Or having to hire a guide to take you to kill a deer on your property you pay taxes on.
On the Eighth day God created flounder.
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Re: Gulf Red Snapper
[Re: bama7x57]
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04/17/15 03:08 AM
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Daniel, I would say it'd be like they told you that you could only sale milk for 9 days last year because you are a business, but your neighbor could milk their cows for 70 plus days since he a recreational farmer.
The bottom line is the states going against the feds have caused the issue and I can completely understand why the states would do that. The other big issue is that a charter boat has always had to follow the stricter season of the states or feds because we hold both license where a private boat owner is allowed to fish both and use it to their advantage.
An example would where a guy owns his boat and runs offshore and catches a mess of vermillion snapper, some grouper, a wahoo and heads back home to stop in state water to catch a quick limit of red snapper.
Another guy is on vacation at the same time and charters a boat, now he can go catch snapper in state waters with a non federal license guide boat for snapper in state waters, but they probably aren't going to have vermillions, grouper, and wahoo. Just snapper. Or he can go with a charter boat that holds a federal license and goes out and catches a nice mixed bag of fish, but they can't stop and catch snapper in state water.
What gives the boat owner more rights than the renter?
Last edited by captjab; 04/17/15 03:50 AM.
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Re: Gulf Red Snapper
[Re: TChunter]
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04/17/15 03:19 AM
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captjab
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Or having to hire a guide to take you to kill a deer on your property you pay taxes on. You sure about that? What about the hunter that doesn't own property? Should he not be allowed to deer hunt by leasing property? That's how it's been for the past few years in the gulf. Private rec fisherman that own or have access to a boat have had more days available to the to keep snapper than the non boat owning public.
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Re: Gulf Red Snapper
[Re: captjab]
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04/17/15 04:24 AM
04/17/15 04:24 AM
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TChunter
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Or having to hire a guide to take you to kill a deer on your property you pay taxes on. You sure about that? What about the hunter that doesn't own property? Should he not be allowed to deer hunt by leasing property? That's how it's been for the past few years in the gulf. Private rec fisherman that own or have access to a boat have had more days available to the to keep snapper than the non boat owning public. I meant leasing as well...same thing. It's BS
On the Eighth day God created flounder.
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Re: Gulf Red Snapper
[Re: TChunter]
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04/17/15 04:29 AM
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Snapper season date has not been set yet in the state of Alabama. I'll have more info in a couple of weeks.
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Re: Gulf Red Snapper
[Re: captjab]
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04/17/15 04:32 AM
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Daniel, I would say it'd be like they told you that you could only sale milk for 9 days last year because you are a business, but your neighbor could milk their cows for 70 plus days since he a recreational farmer.
The bottom line is the states going against the feds have caused the issue and I can completely understand why the states would do that. The other big issue is that a charter boat has always had to follow the stricter season of the states or feds because we hold both license where a private boat owner is allowed to fish both and use it to their advantage.
An example would where a guy owns his boat and runs offshore and catches a mess of vermillion snapper, some grouper, a wahoo and heads back home to stop in state water to catch a quick limit of red snapper.
Another guy is on vacation at the same time and charters a boat, now he can go catch snapper in state waters with a non federal license guide boat for snapper in state waters, but they probably aren't going to have vermillions, grouper, and wahoo. Just snapper. Or he can go with a charter boat that holds a federal license and goes out and catches a nice mixed bag of fish, but they can't stop and catch snapper in state water.
What gives the boat owner more rights than the renter?
Wow. Sounds confusing to me. Maybe they can reach some middle ground for everybody. I wasn't trying to stir in my earlier post. Just trying to understand.
"You do and it will be the biggest mistake you ever made, you Texas brush popper" John Wayne
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Re: Gulf Red Snapper
[Re: bama7x57]
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04/17/15 04:38 AM
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I know you weren't. It's extremely screwed up. Charter for hire and rec. guys should have the same guide lines, but due to a rule put in place years ago and the states going against the feds, it has really messed everything up.
Last edited by captjab; 04/17/15 05:28 AM.
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Re: Gulf Red Snapper
[Re: bama7x57]
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04/17/15 10:38 AM
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I agree with you on the financial control part, but I believe you may be wrong on the noncompliant part. Not sure what year it was, but I can remember Al. & Fl. going noncompliant.
Last edited by captjab; 04/17/15 10:44 AM.
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