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Re: Lime Question
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04/01/15 06:07 PM
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disking won't put the lime too deep for the plants roots.....
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Re: Lime Question
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04/02/15 01:21 AM
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Soil type, dictates how fast and how far lime will leach into the soil profile. On sandy soil, lime leaches readily, just like salt at your mineral lick. Clay on the other hand, not so much. If i had clay soils, i would try and disk the lime in, but on sandy or a sandy loam, top dressing works just fine.
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Re: Lime Question
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04/02/15 03:32 AM
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All good advice. Personally, I wouldn't disc it in. It will leach through the soil on its own. You primarily want to get the pH and nutrients right in the top 4" of topsoil where the plants would get the most use. Granted, some plants send roots deeper than 4" but you don't want to speed up the leaching process if you don't have to.
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Re: Lime Question
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04/02/15 08:20 AM
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All good advice. Personally, I wouldn't disc it in. It will leach through the soil on its own. You primarily want to get the pH and nutrients right in the top 4" of topsoil where the plants would get the most use. Granted, some plants send roots deeper than 4" but you don't want to speed up the leaching process if you don't have to. Yeah, that is kind of what I was thinking.
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Re: Lime Question
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04/05/15 06:53 AM
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disking won't put the lime too deep for the plants roots..... Agree, If it does then you are doing it wrong. Discing is to break up the clods to give a good seed bed. Lime won't penetrate hard clods and plant seeds wont grow in a clod. I always lime after plowing and before discing. Why use pelleted lime? It takes longer to get into the soil and you only lime where the little pellet lands. I'd recommend using coarse Barn Lime or the standard Garden Lime.
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Re: Lime Question
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04/07/15 03:27 AM
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I carried my soil test results to the guy over the Co-Op today that has been in the business a long time. My test called for about 1 1/2 tons per acre. He said I need to put the 1 1/2 tons per acre out for 3 straight years to get my soil in good shape. Never had heard it, but when he explained the why behind it I understood. Never heard that one before either. What was the reason he gave?
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Re: Lime Question
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04/07/15 07:59 AM
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Look at it this way, you can dump a load of Limestone rocks on the ground and then check the soil pH under the pile in 6 months and there won't be much if any change. It's because the rocks didn't dissolve enough to have much effect. Lime needs to dissolve to get the full benefit. That's why powdered lime works faster than pelletized lime. It takes a while for the pellets to dissolve. This is yet another reason I wouldn't disc it in. I would want the rain to hit the pellets and help dissolve them. Bury those pellets 6" deep and it's no wonder your fields don't show much improvement from one test to the next. Pelletized lime that gets buried probably takes a very long time to fully dissolve.
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Re: Lime Question
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04/07/15 08:18 AM
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I carried my soil test results to the guy over the Co-Op today that has been in the business a long time. My test called for about 1 1/2 tons per acre. He said I need to put the 1 1/2 tons per acre out for 3 straight years to get my soil in good shape. Never had heard it, but when he explained the why behind it I understood. It depends on your soil type as to how easy it is to adjust ph. I had a sandy plot that we put 2 tons/acre on and the ph went from 4.5 to 6.5 in just a few months. Never heard of liming 3 years in a row, but if you have some dense clay, it could take a bunch
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Re: Lime Question
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04/07/15 10:05 AM
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Don't hold me to this one but I don't think that lime actually "dissolves". I think it is broken down and incorporated into the nutrient cycle by the microbial community.
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Re: Lime Question
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04/07/15 04:18 PM
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Don't hold me to this one but I don't think that lime actually "dissolves". I think it is broken down and incorporated into the nutrient cycle by the microbial community. Dissolve, breaking down, I think we're still illustrating the same principle. Lime works by bonding to excess hydrogen ions. The lime can't bond to hydrogen if it's bonded to other lime particles, hence the need for the clumps to break down, dissolve, whatever. It's widely accepted that fine lime works faster than coarse lime. It may not actually dissolve in the true chemistry sense of the word.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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