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Re: Sunn Hemp
[Re: billrv]
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03/30/15 02:08 PM
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Dont plant a small plot. If I plant less than 1 1/2-2 acres the deer wipe it out before it gets started. Also, don't let it go wild. At 60 days mow it back to 12-18". It will come right back. If you don't cut it back, the stalks get so big that you can't cut it in and it's really difficult to plant something after it It adds a lot of nutrients to the soil and you can plant a crop after it without having to fertilize
Last edited by ronfromramer; 03/30/15 02:09 PM.
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Re: Sunn Hemp
[Re: ronfromramer]
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03/31/15 03:20 AM
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Dont plant a small plot. If I plant less than 1 1/2-2 acres the deer wipe it out before it gets started. Also, don't let it go wild. At 60 days mow it back to 12-18". It will come right back. If you don't cut it back, the stalks get so big that you can't cut it in and it's really difficult to plant something after it It adds a lot of nutrients to the soil and you can plant a crop after it without having to fertilize This is important to keep in mind if you plant it. When we experimented with it at Auburn, the deer wouldn't touch it once it was mature. By mowing it, you ensure that there is always fresh growth, etc.
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Re: Sunn Hemp
[Re: ronfromramer]
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03/31/15 03:31 AM
03/31/15 03:31 AM
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Yelp softly
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Dont plant a small plot. If I plant less than 1 1/2-2 acres the deer wipe it out before it gets started. I pretty much agree with this. Our fields that were smaller than 1 acre got hammered and all that was left was 12" tall stems everywhere. We did have (2) one acre fields that were close together and one got eaten down while the other made it fine. The thing about sunn hemp is how fast it grows. If you can keep the deer off of it for 2-3 weeks to let it get going, you may be fine. You could always try spreading milorganite around the plot if it's small. Milorganite has been shown to repel deer until the scent wears off. You could also try making a scarecrow out of one of your old sweaty T-shirts to repel them for a few weeks. You don't need to keep the deer away very long to let this stuff get going.
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
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Re: Sunn Hemp
[Re: Steve Ditchkoff]
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03/31/15 03:34 AM
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Dont plant a small plot. If I plant less than 1 1/2-2 acres the deer wipe it out before it gets started. Also, don't let it go wild. At 60 days mow it back to 12-18". It will come right back. If you don't cut it back, the stalks get so big that you can't cut it in and it's really difficult to plant something after it It adds a lot of nutrients to the soil and you can plant a crop after it without having to fertilize This is important to keep in mind if you plant it. When we experimented with it at Auburn, the deer wouldn't touch it once it was mature. By mowing it, you ensure that there is always fresh growth, etc. It does make great rattlesnake habitat however. I think we killed two out of it when harvesting it for nutritional analysis.
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Re: Sunn Hemp
[Re: Squadron77]
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03/31/15 05:43 AM
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What does it cost per acre to plant on average? My soils have a ph of around 6.2 -7.7.
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Re: Sunn Hemp
[Re: billrv]
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03/31/15 05:48 AM
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Yelp softly
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Seed will cost you about $30 per acre. It's $90 for a 50lb bag and the seed rate is 15lb per acre.
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Re: Sunn Hemp
[Re: billrv]
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03/31/15 07:10 AM
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If I try it how often do I need to plan on cutting it back? I see that if left unattended it will grow to 6 foot tall. What height do you cut it and what height do you cut it back?
What I mean is do you wait for it to get to 2 foot tall then cut it back to 8-10"?
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Re: Sunn Hemp
[Re: blumsden]
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04/02/15 11:30 AM
04/02/15 11:30 AM
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Thanks Blumsden
Those sodbuster radishes might work in an old pasture\hayfield we want to plant. We were going to pay someone to run a subsoiler over it, but we might try those giant radishes first.
Has anyone on here planted them?
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Re: Sunn Hemp
[Re: billrv]
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04/02/15 06:57 PM
04/02/15 06:57 PM
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Yelp softly
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I haven't planted them but I was thinking about it in a few of our fields that the loggers recently used as loading docks. The bad part is that the sodbusters radish is a fall crop. This seems to suggest that if you plant them this fall, you won't see the benefit until you terminate the radishes and plant a spring crop. If you're looking for some subsoiler help for your fall food plot, they may not help you much.
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Re: Sunn Hemp
[Re: sumpter_al]
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04/14/15 07:54 AM
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Thanks Blumsden
Those sodbuster radishes might work in an old pasture\hayfield we want to plant. We were going to pay someone to run a subsoiler over it, but we might try those giant radishes first.
Has anyone on here planted them? I've planted them and they do well and the deer love em.
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Re: Sunn Hemp
[Re: perpetualdeermix]
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05/09/15 08:23 AM
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We are doing a lot of research with Sunn Hemp. Recommend planting about 5 lbs/acre of millet or Quail Haven Soy Beans with it. We have also had good reports with people using Milorganite (pelletized human waste fertilizer applied to top of ground at planting time to repel the deer for a couple weeks to help get it established. Do you sell seed or just a researcher? Where you located?
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