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Re: long bow and arrow spine [Re: boker] #1294626
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Not 26#. It's 26". grin Your dementia is acting up again. wink


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Re: long bow and arrow spine [Re: boker] #1294630
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I don't have dementia...what were we talking about????

Wife shoots a longbow, rated 50#@28, she's shooting about 42# at her draw.

That IS a good looking bow...


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Re: long bow and arrow spine [Re: boker] #1294659
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As far as draw weight on a long bow compared to a recurve. Is it easier to pull a long bow

Re: long bow and arrow spine [Re: Fullthrottle] #1294826
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Originally Posted By: Fullthrottle
As far as draw weight on a long bow compared to a recurve. Is it easier to pull a long bow


I don't know that I would agree with that statement. What's your reasoning behind it?

Re: long bow and arrow spine [Re: Fullthrottle] #1294878
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Originally Posted By: Fullthrottle
As far as draw weight on a long bow compared to a recurve. Is it easier to pull a long bow
To answer your question,I can't tell a difference as far as the weight goes,but the shorter recurve bows is a little harder to get used to because of the drastic angle of the string.Also the longer bows are more forgiving.I can also tell you that the straight limb Hill style bows tend to have more hand shock than the newer hybrid R/D bows and are some what slower.I hope this helps.


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Originally Posted By: t123winters
Originally Posted By: Fullthrottle
As far as draw weight on a long bow compared to a recurve. Is it easier to pull a long bow
To answer your question,I can't tell a difference as far as the weight goes,but the shorter recurve bows is a little harder to get used to because of the drastic angle of the string.Also the longer bows are more forgiving.I can also tell you that the straight limb Hill style bows tend to have more hand shock than the newer hybrid R/D bows and are some what slower.I hope this helps.


Yea, string angle can cause a different feel changing the leverage. I guess my question was meant to provoke thought and discussion more than anything.

The lines of longbow and recurve are drastically blurred. We have extreme RD 54" longbows and I shoot a 70" recurve. I was just interested in why someone thought a longbow of the same weight might feel easier to draw than a recurve. String angle and draw force curve was my only guesses but that would depend solely on the particular bow.

Re: long bow and arrow spine [Re: boker] #1294920
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Couple of 20 yard groups from this evening. I'm getting there. smile

I shot these groups split finger. Looks like I'm going to have to ditch the 3 under. Shooting 3 under I'm deadly out to 15 yards. My accuracy goes to crap past that.





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Re: long bow and arrow spine [Re: boker] #1294933
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It's not just the three under that's the problem. Shoot whichever way you prefer but the inconsistency isn't just from 3 under. I have no good idea of what it is without seeing you shoot but the only reason I shoot 3 under is that it makes my gap a lot smaller and easier to estimate sight picture.

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Sonny, try split finger with a high anchor point. I anchor ring finger to corner of my mouth, gets the arra a lil higher, but not as high as three under.


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Re: long bow and arrow spine [Re: R_H_Clark] #1294987
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Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Originally Posted By: Fullthrottle
As far as draw weight on a long bow compared to a recurve. Is it easier to pull a long bow


I don't know that I would agree with that statement. What's your reasoning behind it?



That was a question, not a statement

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The first couple of groups I shot split finger I was hitting higher. After I got used to it I tried a few shots 3 under again and was hitting low. Go figure. crazy


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Re: long bow and arrow spine [Re: Fullthrottle] #1295025
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Originally Posted By: Fullthrottle
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As far as draw weight on a long bow compared to a recurve. Is it easier to pull a long bow


I don't know that I would agree with that statement. What's your reasoning behind it?



That was a question, not a statement


Sorry friend.
It all depends on the bow. If the limbs are designed in such a way that they unfold and give a shallower string angle then the increase of pounds per inch is generally less. This causes the bow to feel lighter and smoother. IE, a bow that increases 2 lbs per inch the last few inches of draw will feel better than one that increases 4 lbs per inch.

Also one that has less initial draw weight will feel lighter but won't be quite as fast as one that starts with a higher draw weight.

As I mentioned in my other post, there are so many different lengths and variations of design in both longbow and recurve that it is difficult to say any one will feel lighter or smoother than the other. Also how a particular design feels depends a lot on your draw length.

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Originally Posted By: Shaw
The first couple of groups I shot split finger I was hitting higher. After I got used to it I tried a few shots 3 under again and was hitting low. Go figure. crazy


That's exactly why I shoot three under. It is all about the sight picture. I don't use my arrow tip as a sight or try to put my point on anything as an aiming point. When I use 3 under though I can see my arrow tip on my peripheral vision. With split that point is somewhere on the ground half way to the target. With 3 under that tip is a lot closer to the target it'self, usually just under it. When my arrow tip is closer to the aiming point, it is a lot easier to align it left and right or guess the right hold over or under.

I don't consciously place the tip anywhere or even think about it at the shot but it just makes a repeatable sight picture easier to maintain.

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