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Re: Summer Plot - Throw and Mow
[Re: Joe4majors]
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02/24/15 09:14 AM
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I've had decent germination with soybeans, but they are quite a bit larger seed, than pea's. Having a good layer of thatch, is vital.
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Re: Summer Plot - Throw and Mow
[Re: Joe4majors]
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02/24/15 10:36 AM
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CNC
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In these smaller plots like the one you are dealing with…..things like peas, beans, sunflowers, etc. are likley just going to be decimated by the deer before they every really get going good. It will end up being a very small, short term snack for them that serves you no real purpose. With these small plots you can also throw out the idea that you are planting stuff to “help” the deer herd. What you can accomplish though is attraction and conditioning the deer in your area to use the plot 365 days out of the year. I would look to do this in the summer time mostly through the use of clovers. Given the right conditions, clovers such as durana can persist for most of the summer. These will do best though planted in the fall. This is my throw and mow test plot as of yesterday. You can see all of the clover that’s present in the mix. I’ll let this clover take me through the summer as long as it will. However, around the end of May when my cereal rye matures and goes to seed, I’m going to broadcast some buckwheat and maybe some radishes into the standing rye and then mow it down over the seed. The idea is that the buckwheat and brassicas will fill in the gaps left by the terminated rye and this will take me through the end of the summer. It may sound odd but I’m actually hoping that crabgrass eventually encroaches on my field enough to give me a grass component to the mix for the purpose of adding more carbon back to the soil as well as being a source of thatch for next year's fall planting.
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We dont rent pigs
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Re: Summer Plot - Throw and Mow
[Re: Joe4majors]
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02/24/15 10:46 AM
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You can try and plant some iron clay peas with a mixture of milo or soybean. My plots aren't big but if you can give them a fighting chance the deer will eat them all summer. If you put a deterrent on them you may have a chance.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Summer Plot - Throw and Mow
[Re: CNC]
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02/24/15 03:33 PM
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Joe4majors
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Ll In these smaller plots like the one you are dealing with…..things like peas, beans, sunflowers, etc. are likley just going to be decimated by the deer before they every really get going good. I suppose some sort of electric fence would be useless? And yes, the idea would be of keeping deer on the property more than helping the herd.
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Re: Summer Plot - Throw and Mow
[Re: Joe4majors]
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02/24/15 03:56 PM
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CNC
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I suppose some sort of electric fence would be useless?
E-fence set-up seems to work great for folks who only have one or two small plots. If you want to invest in one that will change the whole game for your summer plantings.
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We dont rent pigs
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Re: Summer Plot - Throw and Mow
[Re: Joe4majors]
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02/24/15 04:57 PM
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A 2 row fence set-up has been proven to keep deer out better than any other fencing system besides a high fence. The premise is that deer have very poor depth perception. Because they can't tell exactly how far away the 2nd row of fencing is, they're too afraid to try and jump it. Someone wrote that deer can jump high, or they can jump far, but they can't jump high and far. I will be trying this if I ever decide to plant corn or beans again. http://anr.ext.wvu.edu/r/download/51669
"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."
"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
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Re: Summer Plot - Throw and Mow
[Re: Joe4majors]
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02/25/15 03:21 PM
02/25/15 03:21 PM
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CNC
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What would you say is the minimum number of acres that wouldn't get browsed to death? It really just depends on the amount of deer using the plot as well as the quality of the surrounding habitat. Small one acre plots of peas, sunflowers, etc...tend to not be able to keep up in the vast majority of situations. In higher deer density areas even 3-4 acre fields still get decimated.
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We dont rent pigs
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Re: Summer Plot - Throw and Mow
[Re: Joe4majors]
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02/25/15 03:52 PM
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I only have 1 3/4 acres of fields on my 40 acres and if I can get my iron and clay peas up good they will last till October. I have about 10-13 deer using my property regularly.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Summer Plot - Throw and Mow
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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02/25/15 04:08 PM
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I only have 1 3/4 acres of fields on my 40 acres and if I can get my iron and clay peas up good they will last till October. I have about 10-13 deer using my property regularly. I like the sound of that.
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Re: Summer Plot - Throw and Mow
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04/19/20 08:20 PM
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I'm going to try Buckwheat and Iron Clay Peas on a few throw and mow spots. I sprayed behind my house last weekend and it's good and dead now. Will bush hog it on Tuesday or Wednesday when I get home from work if the Thursday rain forecast still holds up. I sprayed at my lease in Fayette County this weekend so it will be ready to go by this weekend but won't be able to get to it until the following week
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Re: Summer Plot - Throw and Mow
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04/19/20 10:28 PM
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I'm going to try Buckwheat and Iron Clay Peas on a few throw and mow spots. I sprayed behind my house last weekend and it's good and dead now. Will bush hog it on Tuesday or Wednesday when I get home from work if the Thursday rain forecast still holds up. I sprayed at my lease in Fayette County this weekend so it will be ready to go by this weekend but won't be able to get to it until the following week Digging a little deep into the ALDEER archives huh?
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Re: Summer Plot - Throw and Mow
[Re: Joe4majors]
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04/20/20 12:36 PM
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Phil_Army
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Yes sir! This place is a wealth of information lol
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Re: Summer Plot - Throw and Mow
[Re: Turkey_neck]
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04/21/20 10:25 PM
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Only $23 per bag at the co-op. Going to try throw and mow at my house and then one spot at my lease in Fayette. If it doesn't turn out good then I only wasted a little bit of time and a little bit of money
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Re: Summer Plot - Throw and Mow
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04/23/20 07:00 AM
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Turkey_neck
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Blum soybeans normally do fine at my house until the deer get them
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Summer Plot - Throw and Mow
[Re: mdf]
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04/24/20 01:11 PM
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Phil which co op did you get your seed from. No one carries that mix in North Bama that I can find I got this from the Northport co-op
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Re: Summer Plot - Throw and Mow
[Re: Joe4majors]
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04/24/20 03:03 PM
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Call Clemons and hammer seed over in killen AL. Tell them what you want. Theyll blend it if they have the seeds on hand right now.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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