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Hardwood cutover ages.
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I love the first couple of years because of being able to see them fairly easy. When they get to the 4-8 range it get's tough and the sight picture gets narrowed way down to openings and hill sides etc but the deer really love this for the security.The older cutovers that are beginning to open back up a little is where a majority of my hunting is done now. The trees are in the 15 to 25 foot range and a lot of the undergrowth is dying out and the deer seem to prefer this a lot less.I said all this to ask at what age will the oaks in the cutovers begin to produce acorns again?
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Re: Hardwood cutover ages.
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01/30/15 04:13 AM
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Idk about the age they produce oaks, but I love to hunt cutover that are in that 4-8 range. The reason is exactly like you stated. That is the time that deer enjoy them the most, they have the most browse and the most cover. The key is being able to hunt it. I'd advise setting a stand first. Pick the location where you can cover the se side of the hill, without the sun in your eyes. Then take these next two months before green up and go clear lanes. A heavy duty bush hog is wonderful, but I've used a chainsaw and machete the most. Clear them as long and straight as you can. Look back at your stand for reference. They don't have to be wide. The more the better. Make a turkey foot out in it. or more. I killed a big one in a section of club a few years ago that no one hunted. When I signed the deer out, no one believed me. They said it was too thick to hunt. I went in there with a handsaw and machete, two weeks before the rut, and cleared a 150yd ln. brought a bucket in, and killed that 10pt about an hour after daylight the first time I sat there.
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Re: Hardwood cutover ages.
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Idk about the age they produce oaks, but I love to hunt cutover that are in that 4-8 range. The reason is exactly like you stated. That is the time that deer enjoy them the most, they have the most browse and the most cover. The key is being able to hunt it. I'd advise setting a stand first. Pick the location where you can cover the se side of the hill, without the sun in your eyes. Then take these next two months before green up and go clear lanes. A heavy duty bush hog is wonderful, but I've used a chainsaw and machete the most. Clear them as long and straight as you can. Look back at your stand for reference. They don't have to be wide. The more the better. Make a turkey foot out in it. or more. I killed a big one in a section of club a few years ago that no one hunted. When I signed the deer out, no one believed me. They said it was too thick to hunt. I went in there with a handsaw and machete, two weeks before the rut, and cleared a 150yd ln. brought a bucket in, and killed that 10pt about an hour after daylight the first time I sat there. Yep that's the way I've been operating in the past but now they are in the 8-12 yr range and the hunting has been on a downward spiral the last few years.
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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Re: Hardwood cutover ages.
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01/30/15 04:47 AM
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Idk about the age they produce oaks, but I love to hunt cutover that are in that 4-8 range. The reason is exactly like you stated. That is the time that deer enjoy them the most, they have the most browse and the most cover. The key is being able to hunt it. I'd advise setting a stand first. Pick the location where you can cover the se side of the hill, without the sun in your eyes. Then take these next two months before green up and go clear lanes. A heavy duty bush hog is wonderful, but I've used a chainsaw and machete the most. Clear them as long and straight as you can. Look back at your stand for reference. They don't have to be wide. The more the better. Make a turkey foot out in it. or more. I killed a big one in a section of club a few years ago that no one hunted. When I signed the deer out, no one believed me. They said it was too thick to hunt. I went in there with a handsaw and machete, two weeks before the rut, and cleared a 150yd ln. brought a bucket in, and killed that 10pt about an hour after daylight the first time I sat there. Yep that's the way I've been operating in the past but now they are in the 8-12 yr range and the hunting has been on a downward spiral the last few years. Is it natural regrowth clearcut? What is the makeup of the terrain around it? Typically overgrown clearcut is still pretty thick at 8-10 if its not replanted. Did the sign dissappear? or just the sightings?
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Re: Hardwood cutover ages.
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Natural regrowth without any burning. The undergrowth has began dying out due to shading I assume.
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Re: Hardwood cutover ages.
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Idk about the age they produce oaks, but I love to hunt cutover that are in that 4-8 range. The reason is exactly like you stated. That is the time that deer enjoy them the most, they have the most browse and the most cover. The key is being able to hunt it. I'd advise setting a stand first. Pick the location where you can cover the se side of the hill, without the sun in your eyes. Then take these next two months before green up and go clear lanes. A heavy duty bush hog is wonderful, but I've used a chainsaw and machete the most. Clear them as long and straight as you can. Look back at your stand for reference. They don't have to be wide. The more the better. Make a turkey foot out in it. or more. I killed a big one in a section of club a few years ago that no one hunted. When I signed the deer out, no one believed me. They said it was too thick to hunt. I went in there with a handsaw and machete, two weeks before the rut, and cleared a 150yd ln. brought a bucket in, and killed that 10pt about an hour after daylight the first time I sat there. Yep that's the way I've been operating in the past but now they are in the 8-12 yr range and the hunting has been on a downward spiral the last few years. After about 6 years it starts making a canopy with less browse each year . Run a fire through it and it'll be back like year 2 again.
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Re: Hardwood cutover ages.
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Idk about the age they produce oaks, but I love to hunt cutover that are in that 4-8 range. The reason is exactly like you stated. That is the time that deer enjoy them the most, they have the most browse and the most cover. The key is being able to hunt it. I'd advise setting a stand first. Pick the location where you can cover the se side of the hill, without the sun in your eyes. Then take these next two months before green up and go clear lanes. A heavy duty bush hog is wonderful, but I've used a chainsaw and machete the most. Clear them as long and straight as you can. Look back at your stand for reference. They don't have to be wide. The more the better. Make a turkey foot out in it. or more. I killed a big one in a section of club a few years ago that no one hunted. When I signed the deer out, no one believed me. They said it was too thick to hunt. I went in there with a handsaw and machete, two weeks before the rut, and cleared a 150yd ln. brought a bucket in, and killed that 10pt about an hour after daylight the first time I sat there. Yep that's the way I've been operating in the past but now they are in the 8-12 yr range and the hunting has been on a downward spiral the last few years. After about 6 years it starts making a canopy with less browse each year . Run a fire through it and it'll be back like year 2 again. Must be different in the mountains, our stuff in south and central bama, the trees stay to sparse to shade out the briars.
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Re: Hardwood cutover ages.
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Idk about the age they produce oaks, but I love to hunt cutover that are in that 4-8 range. The reason is exactly like you stated. That is the time that deer enjoy them the most, they have the most browse and the most cover. The key is being able to hunt it. I'd advise setting a stand first. Pick the location where you can cover the se side of the hill, without the sun in your eyes. Then take these next two months before green up and go clear lanes. A heavy duty bush hog is wonderful, but I've used a chainsaw and machete the most. Clear them as long and straight as you can. Look back at your stand for reference. They don't have to be wide. The more the better. Make a turkey foot out in it. or more. I killed a big one in a section of club a few years ago that no one hunted. When I signed the deer out, no one believed me. They said it was too thick to hunt. I went in there with a handsaw and machete, two weeks before the rut, and cleared a 150yd ln. brought a bucket in, and killed that 10pt about an hour after daylight the first time I sat there. Yep that's the way I've been operating in the past but now they are in the 8-12 yr range and the hunting has been on a downward spiral the last few years. After about 6 years it starts making a canopy with less browse each year . Run a fire through it and it'll be back like year 2 again. I wish I could but out of the question due to landowners view.
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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Re: Hardwood cutover ages.
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01/30/15 05:03 AM
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Idk about the age they produce oaks, but I love to hunt cutover that are in that 4-8 range. The reason is exactly like you stated. That is the time that deer enjoy them the most, they have the most browse and the most cover. The key is being able to hunt it. I'd advise setting a stand first. Pick the location where you can cover the se side of the hill, without the sun in your eyes. Then take these next two months before green up and go clear lanes. A heavy duty bush hog is wonderful, but I've used a chainsaw and machete the most. Clear them as long and straight as you can. Look back at your stand for reference. They don't have to be wide. The more the better. Make a turkey foot out in it. or more. I killed a big one in a section of club a few years ago that no one hunted. When I signed the deer out, no one believed me. They said it was too thick to hunt. I went in there with a handsaw and machete, two weeks before the rut, and cleared a 150yd ln. brought a bucket in, and killed that 10pt about an hour after daylight the first time I sat there. Yep that's the way I've been operating in the past but now they are in the 8-12 yr range and the hunting has been on a downward spiral the last few years. After about 6 years it starts making a canopy with less browse each year . Run a fire through it and it'll be back like year 2 again. Must be different in the mountains, our stuff in south and central bama, the trees stay to sparse to shade out the briars. Hardwood?
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Re: Hardwood cutover ages.
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01/30/15 05:10 AM
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Idk about the age they produce oaks, but I love to hunt cutover that are in that 4-8 range. The reason is exactly like you stated. That is the time that deer enjoy them the most, they have the most browse and the most cover. The key is being able to hunt it. I'd advise setting a stand first. Pick the location where you can cover the se side of the hill, without the sun in your eyes. Then take these next two months before green up and go clear lanes. A heavy duty bush hog is wonderful, but I've used a chainsaw and machete the most. Clear them as long and straight as you can. Look back at your stand for reference. They don't have to be wide. The more the better. Make a turkey foot out in it. or more. I killed a big one in a section of club a few years ago that no one hunted. When I signed the deer out, no one believed me. They said it was too thick to hunt. I went in there with a handsaw and machete, two weeks before the rut, and cleared a 150yd ln. brought a bucket in, and killed that 10pt about an hour after daylight the first time I sat there. Yep that's the way I've been operating in the past but now they are in the 8-12 yr range and the hunting has been on a downward spiral the last few years. After about 6 years it starts making a canopy with less browse each year . Run a fire through it and it'll be back like year 2 again. I wish I could but out of the question due to landowners view. Got ya. I burn about 15 acres now, would like to do 15-30 more. Fire good! But to your question, the areas we had cut hard , we only cut the poplar, gum, hickory and such really small. The oaks were held at a larger diameter to give them a jump start. They drop acorns in that thick stuff. If it was cut all merchable timber, (clear cut) I have no idea how long it would take. I really don't know why folks do that anyway . 
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Re: Hardwood cutover ages.
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It was raped like you've never seen even the hollows are cut out. They went along the brow dropping trees and were able to get half out depending on how they fell etc.Tops left all in existing roads.
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Re: Hardwood cutover ages.
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I have a 5 -6 y/o cutover at my property and the harwoods that regrew from stumps, already have acorns on them, this past year. I hope to run a fire thru some of mine this year. What kind of oaks are they?
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Re: Hardwood cutover ages.
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01/30/15 06:38 AM
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One of my places was cut over about 20 yrs ago and a LOT of white oaks re-sprouted from the stumps and have been dropping for a while. No telling how old the roots are.
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Re: Hardwood cutover ages.
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The ones i found were mountain (chestnut)oaks. It surprised me to find them, but the forester that was over cutting the timber, told me that they would produce earlier, sprouting from a stump. I have native persimmon tree's doing the same thing. I have a few persimmons that are bout half dollar size that are loaded about every year. 
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