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Dogs, Snakes, and Running Around in the Woods
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01/28/15 04:09 AM
01/28/15 04:09 AM
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Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 7,899 Huntsville AL
Rocket62
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A question for folks experienced with dogs in the woods ...
My wife and I put down a deposit on a field bred English Springer Spaniel and we are to pick him up the first week of march. I spend a great deal of time in the woods during all seasons of the year and I want him to accompany me when I go. I've got all sorts of training plans; I've collected 26 deer hooves and 12 bottles of deer blood to use in training him to track a wounded deer, I want to train him to squirrel hunt, I hope that he can alert me of snakes in the area too.
Anyway my concern is for his safety with the snakes. I've never had a dog like this and I don't really know what to expect. Do I need to worry about him getting bitten? Will he instinctively know to keep his distance? What should I do if he does get bitten? The places I go are infested with rattlers, copperheads, and cottonmouths. I know they are there because I've killed a bunch of them ...
Thoughts?
I don't want to pass quietly into the night. I want to slide in sideways kickin and screamin Life really is awesome ... Soak it up while you can ...
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Re: Dogs, Snakes, and Running Around in the Woods
[Re: Rocket62]
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01/28/15 05:12 AM
01/28/15 05:12 AM
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Hopefully the first couple he encounters will be bad tempered non-poisonous snakes. Once they strike at him a couple of times he will learn how to deal with them. A dumb puppy running up on a large venomous snake is a bad recipe. If bitten follow the above advice, get him to a vet.
"Make a difference, take a kid hunting".
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Re: Dogs, Snakes, and Running Around in the Woods
[Re: Rocket62]
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01/28/15 05:14 AM
01/28/15 05:14 AM
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Rocket62
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Maybe not a bad idea to catch a garter or black racer for him to learn on ... They can have nasty attitudes
I don't want to pass quietly into the night. I want to slide in sideways kickin and screamin Life really is awesome ... Soak it up while you can ...
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Re: Dogs, Snakes, and Running Around in the Woods
[Re: odocoileus]
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01/28/15 05:46 AM
01/28/15 05:46 AM
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Unfortunately he succumbed to what gets all boxers, the big C. I'm sorry to hear that ... we lost two to "the big C" this year so I feel your pain
I don't want to pass quietly into the night. I want to slide in sideways kickin and screamin Life really is awesome ... Soak it up while you can ...
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Re: Dogs, Snakes, and Running Around in the Woods
[Re: Tambo252]
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01/28/15 07:04 AM
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As a Vet Tech in my former life, I have to say about the only thing you can do is administer Benadryl and get them to the Vet for fluids, steroids and antibiotics. Our Lab was bitten on the nose by a copperhead summer before last. She got a good dose of venom but the Benadryl really helped cut down her response to it. Same way with one my omc's, he got bit on the head and vet told me give benadryl and she was not available. His head got big as a basketball but he made it! I found him and my pup with a timber rattler earlier this year and both were maintaining a 6 foot distance until I shot the snake. He learned something from the previous encounter. If you train with non venomous, you might consider shock collar.
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Re: Dogs, Snakes, and Running Around in the Woods
[Re: oakachoy]
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01/28/15 07:06 AM
01/28/15 07:06 AM
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If you train with non venomous, you might consider shock collar. Thats a great idea, pop him when he gets hit
I don't want to pass quietly into the night. I want to slide in sideways kickin and screamin Life really is awesome ... Soak it up while you can ...
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Re: Dogs, Snakes, and Running Around in the Woods
[Re: Frankie]
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01/28/15 07:10 AM
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imo ,,, bout all you can do is worry about it happening . i ran around with a small dog a big snake could've ate almost for almost 15 years . snakes bites did cross my mind . only time he got in a fix was when a turkey hen ran over him . Please elaborate!! A turkey hen got after your dog?
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Re: Dogs, Snakes, and Running Around in the Woods
[Re: Bamabucks14]
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01/28/15 07:19 AM
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imo ,,, bout all you can do is worry about it happening . i ran around with a small dog a big snake could've ate almost for almost 15 years . snakes bites did cross my mind . only time he got in a fix was when a turkey hen ran over him . Please elaborate!! A turkey hen got after your dog? lol ,, we came up on a hen with just hatched little ones . the hen just eased done to the ground, she thought she was hidden and we didn't see her . dingo did see her and ease down to where she was at . when he got a few feet from her she just ran over him dragging a wing . i like to have hurt myself that day laughing . the look on dingo was , what the hell !!!! i mean she rolled him . lol
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Re: Dogs, Snakes, and Running Around in the Woods
[Re: Frankie]
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01/28/15 07:27 AM
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imo ,,, bout all you can do is worry about it happening . i ran around with a small dog a big snake could've ate almost for almost 15 years . snakes bites did cross my mind . only time he got in a fix was when a turkey hen ran over him . Please elaborate!! A turkey hen got after your dog? lol ,, we came up on a hen with just hatched little ones . the hen just eased done to the ground, she thought she was hidden and we didn't see her . dingo did see her and ease down to where she was at . when he got a few feet from her she just ran over him dragging a wing . i like to have hurt myself that day laughing . the look on dingo was , what the hell !!!! i mean she rolled him . lol I ain't gonna lie...I wouldn't mind seeing that. LOL Poor Dingo!
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Re: Dogs, Snakes, and Running Around in the Woods
[Re: Rocket62]
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01/28/15 07:49 AM
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Thanks, squirrels would be nice but my main desire was to teach him to track wounded deer.
I don't want to pass quietly into the night. I want to slide in sideways kickin and screamin Life really is awesome ... Soak it up while you can ...
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