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Coyote Impact on Deer #1241119
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State game department to study coyote impact on deer


The only good coyote to study is a dead one. What are your thoughts.

Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: mdcart] #1241143
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Interesting. Looks like we need to hit them in June and July before the fawns start dropping in August and September.


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Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: mdcart] #1241242
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I think the coyotes effect the deer population more than some think.


Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: mdcart] #1241288
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I talked to a biologist about having an effect on coyotes, and he told me that, I would have to hunt coyotes harder than I hunt deer, to make an impact on their population. He also said the biggest problem for predation of young deer and fawns is local dogs.
He went on to explain that coyotes kill to survive, and will consume the entire kill. Where local dogs kill for sport and fun, they may eat some of the kill but mostly play with it, and then go try to find something else they can chase, because they are getting fed by their owners.
I wish AL would put a bounty on them like some counties in the State of Texas. http://texassportsmansassociation.org/coyote.htm
The main reason they have these types of bounties is because of the goat and sheep farming, but I have hunted places in Texas where coyotes or bobcats were not to be found, because of the bounty.

Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: n2deer] #1241296
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Originally Posted By: n2deer
I think the coyotes effect the deer population more than some think.



Shoot coyote so it will run off and be weak. the rest of the pack will kill him and eat him. Keep em away from your deer two ways...

Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: mdcart] #1241535
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+1 for the bounty idea. I bet they would raise the license fees to pay for it though.


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Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: JohnGibby] #1241539
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Originally Posted By: JohnGibby
Interesting. Looks like we need to hit them in June and July before the fawns start dropping in August and September.


and when they have pups . i have no problem with the pups starving .

Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: Austin_243] #1241545
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Originally Posted By: Austin_243



Shoot coyote so it will run off and be weak. the rest of the pack will kill him and eat him. Keep em away from your deer two ways...


No

Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: mdcart] #1241554
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Dogs are a huge problem but nobody wants to get into that.

Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: mdcart] #1241558
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You also have to take some things biologists say with a little skepticism. Just about every study done will have another study done a few years later that contradicts it. There are biologists that post here that have said in the past that you can never shoot too many does. Most would disagree with that now as well.

Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: mdcart] #1241561
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I have no doubt coyotes have a significant impact on the deer population and I also have no doubt that all the hunting in the world won't curb the coyote numbers. A statewide trapping effort would be the main effective method of controlling their numbers.


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Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: mdcart] #1241572
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Just a personal observation here.I have lived in Kansas and Texas.These two states had and still have large coyote populations..They had them long before we ever had them in Alabama.Both states have enviable wild game populations.Kansas has a great deer herd and more game birds and game bird species than we will ever have.


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Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: Austin_243] #1241578
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Originally Posted By: Austin_243
Originally Posted By: n2deer
I think the coyotes effect the deer population more than some think.



Shoot coyote so it will run off and be weak. the rest of the pack will kill him and eat him. Keep em away from your deer two ways...


rofl I'll put that on my bucket list.

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Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: mdcart] #1241588
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I bet coyotes have less of an impact on the deer population in AL than most think.


83% of all statistics are made up.

Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: mdcart] #1241605
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We see a ton of coyotes and shoot everyone one we can. We still have very high deer numbers

Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: N2TRKYS] #1241624
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
I bet coyotes have less of an impact on the deer population in AL than most think.


I bet they have more of an impact than you think.

Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: mdcart] #1241629
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I had 2 does, on 1 camera the first week of bow season. One had 2 twin fawns, the other a single fawn. I got pictures every day for a week, then 1 picture of a coyote. No deer for 3 days, then, the doe with twin fawns came back and only had 1 fawn. The other doe returned with zero fawns. The fawns never showed back up, so I assume the yote caught them. Other than deer, I think they deplete the rabbit population. I used to see 8 or 10 rabbits every morning driving in before daylight. Now that coyotes are everywhere, I might see 3 rabbits all deer season driving into the lease, and hardly ever see rabbit turds in the pine rows anymore.

Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: mirage243] #1241646
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Originally Posted By: mirage243
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
I bet coyotes have less of an impact on the deer population in AL than most think.


I bet they have more of an impact than you think.


I bet it depends on your habitat.


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Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: mdcart] #1241700
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A buddy owns land in illionis. His neighbor that joins his proptery said he found a coyote den on his place and put a camera on it. He claims the coyote brought a fawn a day in the den for 12 days in a row. Then pics of pups coming out of den before he killed em. Now this is just what he told me so I don't know how true it is.


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Re: Coyote Impact on Deer [Re: mirage243] #1241710
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Originally Posted By: mirage243
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
I bet coyotes have less of an impact on the deer population in AL than most think.


I bet they have more of an impact than you think.


x2 Almost every night I get a pic of 2-3 yotes cruising through. Ive also had 2 fawns go missing this year. Yotes get the blame from me.

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