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Re: Training a tracking dog [Re: StateLine] #1208291
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Pretty good idea pab. I will probably try that. I remember now that brother in law used to have a walker deer dog that wouldn't bark too much when running so he put a cowbell on her. If you heard that bell you better be looking.

Re: Training a tracking dog [Re: StateLine] #1208722
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IF you use a leash , make it a 50 foot tracking lead, not a short six footer. You can let go of it and move around stuff to pick the lead up again. Put a bell and some orange on the dog.


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Re: Training a tracking dog [Re: StateLine] #1212872
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Re: Training a tracking dog [Re: StateLine] #1222869
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ive trained 20-30 deer dogs, and i have used them for tracking too, but how do you keep your tracking dogs from running a deer?


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Re: Training a tracking dog [Re: StateLine] #1223094
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In all the trails that I have been on over the last 10 years I have never had a dog run a healthy deer. If you train them to blood trail this want happen.

Re: Training a tracking dog [Re: globe] #1243996
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Originally Posted By: globe
ive trained 20-30 deer dogs, and i have used them for tracking too, but how do you keep your tracking dogs from running a deer?
One of the methods I use to train a pup to discriminate is by laying the training track late in the afternoon on the edge of a field that you know deer will visit during the night. In the morning if the pup tries to follow a healthy/hot track into the woods or out into the field, then just give it a firm correction. It won't take long for it to get the message. A dog that messes with healthy deer can never make a serious tracker.

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Re: Training a tracking dog [Re: StateLine] #1246078
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I was fortunate with my lab. She went with me to go get a big boar I shot one morning. I had already seen the hog was dead but When we walked into where he hog had ran and left a decent blood trail the nose went down further and the tail came up more. She's been ready to go ever since. She's tracked several deer and hogs since then. I Used to keep her on lease but now I let her off when she's working.

Re: Training a tracking dog [Re: StateLine] #1254074
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I've got an English Springer Spaniel (field bred) coming in a few weeks, he will be 7 weeks old. Here is how I plan on training him, based on what I've read over the past few months.

FEEDBACK FROM THOSE WITH EXPERIENCE WOULD BE APPRECIATED HERE AS I AM NEW TO THIS :

- I have 14 vials of deer blood I took during deer season. They are in my deep freeze

- I've got 26 deer hooves (below knee down) frozen

First I plan on thawing a hoof or two and letting him play with them ... getting him accustomed to the word 'deer' being used to refer to them.

Next I'll use the hooves to teach him retrieval skills. I toss it, he returns it to me ... "Get the deer Charlie!"

After he's got all that down I'll start hiding the hooves then drop a few drops of blood every 5 yards or so in a trail to the hoof. The put some blood on a clean cloth and let him smell it. "Get the deer Charlie!". Lead him to the first drops in the trail then the rest if I need to. When he gets to the end of the trail he gets rewarded with the hoof. I'll let him gnaw on it and play with it for a while.

As he gets accustomed to finding the blood spots and ending up with the hoof I'll start putting the blood spots farther and farther apart ... again "Get the deer Charlie!"

Hopefully that's all I'll need to do, like I said FEEDBACK WILL BE APPRECIATED if you have experience doing this type of training



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Re: Training a tracking dog [Re: BlackPrarieHunte] #1254078
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Originally Posted By: BlackPrarieHunte
Read the book "Tracking Dogs for Finding Wounded Deer", it will tell you everything you need to know and more.

For this season you need to keep lots of blood and hides. I would take the puppy with me and let him get fired up about finding the deer as well.

http://www.born-to-track.com/book/order-info.htm


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Re: Training a tracking dog [Re: StateLine] #1254172
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Mr. John is a friend & he is just finishing up the third edition of his book & it will be available very soon. it will have all the info of the previous books, plus. I have an extra copy of one of the first editions that always fell apart, but it is autographed so I will keep it.

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Re: Training a tracking dog [Re: Rocket62] #1254361
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Originally Posted By: Rocket62
Originally Posted By: BlackPrarieHunte
Read the book "Tracking Dogs for Finding Wounded Deer", it will tell you everything you need to know and more.

For this season you need to keep lots of blood and hides. I would take the puppy with me and let him get fired up about finding the deer as well.

http://www.born-to-track.com/book/order-info.htm


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Paul, I have the book, you can borrow it.


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Re: Training a tracking dog [Re: StateLine] #1254364
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3rd edition comes out this spring,

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Try www.thriftbooks.com they may not have it but they usually have a bunch cheap.

Re: Training a tracking dog [Re: StateLine] #1266280
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We are hosting a 2 day tracking seminar near Macon, Ga. around the middle of May. I will get back with more specifics after our planner's/instructor's meeting around the first of March.

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Originally Posted By: trackncur
We are hosting a 2 day tracking seminar near Macon, Ga. around the middle of May. I will get back with more specifics after our planner's/instructor's meeting around the first of March.


I'm interested ... Who is "we"?




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Re: Training a tracking dog [Re: trackncur] #1267429
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Originally Posted By: trackncur
We are hosting a 2 day tracking seminar near Macon, Ga. around the middle of May. I will get back with more specifics after our planner's/instructor's meeting around the first of March.


I'm interested as well......


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Re: Training a tracking dog [Re: Rocket62] #1267881
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Originally Posted By: Rocket62
Originally Posted By: trackncur
We are hosting a 2 day tracking seminar near Macon, Ga. around the middle of May. I will get back with more specifics after our planner's/instructor's meeting around the first of March.


I'm interested ... Who is "we"?
Sorry, We are a network of mostly Ga. based trackers. This event will be headed by Jerry Russell. Most of us are United Blood Trackers members who couldn't make it to Track-Fest in Texas this year. Should be a good time & lots of great info, tho we won't be doing any certifications, we will have tracks laid.

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