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Re: Spin off from 3 buck limit thread....
[Re: bigt]
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01/01/15 07:14 AM
01/01/15 07:14 AM
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Frankie
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Old Mossy Horns
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i mean having more deer aint that hard of a thing . it just takes a little work and trigger control . why do some have to have a nanny holding their hand ???? Frankie how about trying to tell that to my neighbors....I would appreciate it what can i say i let deer go all the time that only get killed next door . i don't see my rights being more important than thiers .
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Re: Spin off from 3 buck limit thread....
[Re: Frankie]
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01/01/15 07:32 AM
01/01/15 07:32 AM
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bigt
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i mean having more deer aint that hard of a thing . it just takes a little work and trigger control . why do some have to have a nanny holding their hand ???? Frankie how about trying to tell that to my neighbors....I would appreciate it what can i say i let deer go all the time that only get killed next door . i don't see my rights being more important than thiers . I have killed a total of one deer in over a decade off my personal property so I know a lot about letting deer walk and others kill them too. I just don't not see rules and regulations as a nanny state. There always have been and always will be rules and regulations and there needs to be. The limits in this state has changed numerous times over the years and just because someone doesn't like them definitely does not mean their rights have been violated.
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Re: Spin off from 3 buck limit thread....
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01/01/15 08:51 AM
01/01/15 08:51 AM
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ikillbux
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ishootatbux
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There are as many MATURE bucks in AL's population as any other state. Having hunted a couple of Midwestern states several times, there are no more mature deer to see and hunt than there are here. I'd actually be willing to bet if you looked at the population as a whole in our state vs most Midwestern states we would have a higher number of mature bucks. They have lower populations, a much higher winter mortality, and their annual harvests, just like what jlcoffee posted, has an incredibly high number of immature deer killed. AL does not produce HUGE deer like the Midwest, and it never will, regardless of antler regs, or annual bag limits. It's just a FACT. (Where's the clapping emoji??)
Last edited by ikillbux; 01/01/15 08:51 AM.
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Re: Spin off from 3 buck limit thread....
[Re: Frankie]
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01/01/15 10:00 AM
01/01/15 10:00 AM
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bigt
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it does when it restricts me from doing what i need to do. why didn't they just restrict doe harvest where it was needed. That's a good question....
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Re: Spin off from 3 buck limit thread....
[Re: Surefire1911]
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01/01/15 10:54 AM
01/01/15 10:54 AM
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CNC
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What does everyone think the limit should be overall including season length . I think 2 buck and 2 doe. Season stays the same length but archery only untill January . What say you?? I haven't read all of the replies but answering the original question from the OP.....I think at some point our regulations need to take into consideration the steady decrease in the number of hunters. If the trend continues then there is really no need in having strict regulations on the remaining hunters. If we go from having 250,000 hunters down to 130,000-140,000 maybe eventually down to 110,000.....then why impose more regulations on the ones who are left?
Last edited by CNC; 01/01/15 10:55 AM.
The Corn Crash!!!
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Re: Spin off from 3 buck limit thread....
[Re: CNC]
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01/01/15 11:05 AM
01/01/15 11:05 AM
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mike35549
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What does everyone think the limit should be overall including season length . I think 2 buck and 2 doe. Season stays the same length but archery only untill January . What say you?? I haven't read all of the replies but answering the original question from the OP.....I think at some point our regulations need to take into consideration the steady decrease in the number of hunters. If the trend continues then there is really no need in having strict regulations on the remaining hunters. If we go from having 250,000 hunters down to 130,000-140,000 maybe eventually down to 110,000.....then why impose more regulations on the ones who are left? Do you have any stats that show the decrease in deer hunters in Alabama over the last 10 years of so. I looked and could not find any official stats from the state on number deer hunting liscence sold.
Last edited by mike35549; 01/01/15 11:07 AM.
If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
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Re: Spin off from 3 buck limit thread....
[Re: mike35549]
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01/01/15 11:26 AM
01/01/15 11:26 AM
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Do you have any stats that show the decrease in deer hunters in Alabama over the last 10 years of so. I looked and could not find any official stats from the state on number deer hunting liscence sold. Here are the stats for all states from the Federal Fish and Wildlife Service. Not sure where they got their last 3 years' numbers from, because they're skewed way high compared to the previous 7 years. Gotta be a mistake. Those previous 7 years do show a slight decline in license sales... http://wsfrprograms.fws.gov/Subpages/LicenseInfo/HuntingLicCertHistory20042013.pdf
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Re: Spin off from 3 buck limit thread....
[Re: hunterbuck]
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01/01/15 11:39 AM
01/01/15 11:39 AM
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Posts: 21,535 Awbarn, AL
CNC
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Dances With Weeds
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Something seems way off with that chart. I could be wrong but I thought I read something showing that we had dropped from around 250,000 to 150,000 ish.
The Corn Crash!!!
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Re: Spin off from 3 buck limit thread....
[Re: Surefire1911]
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01/01/15 11:46 AM
01/01/15 11:46 AM
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Those are some screwed up stats..and obviously full of mistakes.
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Re: Spin off from 3 buck limit thread....
[Re: Surefire1911]
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01/01/15 12:38 PM
01/01/15 12:38 PM
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Frankie
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last i look at the stats deer hunters numbers in Al stayed pretty much the same . small game hunters lost pretty good . but over all license sales did fall
Last edited by Frankie; 01/01/15 12:39 PM.
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Re: Spin off from 3 buck limit thread....
[Re: Frankie]
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01/01/15 12:48 PM
01/01/15 12:48 PM
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mike35549
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last i look at the stats deer hunters numbers in Al stayed pretty much the same . small game hunters lost pretty good . but over all license sales did fall So there is the answer on that I guess. Deer hunter numbers in AL are not decreasing each year. So that is not the reason for fewer deer being killed. Next.
If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
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Re: Spin off from 3 buck limit thread....
[Re: Surefire1911]
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01/01/15 02:02 PM
01/01/15 02:02 PM
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Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,095 Anniston, AL
ikillbux
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ishootatbux
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Serious question: How does the State REALLY know what my land needs? I mean, we have a general idea of what "territories/counties" supposedly have high or low deer densities, but I've never seen a biologist on my land. Just for example, I used to lease 650 acres that had a moderate deer density and "average" buck representation. A 1200 acre block literally just across the county road would have 50+ does in a food plot every evening, while I may not see 50 does on a food plot combined all hunts for the season.
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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Re: Spin off from 3 buck limit thread....
[Re: DeerNutz0U812_]
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01/01/15 03:33 PM
01/01/15 03:33 PM
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2Dogs
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Just exactly where.... The hardwood mountains of Northeast Alabama CAN NOT support high deer population numbers. Food is very cyclical. They have soooooo much cover up here. Down in the river valleys the farmers don't want them eating their wallet. Ya gotta shoot them. What's good for LA is not always good for NA and vice versa, DCNR screwed up plain and simple.
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