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Re: shooting does [Re: jlccoffee] #1172399
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Originally Posted By: jlccoffee
I agree with you 2dogs but in reality I doubt 2 a day or 1 a day makes a big difference. Most people shoot a certain number every year and then stop. Most hunters don't even shoot a deer every year and for others most only shoot a doe or two and that is all they want.


It might keep some of us legal. When I'm in the mood to do crowd control I want shoot more than at a time.



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Re: shooting does [Re: jlccoffee] #1172449
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Most people shoot a certain number every year and then stop.


Which is one reason in west Tennessee, basically half the state from Nashville west, has a big deer problem and liberal daily doe allowances ... and still can't get numbers in check. Hunters can't and won't shoot three does a day for multiple days even if they can donate them or have folks who want them. That's a lot of work and it also begins to hit the psyche ... "Dang, three deer a day? That's too much" even if it's not.


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Re: shooting does [Re: rich19] #1174799
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Gobbler, If you think those are "your" deer on "your" land you are mistaken. The dirt and grass are yours but the deer are not. If you would like to test this theory walk out of your back porch in June and shoot one of "your" deer that are harassing your aforementioned garden. The Game warden will clear this subject up for you.

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"They have to allow "lax" regulations since you might want a LOT of small deer on your land and manage for spikes and little does, and I might not want but just a few deer on MY land next door supporting large deer and a lot of bucks. I should be able to shoot my deer herd down to the size where they are not eating my bean garden for instance. If you don't like what the neighbor does, buy up more land or move!"

UNLESS they happen to shoot too many bucks or run dogs.

THEN you go to your wealthy buddies on the CAB and have limits set and ban dog hunting so the Law will protect 'your' bucks and take others Rights away to enjoy their property how they choose.


j/s

Re: shooting does [Re: Hogwild] #1176142
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Originally Posted By: FH308
Gobbler, If you think those are "your" deer on "your" land you are mistaken. The dirt and grass are yours but the deer are not. If you would like to test this theory walk out of your back porch in June and shoot one of "your" deer that are harassing your aforementioned garden. The Game warden will clear this subject up for you.



Yes and I still should be able to shoot the States deer herd down to the level I want on MY land, within MY management objectives!


Originally Posted By: Hogwild

THEN you go to your wealthy buddies on the CAB and have limits set and ban dog hunting so the Law will protect 'your' bucks and take others Rights away to enjoy their property how they choose.
j/s


Funny how my wealthy buddies on the CAB would not know me from Adam I am so tight with them. The only one who knows me by sight is Moultrie and I have not talked to him in years. While I did participate in the committee that ultimately made recommendations for buck restrictions, I have never weighed in on dog hunting not have I ever gone to the CAB to lobby for any changes in hunting regs... Ever!

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Re: shooting does [Re: gobbler] #1176456
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Originally Posted By: gobbler
Originally Posted By: FH308
Gobbler, If you think those are "your" deer on "your" land you are mistaken. The dirt and grass are yours but the deer are not. If you would like to test this theory walk out of your back porch in June and shoot one of "your" deer that are harassing your aforementioned garden. The Game warden will clear this subject up for you.



Yes and I still should be able to shoot the States deer herd down to the level I want on MY land, within MY management objectives!


Originally Posted By: Hogwild

THEN you go to your wealthy buddies on the CAB and have limits set and ban dog hunting so the Law will protect 'your' bucks and take others Rights away to enjoy their property how they choose.
j/s


Funny how my wealthy buddies on the CAB would not know me from Adam I am so tight with them. The only one who knows me by sight is Moultrie and I have not talked to him in years. While I did participate in the committee that ultimately made recommendations for buck restrictions, I have never weighed in on dog hunting not have I ever gone to the CAB to lobby for any changes in hunting regs... Ever!


Didn't necessarily mean YOU, per say!
But, that post you made does reek of elitism. And, is more than slightly hypocritical in light of the increasing Regulations.

Didn't mean it personal, though! smile

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How can you make such an absurd statement? You obviously have not hunted and are not familiar with Cullman Co. Cullman is the #1 agriculture county in the state. 1000s of acres are planted in corn and soybeans every year. The county is home to an excellent population of healthy deer and turkey. We kill several 120+ class bucks every year and usually at least one 150 class buck every year. Alluvial river bottoms full of hardwoods and abundant pine forest driven by one of the largest pine buyers in North Alabama. Your comment is not only wrong, it's ignorant for a person in your position to post such a comment

Re: shooting does [Re: rich19] #1179192
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Good grief. I said there are pockets of good habitat in Cullman County. The areas in Cullman county I have visited and conducted site visits on is NOT what you described at all. Most of it west of 65 is cattle country, reclaimed mine land, terrible managed timber, developed around Smith lake, etc. That is NOT good habitat. They have a LOW deer density. Low deer densities do produce good quality bucks. I'm not surprised at what you kill. Calling my statements absurd, wrong, and ignorant is very far fetched. You may have an area like that in Cullman, but understand most everybody else does not.

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Cullman is the largest agricultural producer in the state because of two things, which are cattle and chickens. Horse grazing is also big. That don't make deer habitat.

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Originally Posted By: Matt Brock
Cullman is the largest agricultural producer in the state because of two things, which are cattle and chickens. Horse grazing is also big. That don't make deer habitat.


Beef, Poultry, and don't forget sweet potatoes!! thumbup

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Re: shooting does [Re: rich19] #1179237
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I want to know where this GREAT deer habitat is in Cullman!


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Matt don't know you & don't where you have been in Cullman Co but no reason for you to criticize our hunting. You are just plain wrong. We are not in the black belt but have just as healthy deer habitat & population as anywhere else in the state. Just don't understand why u criticize my home town

Re: shooting does [Re: CKyleC] #1179275
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Originally Posted By: CKyleC
I want to know where this GREAT deer habitat is in Cullman!


South of exit 299 just a ways, you can see it from I65 laugh

I think there may actually be a shooting house you can see...

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Re: shooting does [Re: rich19] #1179292
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I can see lease prices going up in Cullman Co since now everybody knows the deer hunting there is as good as anywhere in the state.


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Re: shooting does [Re: RiverWood] #1179295
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Originally Posted By: RiverWood
Matt don't know you & don't where you have been in Cullman Co but no reason for you to criticize our hunting. You are just plain wrong. We are not in the black belt but have just as healthy deer habitat & population as anywhere else in the state. Just don't understand why u criticize my home town


If your habitat was as good as any in the state, ya'll would kill more than a few 120s and one 150 " buck.

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Re: shooting does [Re: rich19] #1179322
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Ok I give up. Leave Cullman to the locals

Re: shooting does [Re: rich19] #1179333
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I'm not trying to be mean, but I have to laugh about you saying I'm criticizing your home town and hunting. It's almost like you read my post and said,"heck no! You ain't attacking me!" That wasn't what I did at all. Cullman has terrible deer habitat, and a low population in a lot areas. Those are facts. Not an attack on your hunting. Because the population is very low in areas there are some great bucks killed. I'll give you that, but to claim that cullman has the same deer numbers as other parts of the state is false. It don't.

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Originally Posted By: Matt Brock
but to claim that cullman has the same deer numbers as other parts of the state is false. It don't.


How would you know rofl

Re: shooting does [Re: NightHunter] #1179528
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Originally Posted By: NightHunter
Originally Posted By: Matt Brock
but to claim that cullman has the same deer numbers as other parts of the state is false. It don't.


How would you know rofl


Maybe I don't. This whole time y'all had me thinking I killed the last doe on the Cullman/Blount county line.

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Originally Posted By: NightHunter
Originally Posted By: CKyleC
I want to know where this GREAT deer habitat is in Cullman!


South of exit 299 just a ways, you can see it from I65 laugh

I think there may actually be a shooting house you can see...


Yep, either side of the interstate is prime habitat there, if you can get in the fence laugh


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