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Re: Shot the new Mathews HTR (No Cam) today
[Re: Shaw]
#1150991
11/17/14 04:03 AM
11/17/14 04:03 AM
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Harpersville, AL
tfd1224
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Harpersville, AL
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tfd1224, a bow pulling 60# with a 28" draw shooting a 400gr. arrow 270fps is pretty damn good for a hunting rig. The whole point of my post is everyone worries too much about what speed their bow shoots. When it comes to hunting bows, it not as important as everyone thinks it is, especially 10 to 20fps. i know shaw, i was just showing that even though the tag on the bow says 330 fps, thats not what its going to actually shoot. heck, mine ibo's at 343 but when shot through a chrono before i cut 2 inches off my arrows and added monkeytails it shot 301
Yeah c’mon. Daniel White
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Re: Shot the new Mathews HTR (No Cam) today
[Re: QDMAV8R]
#1151088
11/17/14 05:11 AM
11/17/14 05:11 AM
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Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
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The brace height deal is a myth. Hmmm... How so? I guess radius of turn is a figment of a newton? Does your accuracy decrease when you shoot a shorter brace height bow? Mine didn't at all. Folks are learning that you don't have to have an 8" brace height to shoot accurately in a hunting setup.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Shot the new Mathews HTR (No Cam) today
[Re: N2TRKYS]
#1151244
11/17/14 07:12 AM
11/17/14 07:12 AM
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Posts: 2,667
Central Alabama
QDMAV8R
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Central Alabama
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The brace height deal is a myth. Hmmm... How so? I guess radius of turn is a figment of a newton? Does your accuracy decrease when you shoot a shorter brace height bow? Mine didn't at all. Folks are learning that you don't have to have an 8" brace height to shoot accurately in a hunting setup. Assuming your bow is always verticle and not being torqued, which can be a challenge in real world hunting situations from an elevated stand. If you are using perfect form in every shot, then you are correct it will not matter. However, as long as the laws of physics still apply; the greater the brace height the less severe the penalty for less than perfect form.
"Never met a deer that I didn't like" - QDMAV8R
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Re: Shot the new Mathews HTR (No Cam) today
[Re: QDMAV8R]
#1151262
11/17/14 07:29 AM
11/17/14 07:29 AM
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Posts: 14,588
Tuscaloosa Co.
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The brace height deal is a myth. Hmmm... How so? I guess radius of turn is a figment of a newton? Does your accuracy decrease when you shoot a shorter brace height bow? Mine didn't at all. Folks are learning that you don't have to have an 8" brace height to shoot accurately in a hunting setup. Assuming your bow is always verticle and not being torqued, which can be a challenge in real world hunting situations from an elevated stand. If you are using perfect form in every shot, then you are correct it will not matter. However, as long as the laws of physics still apply; the greater the brace height the less severe the penalty for less than perfect form. It doesn't matter how you hold your bow, as long as you hold it the same way every time. Have you ever shot a current, short brace height bow? How much did the short brace height affect your accuracy?
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Shot the new Mathews HTR (No Cam) today
[Re: robinhedd]
#1164177
11/26/14 09:03 AM
11/26/14 09:03 AM
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Posts: 8,622
Blount County
BamaBart
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Panty Wearin' Hunter
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Blount County
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I bought the Chill and had 85% Rock Mods installed last month.
Did I screw up buying a short axel to axel bow?
I only hunt with a bow until rifle season comes in. I'm having buyers remorse now that Mathews has discontinued this bow.
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Re: Shot the new Mathews HTR (No Cam) today
[Re: outdoors1]
#1164240
11/26/14 09:59 AM
11/26/14 09:59 AM
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Posts: 9,864
Mobile, AL
alhawk
14 point
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14 point
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Posts: 9,864
Mobile, AL
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Shaw, I know most would not suggest it. But, what bow, sight, broadhead with price would we be looking at to shoot 50-100 yds that would kill a deer? Remington - .270 - 130 grain - $400
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Re: Shot the new Mathews HTR (No Cam) today
[Re: BamaBart]
#1164330
11/26/14 11:32 AM
11/26/14 11:32 AM
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Posts: 28,987
Fosters, Alabama, USA
Shaw
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Fosters, Alabama, USA
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I bought the Chill and had 85% Rock Mods installed last month.
Did I screw up buying a short axel to axel bow?
I only hunt with a bow until rifle season comes in. I'm having buyers remorse now that Mathews has discontinued this bow.
If you enjoy shooting it and shoot it well, that's all that matters. The fact that the bow has been discontinued for 2015 means absolutely nothing. If anything ever goes wrong Mathews will have the neccesaary parts on hand to fix it. That goes for every single model they have ever built. A buddy of mine bought a used PSE for his son. The bow is 4 years old. I tried to get a set of draw mods for it and was told they no longer have them. 
"I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it." Captain Woodrow F. Call
ShawBuilt Custom Bowstrings
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Re: Shot the new Mathews HTR (No Cam) today
[Re: robinhedd]
#1164626
11/26/14 04:50 PM
11/26/14 04:50 PM
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Posts: 28,987
Fosters, Alabama, USA
Shaw
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I haven't been able to see one in person yet. From looking at the specs, I believe my only complaint is going to be the physical weight of the bow. I like a light bow that I can add weight to where it's needed.
"I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it." Captain Woodrow F. Call
ShawBuilt Custom Bowstrings
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Re: Shot the new Mathews HTR (No Cam) today
[Re: robinhedd]
#1171115
12/02/14 08:57 AM
12/02/14 08:57 AM
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Posts: 5,391
Cleburne County
NortonZ7
12 point
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12 point
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Posts: 5,391
Cleburne County
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I shot the No Cam HTR today. I didn't like it. The draw was terrible. The shot felt fine, but I hated the draw. And y'all know I'm partial to Mathews. I think I'm jumping ship and buying a Hoyt.
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Re: Shot the new Mathews HTR (No Cam) today
[Re: robinhedd]
#1171130
12/02/14 09:06 AM
12/02/14 09:06 AM
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Posts: 2,336
North Alabama
robinhedd
OP
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Posts: 2,336
North Alabama
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Ive really considered a Hoyt Drew. I dont like the way the cables rub on the side of the wheels on the Mathews no cam. They put some kinda guard or protecter on the cables, but i think after a lot of shooting it will eat them up. RH
Last edited by robinhedd; 12/02/14 09:08 AM.
"Guess I just got too much Mathews in me!"
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Re: Shot the new Mathews HTR (No Cam) today
[Re: robinhedd]
#1171512
12/02/14 02:04 PM
12/02/14 02:04 PM
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Posts: 5,391
Cleburne County
NortonZ7
12 point
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12 point
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Cleburne County
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Ive really considered a Hoyt Drew. I dont like the way the cables rub on the side of the wheels on the Mathews no cam. They put some kinda guard or protecter on the cables, but i think after a lot of shooting it will eat them up. RH I felt like I was pulling 90 lb
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Re: Shot the new Mathews HTR (No Cam) today
[Re: robinhedd]
#1171541
12/02/14 02:22 PM
12/02/14 02:22 PM
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Posts: 2,336
North Alabama
robinhedd
OP
8 point
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8 point
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Posts: 2,336
North Alabama
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U should give a Chill X or Chill R a try, I'm really digging them. When I buy another bow, guess I will give a Hoyt carbon riser a try.
"Guess I just got too much Mathews in me!"
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Re: Shot the new Mathews HTR (No Cam) today
[Re: robinhedd]
#1171613
12/02/14 03:07 PM
12/02/14 03:07 PM
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Posts: 28,987
Fosters, Alabama, USA
Shaw
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Fosters, Alabama, USA
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The Chill R is the best Mathews I've ever owned. Mine has 60# limbs on it. Bottomed out its pulling 62#. It feels like I'm pulling 50#. The Rock mods feel great at full draw.
Hoyt makes a great bow. I did a stint with them from 2004 to 2006. I won some big shoots, a central zone championship, a state championship and a shooter of the title with them. The one thing I've always hated about that Cam & 1/2 system of theirs is the lack of valley at full draw.
"I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it." Captain Woodrow F. Call
ShawBuilt Custom Bowstrings
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Re: Shot the new Mathews HTR (No Cam) today
[Re: robinhedd]
#1171850
12/02/14 04:47 PM
12/02/14 04:47 PM
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Posts: 14,588
Tuscaloosa Co.
N2TRKYS
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Booner
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Tuscaloosa Co.
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The Hoyt Carbon Element is what I went to. I shot a Mathews MQ1 from 1999-2013. I shot a bunch of bows before buying. The Hoyt CE felt better to me. Doesn't mean it's a better bow, just better for me.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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Re: Shot the new Mathews HTR (No Cam) today
[Re: Shaw]
#1172239
12/03/14 03:09 AM
12/03/14 03:09 AM
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Posts: 5,391
Cleburne County
NortonZ7
12 point
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12 point
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Posts: 5,391
Cleburne County
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The Chill R is the best Mathews I've ever owned. Mine has 60# limbs on it. Bottomed out its pulling 62#. It feels like I'm pulling 50#. The Rock mods feel great at full draw.
Hoyt makes a great bow. I did a stint with them from 2004 to 2006. I won some big shoots, a central zone championship, a state championship and a shooter of the title with them. The one thing I've always hated about that Cam & 1/2 system of theirs is the lack of valley at full draw. I really like the chill r with the rock mods. I may end up with that. I've been shooting Mathews really since I was old enough. I may end up going with the chill, but I really like the feel of all the new Hoyt's. I was all excited to shoot the no cam but I got let down.
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