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HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ??? #1160398
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How easy is it to slide this attachment strap up the tree as you climb in a climbing stand?


I'll probably get the short one but I had a thought about the 30 foot treestrap with the prussik knot. If you had this one attached with the 30 foot rope,and your stand fell, would it be possible to use it to get to the ground? I was just thinking that if you could hug the tree and release the pressure on the knot enough to slide it some, you might be able to hug and slide down the tree a little at a time. It certainly wouldn't be easy or practical, but do you think it would be possible?

In this line of thought, what if you put a couple of tree steps in your pack so you could screw one in and stand on it to release the weight so you could slide the knot down and do it again just lower this time?

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I feel the prusik knot one would be easier to get down if you fell.

It definitely is easy going up and getting in the lock-ons I have.

Are you going to be using the same tree each time you use your climber?

Most of the 30 ft ones are for permanent stand or lock-ons

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The steps are the way to go. Even if.just to take some weight off when hanging there.

Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ??? [Re: BOFF] #1160446
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Originally Posted By: BOFF
I feel the prusik knot one would be easier to get down if you fell.

It definitely is easy going up and getting in the lock-ons I have.

Are you going to be using the same tree each time you use your climber?

Most of the 30 ft ones are for permanent stand or lock-ons

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No, not the same tree and I won't leave it there. I was just considering the 30 footer because I could get to the ground, even if I wrapped my legs around the rope and slid to the ground, or used a couple steps to work my way down.

I will be using an Old Man climber. I've climbed a lot in the past, just not in a few years. The long rope would be a little hassle getting up the tree with all the length dangling but not too bad, and I could use the end for a gun rope.

I'm going to buy either the long one or the shorter one. I know the long one is intended to be left in the tree with a fixed stand. I guess my weird mind just wants to think of new ways to use things.

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To answer your first question - it is very easy to slide the rope up or down the tree as you climb. I think it is a whole lot easier than using the traditional strap that comes with most stands.


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I use the short one. I just move it up and down with me as I climb. That way, you're always attached to the tree. I have never used the safety strap that comes with the harness. I bought my rope style as an accessory.

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FOR THE LONGER ONE TO WORK THE END AT THE GROUND HAS TO BE ATTACHED TO THE BASE OF THE TREE


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Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ??? [Re: PEA_RIDGE] #1160504
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Originally Posted By: PEA_RIDGE
FOR THE LONGER ONE TO WORK THE END AT THE GROUND HAS TO BE ATTACHED TO THE BASE OF THE TREE


I don't know what you mean by "the end at the ground". Don't you just put it around the tree and put the end with the knot through the loop? Why couldn't you then slide the knot up close to the loop and slide the loop up the tree as you climb, with the excess rope on the ground?

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I have the rope and it is quieter than Tha dang buckle on the strap and when slidin it up it doesn't get hung up on bark as bad. Plus it is great as a linemans rope when hanging lock ons and climbing sticks.


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Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ??? [Re: Bustinbeards] #1160633
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The 30 ft one is supposed to be attached to the top of the tree and left, so you can attach to it and go up the tree steps or sticks, without having to use one hand to move the a harness around and up the tree.

Look closely and you can see it here. If it wasn't attached to the bottom, one wouldn't be able to move the prusik knot up the rope, as the rope would pull up with you as you slid the knot upward.



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Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ??? [Re: R_H_Clark] #1160644
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I agree the rope is easier going up and down the tree. However once the prusik knot is tension loaded it will be very difficult to move up or down if you are looking for a way to move up and down a rope look at rope rescue equipment. There are several different options available.


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Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ??? [Re: R_H_Clark] #1160744
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i am no pro when it comes to climbing but why do you have to secure the 30' rope to the base of the tree? i have never secured this rope. i climb with either a summit viper or a gunslinger.

for first climb of season:
attach the upper part of climber to tree and place it well above my head. then attach the lower part of climber. connect the two pieces together with short piece of rope. hop onto lower part and then take the safety rope and bring looped end around tree and run free end (tag end) through the loop and lightly cinch to tree (above the upper part).

once i'm ready to begin climbing, i lock into the safety rope with the carabiner that is attaced to my safety harness (it's located behind my head). as i climb, i move the rope up the tree until i reach the point i want to sit. then i attach the back of the seat to the tree and use my pull up rope to bring up my gun. (my climbers are "sit and climb" type).

i have the summit 30' foot ropes and sometimes leave them in the tree if it is where i know i will return to hunt. if not, i remove them. just ease tension on loop and lower rope on tree as i'm climbing down.

very easy to go up or come down while attached to prussik loop. seems it would be difficult to ease down the rope with prussik loop if one were to fall. would have to have ability to take tension off of the knot (loop) to move it. best to have some screw in steps or suspension relief strap.

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i think it would be difficult to try and hug a tree while dangling from a safety rope AND attempting to relieve the tension on the prussik knot. can't see it unless you have a small diameter tree. never been in that scenario.

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You would have to have 2 prusiks to get down the tree in a fall situation, one on your harness and one to put a foot through. I have actually ascended a rope with 2 prusiks and I can tell you it sucks but climbing down ain't so bad.


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You don't have to attach the rope to the tree but if you don't you have to hold it down while you slide the knot up with the other hand.

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I use the 30 ft ropes (sold as "Lifelines" by HSS and others)for my lock on stands. The rope is tied off at the bottom and top and I attach my carabineer from my harness and move the prusik knot as I climb the sticks and reverse coming down.

You could use the 30 ft ropes with your climber but why would you do that? I bought the short rope and just store it in the pocket of my harness. That way I can use the short rope system on any tree I want and not be limited to the trees where I prepositioned the 30 ft ropes. It's simple and works well.

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Originally Posted By: tfd1224
You would have to have 2 prusiks to get down the tree in a fall situation, one on your harness and one to put a foot through. I have actually ascended a rope with 2 prusiks and I can tell you it sucks but climbing down ain't so bad.


This. Instead of the steps, keep you a short loop of rope (maybe a 4 foot loop) in your pocket and learn how to tie it into a prusik onto your lifeline. By using it to stand in, you could loosen the pressure on the one attached to your harness enough to slide it down. Then hang by the harness to loosen the pressure on your prusik you were standing in. Slide it down and then repeat these two until you get down. I bet it wont be easy, but doable. CD.

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Originally Posted By: JA

You could use the 30 ft ropes with your climber but why would you do that? I bought the short rope and just store it in the pocket of my harness. That way I can use the short rope system on any tree I want and not be limited to the trees where I prepositioned the 30 ft ropes. It's simple and works well.


OP is asking how he could decend the tree if his stand were to fall all the way down. Theoretically, he could come down the long rope instead of dangling from the short one. CD.

I personally use the short rope as well. I just keep another piece short rope with loops in each end in my pocket. If my stand fell, I would wrap the rope around the tree, through one loop, and stand in the other loop to take some pressure off my legs from the harness straps. Could possibly use it to work my way down the tree in conjunction with the prusik on my harness.

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Originally Posted By: JA
I use the 30 ft ropes (sold as "Lifelines" by HSS and others)for my lock on stands. The rope is tied off at the bottom and top and I attach my carabineer from my harness and move the prusik knot as I climb the sticks and reverse coming down.

You could use the 30 ft ropes with your climber but why would you do that? I bought the short rope and just store it in the pocket of my harness. That way I can use the short rope system on any tree I want and not be limited to the trees where I prepositioned the 30 ft ropes. It's simple and works well.


I know the longer rope dangling down would be harder to climb with , but I was thinking that it might be possible to use it in conjunction with a couple of tree steps to get down if the stand broke or fell.

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Got the question now. I keep the relief strap they include with the harness in my left harness breast pocket. It also seconds as a drag strap. That would at least get your weight of the leg straps while you regrouped.

I tie my bottom piece to the top piece in my climber so it won't slide very far. If a ladder stand were to somehow collapse from under me I figure worst case I would cut the rope connecting me to the tree and slide down the tree enough to finally jump for it. Would be a bad day all around but probably would end of at worse with a broken ankle. I also don't climb much higher than about 20ft.

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