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Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ???
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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11/23/14 03:35 PM
11/23/14 03:35 PM
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I feel the prusik knot one would be easier to get down if you fell.
It definitely is easy going up and getting in the lock-ons I have.
Are you going to be using the same tree each time you use your climber?
Most of the 30 ft ones are for permanent stand or lock-ons
God Bless, David B.
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Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ???
[Re: BOFF]
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11/23/14 03:46 PM
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I feel the prusik knot one would be easier to get down if you fell.
It definitely is easy going up and getting in the lock-ons I have.
Are you going to be using the same tree each time you use your climber?
Most of the 30 ft ones are for permanent stand or lock-ons
God Bless, David B. No, not the same tree and I won't leave it there. I was just considering the 30 footer because I could get to the ground, even if I wrapped my legs around the rope and slid to the ground, or used a couple steps to work my way down. I will be using an Old Man climber. I've climbed a lot in the past, just not in a few years. The long rope would be a little hassle getting up the tree with all the length dangling but not too bad, and I could use the end for a gun rope. I'm going to buy either the long one or the shorter one. I know the long one is intended to be left in the tree with a fixed stand. I guess my weird mind just wants to think of new ways to use things.
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Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ???
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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11/23/14 03:49 PM
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To answer your first question - it is very easy to slide the rope up or down the tree as you climb. I think it is a whole lot easier than using the traditional strap that comes with most stands.
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Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ???
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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11/23/14 03:53 PM
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FOR THE LONGER ONE TO WORK THE END AT THE GROUND HAS TO BE ATTACHED TO THE BASE OF THE TREE
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Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ???
[Re: PEA_RIDGE]
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11/23/14 04:05 PM
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FOR THE LONGER ONE TO WORK THE END AT THE GROUND HAS TO BE ATTACHED TO THE BASE OF THE TREE I don't know what you mean by "the end at the ground". Don't you just put it around the tree and put the end with the knot through the loop? Why couldn't you then slide the knot up close to the loop and slide the loop up the tree as you climb, with the excess rope on the ground?
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Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ???
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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11/23/14 04:09 PM
11/23/14 04:09 PM
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I have the rope and it is quieter than Tha dang buckle on the strap and when slidin it up it doesn't get hung up on bark as bad. Plus it is great as a linemans rope when hanging lock ons and climbing sticks.
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Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ???
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11/23/14 04:52 PM
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The 30 ft one is supposed to be attached to the top of the tree and left, so you can attach to it and go up the tree steps or sticks, without having to use one hand to move the a harness around and up the tree. Look closely and you can see it here. If it wasn't attached to the bottom, one wouldn't be able to move the prusik knot up the rope, as the rope would pull up with you as you slid the knot upward. God Bless, David B.
Last edited by BOFF; 11/23/14 04:54 PM.
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Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ???
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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11/23/14 04:55 PM
11/23/14 04:55 PM
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I agree the rope is easier going up and down the tree. However once the prusik knot is tension loaded it will be very difficult to move up or down if you are looking for a way to move up and down a rope look at rope rescue equipment. There are several different options available.
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Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ???
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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11/23/14 05:54 PM
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You would have to have 2 prusiks to get down the tree in a fall situation, one on your harness and one to put a foot through. I have actually ascended a rope with 2 prusiks and I can tell you it sucks but climbing down ain't so bad.
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Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ???
[Re: tfd1224]
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11/24/14 04:36 AM
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You would have to have 2 prusiks to get down the tree in a fall situation, one on your harness and one to put a foot through. I have actually ascended a rope with 2 prusiks and I can tell you it sucks but climbing down ain't so bad. This. Instead of the steps, keep you a short loop of rope (maybe a 4 foot loop) in your pocket and learn how to tie it into a prusik onto your lifeline. By using it to stand in, you could loosen the pressure on the one attached to your harness enough to slide it down. Then hang by the harness to loosen the pressure on your prusik you were standing in. Slide it down and then repeat these two until you get down. I bet it wont be easy, but doable. CD.
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Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ???
[Re: JA]
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11/24/14 04:39 AM
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You could use the 30 ft ropes with your climber but why would you do that? I bought the short rope and just store it in the pocket of my harness. That way I can use the short rope system on any tree I want and not be limited to the trees where I prepositioned the 30 ft ropes. It's simple and works well.
OP is asking how he could decend the tree if his stand were to fall all the way down. Theoretically, he could come down the long rope instead of dangling from the short one. CD. I personally use the short rope as well. I just keep another piece short rope with loops in each end in my pocket. If my stand fell, I would wrap the rope around the tree, through one loop, and stand in the other loop to take some pressure off my legs from the harness straps. Could possibly use it to work my way down the tree in conjunction with the prusik on my harness.
Last edited by CD; 11/24/14 04:51 AM.
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Re: HSS rope style treestrap with climbing stand ???
[Re: JA]
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11/24/14 04:47 AM
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I use the 30 ft ropes (sold as "Lifelines" by HSS and others)for my lock on stands. The rope is tied off at the bottom and top and I attach my carabineer from my harness and move the prusik knot as I climb the sticks and reverse coming down.
You could use the 30 ft ropes with your climber but why would you do that? I bought the short rope and just store it in the pocket of my harness. That way I can use the short rope system on any tree I want and not be limited to the trees where I prepositioned the 30 ft ropes. It's simple and works well. I know the longer rope dangling down would be harder to climb with , but I was thinking that it might be possible to use it in conjunction with a couple of tree steps to get down if the stand broke or fell.
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