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cows in your #1159364
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deer plots .

read the last paragraph . i wonder if cows would be the same ?

dead pig

Re: cows in your [Re: Frankie] #1159367
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No comment laugh


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Anybody but me remember that South Park episode where the poor ole rabbit was "comin right at me". Hahaha gotta laugh at this one


Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
Anybody but me remember that South Park episode where the poor ole rabbit was "comin right at me". Hahaha gotta laugh at this one


Lol uncle jimbo and ned remind me of some of the locals around here


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Originally Posted By: Frankie
deer plots .

read the last paragraph . i wonder if cows would be the same ?

dead pig



We used to have a similar problem with the hunting club that backed up to us. Cows would get out and mow the Greenfields down.


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Re: cows in your [Re: Frankie] #1159400
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I know what happened last time I ran into cows in our green field. We had steaks for a while. We took out 3. But they were my grand fathers. They got out and we couldn't get near them didnt see them for a couple of weeks then they showed up on our green fields. He always had the idea that when a cow went into the arena at the sale he could get them cheaper either doped or if they cleared out the arena and tried to jump the gate.

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Bet Daggerz could relate...


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Poor ol Artie

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We bought 2 cows with 2 calves last week and paid 5,100 for them. That is not a misprint-$5,100.00 for them. We have good fences to contain our cattle, and I would hate to think about one getting out and someone shooting it. We only have one pet-ole Ruthie that we raised on a bottle and she has never raised a calf, she is just a pet and my 2 year old granddaughter has ridden her a bunch times because she is so gentle. If she got out and someone said she attacked them I would have to believe them and get over it after they shot and killed her. I would probably take her to the packing house and give her to friends after processing. I just don't think I could eat that cow when I can't even think about taking her to market now.


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Re: cows in your [Re: Frankie] #1159510
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As far as DCNR goes, the killing of the hog is legal since it is illegal to release a domestic hog into the Wild.

DCNR has absolutely NOTHING to do with Livestock Laws, though.
SO, their stance on this has nothing at all to do with the legalities of shooting cattle and horses.

I have had trouble the past 2 yrs with cattle on my place.....a LOT of trouble! I finally had enough and got the AL Rural Crime Task Force involved. 2 visits with the cattle owner later, there is a brand new fence, less cattle and none have been out in over 2 months now. They got the message out...real plain and simple.

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Originally Posted By: Avengedsevenfold
Bet Daggerz could relate...


Problem is getting handled this eve.

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Yeah it was always funny how when I hunted in Selma our Greenfield's would look great on a Sunday come back Friday and cows have mowed them down. It happened several times a year for a couple years always during the week and up by weekend. It was amazing how it stopped when a couple didn't make it home one year.


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Don't shoot the cows,a buddy of mines dad and uncle got tired of dealing with the neighbors cows in their plots all the time and took several out after the cows owner wouldn't do anything about them getting out,the dad and uncle ended up buying those dead cows

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Originally Posted By: gobblebox
Don't shoot the cows,a buddy of mines dad and uncle got tired of dealing with the neighbors cows in their plots all the time and took several out after the cows owner wouldn't do anything about them getting out,the dad and uncle ended up buying those dead cows


Yep!

And cattle prices are through the roof right now!

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Law:

3-4-6. Liability of owner of animal breaking into lands not enclosed by lawful fence for trespass or damages; liability of person injuring or destroying such animal.
(a) If any trespass or damage is done by any animal breaking into lands not enclosed by a lawful fence as defined in this chapter, the owner shall not be liable therefor.
(b) If any person injures or destroys any such animal, he shall be liable to the owner for five times the amount of injury done, to be recovered before any court of competent jurisdiction.

In other words, if the livestock owner has a legal fence and is making an attempt to keep it up, he is not liable for any damage his livestock does if they escape. And, in turn, if your property does NOT have a legal fence to keep them out, you are liable if you injure of kill the animal......for up to 5x the value of the animal!
Best thing to do is call the proper LEO!!!!

Re: cows in your [Re: Hogwild] #1159781
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Originally Posted By: Hogwild
Law:

3-4-6. Liability of owner of animal breaking into lands not enclosed by lawful fence for trespass or damages; liability of person injuring or destroying such animal.
(a) If any trespass or damage is done by any animal breaking into lands not enclosed by a lawful fence as defined in this chapter, the owner shall not be liable therefor.
(b) If any person injures or destroys any such animal, he shall be liable to the owner for five times the amount of injury done, to be recovered before any court of competent jurisdiction.

In other words, if the livestock owner has a legal fence and is making an attempt to keep it up, he is not liable for any damage his livestock does if they escape. And, in turn, if your property does NOT have a legal fence to keep them out, you are liable if you injure of kill the animal......for up to 5x the value of the animal!
Best thing to do is call the proper LEO!!!!



ok i'm goona split hairs . the law says "any animal" not livestock . the hog imo is "any animal" why was it ok to kill the hog .

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Originally Posted By: Hogwild
Law:

3-4-6. Liability of owner of animal breaking into lands not enclosed by lawful fence for trespass or damages; liability of person injuring or destroying such animal.
(a) If any trespass or damage is done by any animal breaking into lands not enclosed by a lawful fence as defined in this chapter, the owner shall not be liable therefor.
(b) If any person injures or destroys any such animal, he shall be liable to the owner for five times the amount of injury done, to be recovered before any court of competent jurisdiction.

In other words, if the livestock owner has a legal fence and is making an attempt to keep it up, he is not liable for any damage his livestock does if they escape. And, in turn, if your property does NOT have a legal fence to keep them out, you are liable if you injure of kill the animal......for up to 5x the value of the animal!
Best thing to do is call the proper LEO!!!!


That's a bullshit law if you ask me. (I know you didn't ask me). I agree on not shooting the cows but why should owner not be liable for damage. They are his to control and maintain, not mine. If I had a major problem with them doing that I would SSS. And yes I do have machines big enough to dig that size hole in less than 20 minutes. And how in the world would the landowner ever know if they don't trespass on your land looking for said animals anyway.

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i know my ex boss had troulble with cows . it got a nother framer to to rope and catch all the loose cows . the guy that owned the cattle had to pay a hefty price to get the cows back .

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Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: Hogwild
Law:

3-4-6. Liability of owner of animal breaking into lands not enclosed by lawful fence for trespass or damages; liability of person injuring or destroying such animal.
(a) If any trespass or damage is done by any animal breaking into lands not enclosed by a lawful fence as defined in this chapter, the owner shall not be liable therefor.
(b) If any person injures or destroys any such animal, he shall be liable to the owner for five times the amount of injury done, to be recovered before any court of competent jurisdiction.

In other words, if the livestock owner has a legal fence and is making an attempt to keep it up, he is not liable for any damage his livestock does if they escape. And, in turn, if your property does NOT have a legal fence to keep them out, you are liable if you injure of kill the animal......for up to 5x the value of the animal!
Best thing to do is call the proper LEO!!!!



ok i'm goona split hairs . the law says "any animal" not livestock . the hog imo is "any animal" why was it ok to kill the hog .


I was told if its on your property and is a danger to you or any other person its self defense. Had to deal with my neighbors pit when it showed up at the house and a leo was called. And that goes with any animal.

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On the hog.....as stated, it was NOT against any Game and Fish Law.
Nobody said anything about civil law.

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