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Broad head discussion / question #1133660
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I've only shot Rages and not getting pass throughs on a consistent basis.. When they work they are awesome but we are losing deer on shots that aren't bad placements.. My question is
a. What are you shooting? Getting consistent pass throughs?
B. What are the advantages to fixed vs rages?


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Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1133673
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Are you shooting enough spine in your arrows? What's your kinetic energy(KE) for your setup?


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Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1133703
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what type of bow are you shooting and what is the setup


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Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1133721
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Just a bear encounter 55 pds pull 28" draw


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Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1133737
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You'd probably be better off with a fixed broadhead with your setup.


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Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1133747
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Slick trick standards....


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Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: JLavender] #1133776
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Thanks for the input.. If iwas to buy a new elite or bear bow at 60 pds pull would the kinetic energy be night and day?


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If Rages were all I had shoot then I probably quit bowhunting-
Get you some trophy taker shuttle T's or slick tricks and then you'll be digging them out of the dirt after it passes through the deer. As a kid I shot completely through numerous deer with a 45lb bow and 3- blade muzzies.


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Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1133788
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you may also want to check your arrow flight,you should be getting enough energy to pass through a deer,but inconsistent arrow flight can cause you problems with penetration,and keep your blades sharp,just a couple more things to think about.


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Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1133794
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I shot my first deer today with the slick trick magnum and maxima blue arrow..had complete pass thru and a heck of a entrance and exit hole...shot her at 25yds and she ran about 40yds before falling down..this was with my sons bow..28.5 draw and 62 lbs.

Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1133804
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Originally Posted By: RMFT
Thanks for the input.. If iwas to buy a new elite or bear bow at 60 pds pull would the kinetic energy be night and day?



You can Google the KE formula. It will ask your total arrow weight(including the broadhead/field point) and your arrow speed.


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Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1133856
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Thanks, I'll try some slick tricks and circle back..


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Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1133861
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3 blade 125 muzzies out of my crossbow. They shoot great and don't think I've had one yet that wasn't a pass through.

Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1133869
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I sHoot the extremes. Shot a doe through both shoulders a few days ago. Stuck out a few inches on the exit side. She was 20 yards. The only other deer was a buck That I did not get a pass through. It hit the opposite shoulder and a 30 yard shot. Everything else has been pass through. If you hut right behind the crease in the front shoulder Ill get a pass though. 68 lb 28.5 draw reezen. Not saying they are the best broadhead but the ones I feel confident in. The buck was a hyperdermic to. Went right back to extremes.

I really think I want to try a fixed blade or ram cats. I just haven't made the switch. Y, just because.

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Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: countryjwh] #1133876
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Originally Posted By: countryjwh
I sHoot the extremes. Shot a for through both shoulders a few days ago. Stuck out a few inches on the exit side. She was 20 yards. The only other deer was a buck That I did not get a pass through. It hit the opposite shoulder and a 30 yard shot. Everything else has been pass through. If you hut right behind the crease in the front shoulder Ill get a pass though. 68 lb 28.5 draw reezen. Not saying they see the best broadhead but the ones I feel confident in. The buck was a hyperdermic to. Went right back to extremes.



I shot extremes as well.. when they work they are a horror show but when they stick it's just frustrating on a good shot.


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Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1133903
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I have shot G5 montec CS for a few years and always had pass thrus. Ramcats blow thru a deer with ease also. I shoot a 29.5" draw and 60 lbs. I killed about 15 deer and 3 elk with Montecs, all pass thrus

Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1133918
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I shoot Thunderhead 100s. It made short work of the 7 pt that I killed in KY. The buck was shot at 30 yards. Complete pass through. He ran about 20 yards and died. A lot of good broadheads out there. Just find one hat matches your setup and stick with it.


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Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1133951
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I shoot Muzzy 100 gr 3 blades.

Poor shot by me yesterday resulted in going through left shoulder completely, broke right shoulder right at the ball socket, and poked out other side about 1/3 arrow length.


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Mechanicals take more KE to pass through, and are not recommended at lower draw weights.

I've shot 14 deer with slick trick standards and magnums and got a pass through on all but one. That one shot through the front leg and into the opposite leg. The deer ran about 35 yards and crashed. Of those 14 deer, 3 of those were 200+ lb bucks, at 25, 28, and 34 yards.

Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1133967
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I think you may have some tuning issues. The only times I have not had passthroughs with rages were spine shots.


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I've always had pass troughs with rage heads. Like others have said, think you need check your bow and retune it.


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Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1134192
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I am impressed with slick tricks, those heads are rough on them. I have shot 2 does with the Magnums, both ran about 30yds a piece and fell over dead. I decided to step it up a notch and try the Grizz Trick and have shot 3 does with them, all which have dropped dead in their tracks. I shoot 100gr and Carbon Express Maximum Hunters.

Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1134402
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I'm leary of the mechanical heads in lower poundage bows. I know all the rhetoric, but real-world examples tell me that unless you're pile driving them with a heavy bow, you get a lower percentage of pass-thrus. But I'd guess that your problem isn't broadhead related. It's most likely arrow weight or shot placement.


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Re: Broad head discussion / question [Re: RMFT] #1134536
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To successfully hunt with mechanicals you must have higher poundage, or a heavier hunting arrow to get enough KE. I used to hate mechanicals until I started shooting FMJ's. I now shoot Victory VAP's and they will get pass throughs with a large mechanical as well. With low poundage, the smaller diameter in FMJ's and Victory arrows should help too.

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Originally Posted By: buckhunter2

If Rages were all I had shoot then I probably quit bowhunting-
Get you some trophy taker shuttle T's or slick tricks and then you'll be digging them out of the dirt after it passes through the deer. As a kid I shot completely through numerous deer with a 45lb bow and 3- blade muzzies.


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