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Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: timbercruiser] #1131804
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I'm not for promoting smoking pot, but you can't stop it by making it illegal. All in all I think legalization will do less harm than good.

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: bill] #1131809
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Originally Posted By: bill
Cannibus oil has some great medicinal uses and there is even strong evidence of its effectiveness in treating certain cancers. Smoking it provides none of these and the law will result in a bunch of scripts being written for people that used to have to go to their dealer for pot. I know it helps ease pain for cancer sufferers and increases appetite in diseased patients but they will be a small percentage of the scripts written just like in California. I'm not against legalization in a perfect world but we already have enough mind numbed abusers of the system and this will only add to it.


Yep.


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Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: FurFlyin] #1131820
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As far as legalizing it across the board, it's up for vote here in Oregon and I'm against it. It's legal across the bridge from our town to buy Mary Jane. The legal mary jane shops can't keep it in stock for long. IT"S EXPENSIVE and any normal person wanting it will buy it off the street. You're only allowed to buy a SMALL AMOUNT, and the dealers are still dealing drugs cheaper than the stores will have it. Middle schoolers, High schoolers, and everyone under age will buy off the street. There's also the people TOO STUPID to realize their company STILL HAS A DRUG POLICY even though the state says it's ok. Then the dumbasses cry because they lost their job.

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: kodiak06] #1131825
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Legal maryJ for medicinal purposes is in Oregon and it's abused... Got a crack head around the corner that's allowed it for "medical reasons". He has a green house with plants about 12ft tall. He's a no good, food stamp gathering, pot smoking bum! We also just had 2 day care workers fired in state for hitting the bong at work, outside, on video. Claimed it should be ok. That's the people taking care of someone's kids. I guess caring for pre-schoolers can make you want to chill though.

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Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: kodiak06] #1131828
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Hey, I'm on a roll. Along with legalizing maryJ, you now have to deal with the CANDY and FOOD products using it. That's a big issue here. The vote is on and the appearance of the candy even though labeled, WILL ATTRACT young children. It may go smooth but, don't be pissed if you vote on this stuff and one day find ya kid eating the whole bag of chips with a smile on his face from all the candy he just ate. I'm guessing it will PASS here. I've seen adults out at a dirt track smoking and when they would see my Coast Guard hat, panic, lol.

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: kodiak06] #1131830
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Originally Posted By: kodiak06
Legal maryJ for medicinal purposes is in Oregon and it's abused... Got a crack head around the corner that's allowed it for "medical reasons". He has a green house with plants about 12ft tall. He's a no good, food stamp gathering, pot smoking bum! We also just had 2 day care workers fired in state for hitting the bong at work, outside, on video. Claimed it should be ok. That's the people taking care of someone's kids. I guess caring for pre-schoolers can make you want to chill though.


People don't want to hear the truth. That just clouds the issue. By the way, I agree with you.


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Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: kodiak06] #1131832
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Originally Posted By: kodiak06
Hey, I'm on a roll. Along with legalizing maryJ, you now have to deal with the CANDY and FOOD products using it. That's a big issue here. The vote is on and the appearance of the candy even though labeled, WILL ATTRACT young children. It may go smooth but, don't be pissed if you vote on this stuff and one day find ya kid eating the whole bag of chips with a smile on his face from all the candy he just ate. I'm guessing it will PASS here. I've seen adults out at a dirt track smoking and when they would see my Coast Guard hat, panic, lol.


There are lethal medications that look just like candy sold in the grocery store. It's about knowing what your kids are doing and always has been.

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: FurFlyin] #1131835
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Originally Posted By: FurFlyin
Originally Posted By: kodiak06
Legal maryJ for medicinal purposes is in Oregon and it's abused... Got a crack head around the corner that's allowed it for "medical reasons". He has a green house with plants about 12ft tall. He's a no good, food stamp gathering, pot smoking bum! We also just had 2 day care workers fired in state for hitting the bong at work, outside, on video. Claimed it should be ok. That's the people taking care of someone's kids. I guess caring for pre-schoolers can make you want to chill though.


People don't want to hear the truth. That just clouds the issue. By the way, I agree with you.


What's the point? Legalization didn't create those issues. Those day care workers would have still been hitting the bong legal or not and the dead beat would still be a dead beat and still getting a check and still getting high legal pot or not.

What you do when you make it illegal is keep people who could legitimately benefit from it, and who are trying to be law abiding citizens from getting help. There was a local girl here whose parents had to move to Colorado because pot was the only thing that would stop her seizures. They left all their family to try to legally help their child.

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: R_H_Clark] #1131838
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Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Originally Posted By: FurFlyin
Originally Posted By: kodiak06
Legal maryJ for medicinal purposes is in Oregon and it's abused... Got a crack head around the corner that's allowed it for "medical reasons". He has a green house with plants about 12ft tall. He's a no good, food stamp gathering, pot smoking bum! We also just had 2 day care workers fired in state for hitting the bong at work, outside, on video. Claimed it should be ok. That's the people taking care of someone's kids. I guess caring for pre-schoolers can make you want to chill though.


People don't want to hear the truth. That just clouds the issue. By the way, I agree with you.


What's the point? Legalization didn't create those issues. Those day care workers would have still been hitting the bong legal or not and the dead beat would still be a dead beat and still getting a check and still getting high legal pot or not.


One of my posts was about medical maryJ and one was about just making it legal across the board. Legalized Mary'j is not a buy as much as you want product. It's highly regulated and they get all the cool named weed they can get and charge out the ass for it.. It will in no way curb the street weed. There's also no way those 2 ladies would have hit the bong outside on the playground in broad daylight had it been illegal. They had "paperwork" showing they could use it, lol.

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: timbercruiser] #1131851
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I feel sick, going to the coast. slap


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Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: timbercruiser] #1131880
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A couple of weeks ago on the show "The Doctors" there was a couple from Atlanta on there. He was one of the drug enforcement officers in Atlanta. They had a 8 year old son that was born with a severe seizure problem, over 250 seizures a day. They had tried everything, including two brain surgeries to help, no drugs or anything else helped. A doctor told them to go to Denver and see a doctor about trying medicinal liquid marijuana. The wife did and it was almost a miracle. The boy still has seizures, but there aren't as many nor are they as severe. Problem is the wife has to live in Denver because it is illegal to bring the marijuana derivative to the state of Georgia. They said it was like they finally had a son that was theirs. Pure damn ridiculous for there to be a helpful drug, but they can't have it without going a thousand miles and having to live, separated, there..
Cancer patients that can't eat without throwing up all their food, glaucoma patients that medicinal marijuana is helpful for and other similar patients are the ones I'm voting for, not the bums in the street.

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: bill] #1131884
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Originally Posted By: bill
Cannibus oil has some great medicinal uses and there is even strong evidence of its effectiveness in treating certain cancers. Smoking it provides none of these and the law will result in a bunch of scripts being written for people that used to have to go to their dealer for pot. I know it helps ease pain for cancer sufferers and increases appetite in diseased patients but they will be a small percentage of the scripts written just like in California. I'm not against legalization in a perfect world but we already have enough mind numbed abusers of the system and this will only add to it.


Agreed ... legalizing the oil is the only way I would vote yes for it.

Carlys law has already passed both houses in Alabama and was signed by the governor for medicinal oil usage.

http://blog.al.com/wire/2014/04/gov_bentley_signs_carlys_law_t.html


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Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: jnall] #1131918
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Originally Posted By: jnall
I feel sick, going to the coast. slap

lol
I was at a physical therapy appointment for my knee once and another guy was pretty much there for the same problem. He asked if they recommended the medical maryJ, lol. They told him they're not doctors and continued to punish him...

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: timbercruiser] #1131984
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My question is if I get a script for some afgan will my insurance pay for a good quality water bong or do I have to make it?


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Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: kodiak06] #1132063
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Originally Posted By: kodiak06
Legal medical maryJ is a blessing for pot heads...


And papa johns, just ask ole Peyton Manning. He bought up a bunch of papa johns in Colorado and sales are higher than ever.


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Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: timbercruiser] #1132116
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Here is my view. My brother has lung cancer and has gone through a lot of radiation and kemo. Although not legal in LA. he has used it and the effects were amazing. It greatly reduced the sickness and helped him sleep and eat better. From first hand experience I'm 100% for it.

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: WhiteCityHunter] #1132127
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Originally Posted By: WhiteCityHunter
Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
Next Tuesday, in Florida, the voters will vote on the medicinal marijuana bill. Latest polls show about a 78 to 21 percent lead for the pro medicinal marijuana bill. I'm surprised that the percentage is that high, but not surprised that the bill will pass. I'm going to vote for the bill, I know several people that could benefit from the usage of associated drugs in marijuana that do not have relief from other drugs.


I'm not going to vote for Amendment 2. I'm for medicinal marijuana, but there's too many loopholes in this law for me to vote on it. Good idea, but there's too much junk attached to the amendment for me to vote for it. Damn attorneys and politicos screwed it up. I want cancer patients and other terminal patients to be able to use it legally, THATS IT. This law leaves the door wide open.


I haven't read the law but agree to your point.

Having watched 2 people die of cancer with recent time, it is terrible watching your love ones pounded with pills that may themselves be some of what kills them. Pills that have severe side effects. Smoking or eating cannibus could help with the pain and nausea with little to no side effects. I don't think that it is or will cure cancer but if it helps relieve some of the symptoms they should be able to legally obtain it.

No I don't think that the people who want it for "anxiety" or "depression " should automatically be put into the same patient category as the cancer patient. Maybe a case to case situation but a guy smoking it to not feel depressed and a guy smoking because he's 6ft tall and weighs 100lbs and has no desire to eat are totally different situations.

Like others have said, just because it's made legal doesn't mean thousands of new users. People who want to smoke are going to wether its legal or not.

I also agree with the alcohol statement. A lot more drunks kill people everyday than potheads.


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100% for medicinal marijuana, and should be legal to smoke for anyone over the age of 25.


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Originally Posted By: swamp_fever2002
100% for medicinal marijuana, and should be legal to smoke for anyone over the age of 25.


Out of curiosity, why make the age higher than the legal age for booze and cigs?

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