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Medicinal Marijuana #1131284
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Next Tuesday, in Florida, the voters will vote on the medicinal marijuana bill. Latest polls show about a 78 to 21 percent lead for the pro medicinal marijuana bill. I'm surprised that the percentage is that high, but not surprised that the bill will pass. I'm going to vote for the bill, I know several people that could benefit from the usage of associated drugs in marijuana that do not have relief from other drugs.

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: timbercruiser] #1131297
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I would vote yes, myself.


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Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: timbercruiser] #1131305
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Me too. There are lots of prescription drugs that are harmful if abused, but they're not banned. Don't see why this should be any different. My guess is that the pharmaceutical companies are the biggest opponents.

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: timbercruiser] #1131315
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I think it's ridiculous that we have laws against marijuana and not tobacco.


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Woooo, now cowboy. Keep my dip the h€!! out of this....

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: 59Hunter] #1131321
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Should be a no brainer. Hope it passes.


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Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: timbercruiser] #1131325
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Yes.


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Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: timbercruiser] #1131330
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Unfortunately even if a bill was to pass and you had a valid medical reason to try it as a treatment you could still lose your job for failing a drug test at work. I'd vote yes as well.


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Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: jsh1904] #1131333
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Legal medical maryJ is a blessing for pot heads...

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After a state passes medical maryJ, it will only be a few years before that state prolly passes to just make it legal for everyone.

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: Vulkanman] #1131338
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Originally Posted By: Vulkanman
I think it's ridiculous that we have laws against marijuana and not tobacco.


No kidding - its stupid. Alcohol too. I've seen much more damage from those two than the other.

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: timbercruiser] #1131347
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Cannibus oil has some great medicinal uses and there is even strong evidence of its effectiveness in treating certain cancers. Smoking it provides none of these and the law will result in a bunch of scripts being written for people that used to have to go to their dealer for pot. I know it helps ease pain for cancer sufferers and increases appetite in diseased patients but they will be a small percentage of the scripts written just like in California. I'm not against legalization in a perfect world but we already have enough mind numbed abusers of the system and this will only add to it.


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Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: roadkill] #1131348
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Originally Posted By: roadkill
Originally Posted By: Vulkanman
I think it's ridiculous that we have laws against marijuana and not tobacco.


No kidding - its stupid. Alcohol too. I've seen much more damage from those two than the other.


True but, they make too much money in taxes to mess with those items. Beer don't kill, drunks do, same as with guns but, you see which one the gumment wants to take away.

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: kodiak06] #1131359
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Well I am a Florida resident and would really like to see this pass.I am not a mind numbed abuser but it would benefit me personally and I have seen how it helped a friend who had access to every narcotic available and found smoking worked best for him.I hope your poll numbers are right, but the last polls I saw did not look good. It will take 60%. I actually am surprised at the level of opposition, but the last election proved that the majority of voters are either ignorant or just plain stoopid. Crazy world we live in where queers can get married but they will put you in jail for a joint.

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: timbercruiser] #1131406
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Looks like there are dozens of polls out there, I don't know which ones would be correct, but it does show that some polls are trending down as to the passage of Amendment 2.

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: bill] #1131407
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Originally Posted By: bill
Cannibus oil has some great medicinal uses and there is even strong evidence of its effectiveness in treating certain cancers. Smoking it provides none of these and the law will result in a bunch of scripts being written for people that used to have to go to their dealer for pot. I know it helps ease pain for cancer sufferers and increases appetite in diseased patients but they will be a small percentage of the scripts written just like in California. I'm not against legalization in a perfect world but we already have enough mind numbed abusers of the system and this will only add to it.



I would imagine that if there really was "strong evidence" that somebody in another country would have already developed this cure for cancer and would have legally protected it & been selling it here for about $1000 a pill, they wouldn't be able to make them as fast as they sell them.
It has some legitimate uses, but I doubt curing any diseases is really one of them, it's one of those things that the pro-pot crowd likes to claim in a very vague, non-specific way.
People like it because it makes them feel good, isn't that really reason enough?
I also don't think there would be a sudden surge in the number of people smoking it. A few people might try it, but I don't think it would be a significant number. There hasn't been a dramatic increase in the amount of homos in states where they legalized non-gender specific marriage, has there? Or have I just missed a wave of people who developed a sudden urge to try buggery?


Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: timbercruiser] #1131427
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
Next Tuesday, in Florida, the voters will vote on the medicinal marijuana bill. Latest polls show about a 78 to 21 percent lead for the pro medicinal marijuana bill. I'm surprised that the percentage is that high, but not surprised that the bill will pass. I'm going to vote for the bill, I know several people that could benefit from the usage of associated drugs in marijuana that do not have relief from other drugs.


I'm not going to vote for Amendment 2. I'm for medicinal marijuana, but there's too many loopholes in this law for me to vote on it. Good idea, but there's too much junk attached to the amendment for me to vote for it. Damn attorneys and politicos screwed it up. I want cancer patients and other terminal patients to be able to use it legally, THATS IT. This law leaves the door wide open.

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Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: Vulkanman] #1131440
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And up pops the ignorance. There are no claims that pot cures anything. Its use is for the alleviation of pain, nausea and other symptoms of disease. You are right in that the only reason anyone who uses it is to feel better, in some cases with a legitimate physical reason. For those opposed lets do a hypothetical case study. The patient is a middle aged, successful professional with very severe osteoarthritis of both shoulders and hips. One hip was recently replaced and the other joint groups will go in the next 6 mo.-2 years. On the pain scale a 3-4 is a good day, a bad day is just bad. The patient doesn't drink alcohol and the use of addictive narcotics is a really bad idea.Prescribed non-narcotic pain relievers have been tried and are about useless. His current options are pretty much just suck it up and hurt all day, every day or self prescribe an illegal substance that has shown itself to be effective, even though there are potential legal consequences.

What say the peanut gallery?

Re: Medicinal Marijuana [Re: timbercruiser] #1131448
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I think legalizing marijuana forces the drug cartel's hand into smuggling more of the harsher substances to fill whatever void is made by not shipping regular amounts of pot. Possession needs to be decriminalized and manufacturing still be illegal until we can figure out better ways to secure the border.

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Brad, if your post was directed at my "ignorance", I was just addressing the "Cannibus oil has some great medicinal uses and there is even strong evidence of its effectiveness in treating certain cancers" statement, it's a common theme in the pro-pot crowd. There are a lot of claims about derivatives & oils and so forth, usually vague and with a reference to "other countries where it's not regulated.

I'm ignorant, but it's mostly apparent in my dealings with my wife. I have no problem with legalizing pot or any other "natural" substance, but with the caveat that no tax dollars should be used to treat, help or cure anything that people do to themselves of their own free will. If you can grow it & eat it, smoke it or rub into your skin & you enjoy it, what right does the government have to make it a crime?
Some of the synthetic drugs and painkillers have to be regulated because of their inherent nature, as should tobacco once it was evident that the manufacturers add substances to it to make it more addictive.


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