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Hunting club for profit #1122037
10/22/14 05:05 PM
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thirtyotsix Offline OP
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Has anyone on here ever felt like they joined a cub and then all of the sudden you get the bad feeling that the guy running the club is a for profit. Kind of guy hiding behind the club rules of camp fees, and you know we don't have any turkey hunters in the club so I may lease out some turkey rights in the spring, but not go as far as telling you you cant turkey hunt. And oh by the way most of the members live out of state and you hear, I don't like people hunting during the week. Just wanted to know if anyone on here had a similar situation ever? Oh and by the way you get trail cam picks of him guiding hunters during turkey season that are not members.

Last edited by thirtyotsix; 10/22/14 05:08 PM.

With politics being a career, a swamp is the obvious consequence
Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: thirtyotsix] #1122045
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which club do you speak of and yes to your question


Originally Posted by Johntravis89
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: thirtyotsix] #1122046
10/22/14 05:08 PM
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The Motts are still at it???


Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty
I'm the paterfamilias
Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: Dkhargroves] #1122047
10/22/14 05:10 PM
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Right now I would not want to say. I have leased my own property the past few years and stepped up to join a trophy club for a considerable amount of money hoping to have a chance to kill a blackbelt buck.


With politics being a career, a swamp is the obvious consequence
Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: thirtyotsix] #1122054
10/22/14 05:15 PM
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You got pm


Originally Posted by Johntravis89
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: thirtyotsix] #1122101
10/22/14 06:01 PM
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Mobile,AL/ Baldwin, Al
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Uh oh!

Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: thirtyotsix] #1122103
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No offence but I wouldn't do much if I didn't make some kind of profit

Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: ] #1122113
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No offense taken, I just like things to be transparent. There are always the three guys who have a different agenda


With politics being a career, a swamp is the obvious consequence
Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: thirtyotsix] #1122116
10/22/14 06:23 PM
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Don't blame ya

Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: thirtyotsix] #1122182
10/23/14 01:38 AM
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Sounds like you are in the type club where all members are equal, but a few more equal than the rest. Not a good situation.


Micah 6:8
Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: thirtyotsix] #1122187
10/23/14 01:48 AM
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I would just like to find a fellow smart enough to run a quality hunting club for a PROFIT!

I usually wind up spending MORE than any of the other members. And, it kinda irritates me when they say anything about how much they spent......or, what they have done........when they have never even asked about the 'Big Picture' or taken into account all the BS phone calls, landowner relations, neighbor relations, coordination, and just TIME and EFFORT involved in keeping it all together.

If your hunting is less than you expect, or there are legitimate Rules being broken/not enforced, then that is legit.
BUT, if you are just worrying about things that you suspect and do not directly affect you, save yourself the grief and just HUNT and have FUN!

Not to mention, most Club Presidents are the leaseholders as well. Few are truly 'elected'. So, in a sense.......it is their lease. And, although I do not, I do know many people who basically front the money for the lease and then sell enough memberships to cover all costs....including their own. And, after doing it the way I have for years, I do not blame them one bit!

Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: thirtyotsix] #1122198
10/23/14 02:05 AM
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We pay a pretty good chunk for our lease. Mainly to keep memberships low. Guest fees/guest trophy fees/guest killing an unqualified deer fees are all really expensive. One would think that pres is making money but every year he puts LOTS of time and money Into improvements as in adding feilds and quality shooting houses. He does a print out every year so we can see where the money goes. I know he is being honest because I'm related to him and he's like s brother to me. Having said that I wish HE COULD OR DID make a profit. I would have no problem with it. Now that's just my/our situation. If I found myself in a situation like yours my opinion may be different.


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Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: 257wbymag] #1122224
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
The Motts are still at it???


Sounds like it!!

Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: thirtyotsix] #1122233
10/23/14 02:42 AM
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I have been in clubs where i thought the president was not paying anything or very little. Aggravated me for a long time and I got out. Now I have my own club where everyone pays the same amount. Next year I have vowed to only pay a half membership because of the amount of money and time I spend getting everything ready. Running a club is a lot of work that most members never see. They show up and hunt and have only worked maybe one work day. Running a club is not easy and requires extra money and a lot of extra time.

Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: Clayton] #1122239
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I know of lots of clubs that the Prez and friends never pay 1 dime. If its a good club accept it , if not move on! Lots of Prez and Vice Prez get their dues for free. I know I have before only payed 1/2 price. But I had to collect money, pick-up seed, and show new members around , so I feel like it was a fair deal.

Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: thirtyotsix] #1122241
10/23/14 02:51 AM
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Running a club is almost a year round head ache.

Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: timbercruiser] #1122255
10/23/14 03:01 AM
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Not necessarily for profit but for free hunting for the core members. I was in a club in Bullock Co. that the pres. and his son and good buddy had several hundred acres just a few miles away that only they could hunt. If you did the money math all the other members were paying for their private lease and their memberships were free.


jmlane
Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: thirtyotsix] #1122262
10/23/14 03:07 AM
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Ive heard it at almost every club ive been in, people thinking the president is not paying. Best way to look at it is if its worth $X amount to you for the hunting then quit worrying about it. If its not then find another club. I was in one club where thats all I heard but also knew how much the lease was, the seed the wood on club shooting houses, gates and normally it adds up. Good club presidents really shouldnt pay the same if you ask me. And by the way ive never been a club president. We all hunt for fun worrying about little things just takes the enjoyment out of it.

Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: thirtyotsix] #1122270
10/23/14 03:17 AM
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If you only knew.....
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If you wanna run a club for profit...turn it into an outfitter.... People in the club should know up front if they're trying to turn a profit... Otherwise it's stealing under false pretenses...


Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves...

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Re: Hunting club for profit [Re: Tru-Talker] #1122280
10/23/14 03:25 AM
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I dont see what the big deal is! IF YOU get into a club its up to YOU to ask all the right question. The club Prez should not have to give you info YOU dont ask for. If YOU dont ask queations like= How many acres? How many Members? How much does the seed cost? How much per acre is lease? How much is insurance? and so on. Then its YOUR fault if you join and find out latter than someone makes a tiny profit!!!

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