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Re: Diamond backs [Re: centralala] #1096478
10/01/14 11:40 AM
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Did you take a photo or keep the snake? Can you find it again?

Matt Brock on here would love to document it that far north...at least he has said in the past to let him know if anyone finds one anywhere close to Montgomery on the south or further north.


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Re: Diamond backs [Re: centralala] #1096479
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The map is roughly the coastal plain. There is not suitable habitat out of it. I believe centralala saw it, but as he describes himself it is a fluke. Could be there on its own but not as likely as it got some help to get there. Remember the shark at the boat ramp in guntersville a couple of years ago........well it was there alright.

Here is just as good a question as if anyone has spotted them outside of the zone on the map, do you also see gopher tortoises and their burrows?

Re: Diamond backs [Re: Clem] #1096486
10/01/14 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted By: Clem
Is that border the Fall Line or there'bouts?

Appears to associated with the upper/inner coastal plain fall line



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Re: Diamond backs [Re: centralala] #1096491
10/01/14 11:54 AM
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I would assume the reason there's a distinct territorial line would HAVE to have something to do with (1) soil type, (2) other habitat requirements that only occur in that far southern zone, (3) preferred prey?
I would be curious to know if others see timber rattlers down south?


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Re: Diamond backs [Re: ikillbux] #1096493
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Originally Posted By: ikillbux
I would assume the reason there's a distinct territorial line would HAVE to have something to do with (1) soil type, (2) other habitat requirements that only occur in that far southern zone, (3) preferred prey?
I would be curious to know if others see timber rattlers down south?



Yes, there are timber rattlers in every county in the state.

Re: Diamond backs [Re: Cletus] #1096495
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Originally Posted By: Cletus
The map is roughly the coastal plain. There is not suitable habitat out of it. I believe centralala saw it, but as he describes himself it is a fluke. Could be there on its own but not as likely as it got some help to get there. Remember the shark at the boat ramp in guntersville a couple of years ago........well it was there alright.

Here is just as good a question as if anyone has spotted them outside of the zone on the map, do you also see gopher tortoises and their burrows?


I KNOW it's not right. That is the reason I posted it here. No gopher tortoises that I have seen but it was my understanding that "Gobbler" on here was suppose to bring some in along with Indigo snakes. Don't think it ever happened though.

As far as finding again, well, things don't last long on Hwy. 82. I doubt much is left.

Re: Diamond backs [Re: centralala] #1096497
10/01/14 11:58 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I believe you saw it and it was there. It's how it got there that I would wonder about.

Re: Diamond backs [Re: centralala] #1096534
10/01/14 12:39 PM
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Yes timbers down here too but in my experience DBs outnumber them.


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Re: Diamond backs [Re: centralala] #1096621
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Going to be our 6th yr in alabama and have yet to see a rattlesnake of any kind. But last summer I did get a pic of a gopher tortoise on a gravel rd last summer in Monroe co.


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Re: Diamond backs [Re: centralala] #1096636
10/01/14 02:25 PM
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Got both here but I see more timber rattlers than diamondbacks. Been a while since I have seen a diamondback in fact. Plenty of gophers...pretty much any sandy foodplot has several gopher holes.

Re: Diamond backs [Re: marshmud991] #1096640
10/01/14 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: marshmud991
Going to be our 6th yr in alabama and have yet to see a rattlesnake of any kind. But last summer I did get a pic of a gopher tortoise on a gravel rd last summer in Monroe co.


I've lived in NE AL all my life, and I've only seen 1 or 2 rattlesnakes in the wild.

Copper heads on the other hand...


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Re: Diamond backs [Re: centralala] #1096792
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I've been in the timber business in NW Fl and S Alabama for about 40 years. I rarely find rattlesnakes in the woods, occasionally ,but not that often. I find more close to barns, houses or crossing the highway. Most of the places in the woods a snake would starve for something to eat.

Re: Diamond backs [Re: centralala] #1096796
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More diamond backs than timber rattlers on the south end of Monroe county from what I've seen,a buddy of mine kills 5-6 big diamondbacks a year a rarely kills a timber on that end,he killed a hoss of a DB during turkey season,he almost sat down on it

Re: Diamond backs [Re: straycat] #1096826
10/01/14 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: straycat
Did you take a photo or keep the snake? Can you find it again?

Matt Brock on here would love to document it that far north...at least he has said in the past to let him know if anyone finds one anywhere close to Montgomery on the south or further north.


This is correct.

We would like to document DB's that far north. I have not heard of them up in that part of the world.

When I managed property in south AL I never saw one north of 84 and rarely saw them period.

Re: Diamond backs [Re: gobblebox] #1096847
10/01/14 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: gobblebox
More diamond backs than timber rattlers on the south end of Monroe county from what I've seen,a buddy of mine kills 5-6 big diamondbacks a year a rarely kills a timber on that end,he killed a hoss of a DB during turkey season,he almost sat down on it


Interesting thing though once you get into the hills north of Monroeville, you see way more timbers.

I grew up in Baldwin Co and only remember ever seeing 1 timber here and that was about 20 years ago. I've come across countless diamondbacks, but it seems that they have been a lot more scarce in the past few years. I think the population overall is way down from what it used to be.

Re: Diamond backs [Re: centralala] #1096854
10/01/14 04:14 PM
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I killed a diamond back in my parents yard in Bermuda a few years ago, that's the only one I've seen north of Hwy 84.


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Re: Diamond backs [Re: skintback] #1097091
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Cletus has me thinking. How did it get here? It is just 1 snake on a main thoroughfare. Was it riding on a piece of equipment being hauled from SA? Someone killed it and threw it on their 4 wheeler trailer headed home an fell off? As I said, they are not here that I'm aware of unless they are invading. Now, if I see another one, I'll get it and won't believe 2 were brought in and found by me. I am fully aware they are not suppose to be this far north.

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