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What goes through your mind? #1079865
09/17/14 04:09 AM
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What kind of mental techniques do you use? Just trying to learn something Here...

You are in a stand 20 feet up
Your single pin sight is set to 25 yards
A deer is 35 yards away from you
What goes through your mind as you take this shot?

Again, 20 feet up and sight is set to 25 yards
A deer is 15 yards away from you
What goes through your mind as you take this shot?




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Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1079885
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I go through each of my steps like I do when practicing and concentrate on my pin and the spot I aim to hit, and try not get to involved in horns or the deer. I also make sure Im taking slow breathes and try not to huff and puff. All that said, last year I seemed go nuts and do half or none of that. New year try and do better this year. I missed 3 last year. Lol.

Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1079904
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Depends did you sight in at 20 feet up in the tree if not Then the deer at 35 yards hold dead center in the lungs
Deer at 15 yards aim at heart.

Pull back, anchor, Pick the one hair that you want to hit, Release, Don't think about anything but that arrow hitting that hair.


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Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1079905
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I've got a single pin HHA optimizer sight and it is adjustable. In these questions I am assuming that the pin is set to the 25 yard mark. Marks were measured on the ground, not in a tree.




I don't want to pass quietly into the night. I want to slide in sideways kickin and screamin
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Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1079944
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sighting in from the ground to sighting in from a stand can make you shoot Different.

If sighted in on the ground with one pin set not movable at 25 yards
Than shooting from 20 feet up you will shoot really high at 15 and a few in. low at 35, depending on bow of course. You will also Probably shoot high at 25 yards from 20 feet up but only by an inch or two.

I have adjustable but it is locked on at 30 yards. I If I sight in on the ground I shoot about 2 in. low at 30 that will put me about 2 in. high at 15. In a tree at 30 I am dead on and at 15 I will be about 4 in high so I aim at the heart on any deer closer than 20 yards. If he is at 35 I still aim dead on for lung shot and it drops right in there even if he jumps a little.


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Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1080008
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I don't seem to have that problem. Might be because of 5 pins and 320fps.


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Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1080009
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when in doubt, aim low...


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Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1080010
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I always aim bottom third. Find a hair and bury the pin.

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Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1080043
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I have five pin sight. That being said, I don't how I hit chit. Pin goes from hooves to tail to ears I get so tore up.lol

Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1080101
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OH Sh*t DEER

Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1080104
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LOL, sounds like me




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Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Jpipererp] #1080110
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Im watching the deers eyes and head and picking fractions of a second to make my moves when they are looking away. Once I get to draw instinct takes over, I just have to MAKE myself aim LOW.


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Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1080120
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If I've practiced enough in the off season, nothing goes through my head when I make my shot. It's just automatic with zero thinking involved.


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Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1080172
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Take a look at this chart and you will see that the yardage from the base of your tree to the deer will be around 6-10 yds LESS than the actual distance from YOU to the deer (assuming 20 ft up the tree). That horizontal distance is what you care about. Long story short, aim a little bit low



http://archeryreport.com/2010/06/uphill-downhill-shots-adjust-proper-arrow-impact/

Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1080174
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Thats a great chart, it does all the trigonometry for ya.

Now another question ...

- Your single pin sight is set to 25 yards
- A deer is 35 yards away from you ACCORDING TO YOUR RANGE FINDER, NOT GROUND DISTANCE

Also :

- Again, 20 feet up and sight is set to 25 yards
A deer is 15 yards away from you ACCORDING TO YOUR RANGE FINDER, NOT GROUND DISTANCE

How do you adjust for the drop then? Surely it's going to have an effect of some sort




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Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1080192
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I have all of these routines I do when practicing, when there is a 90 lb doe standing there, all of that goes out the window. Get drawn, anchor, good release and hope all your practice and hard work shows.


Give me bout 15 more minutes, I was dreamin about beavers..........
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Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1080220
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Originally Posted By: Rocket62
Thats a great chart, it does all the trigonometry for ya.

Now another question ...

- Your single pin sight is set to 25 yards
- A deer is 35 yards away from you ACCORDING TO YOUR RANGE FINDER, NOT GROUND DISTANCE

Also :

- Again, 20 feet up and sight is set to 25 yards
A deer is 15 yards away from you ACCORDING TO YOUR RANGE FINDER, NOT GROUND DISTANCE

How do you adjust for the drop then? Surely it's going to have an effect of some sort



At 35 you will be maybe 2-3 in. low depending on your bow. So if you aim like most do at the lungs in the middle your arrow will drop perfect. Even if the deer jumps the string a bit it should still put you in the kill zone of double lungs.


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Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1080254
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The first scenario I pass for a closer shot. The second scenario I get in position to draw(which I've already practiced), pick a small spot on the deer's kill zone and stay concentrated on it all the way thru the release. Then climb down and go get the truck and some dragging help.


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Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1080296
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Originally Posted By: Rocket62
Thats a great chart, it does all the trigonometry for ya.

Now another question ...

- Your single pin sight is set to 25 yards
- A deer is 35 yards away from you ACCORDING TO YOUR RANGE FINDER, NOT GROUND DISTANCE

Also :

- Again, 20 feet up and sight is set to 25 yards
A deer is 15 yards away from you ACCORDING TO YOUR RANGE FINDER, NOT GROUND DISTANCE

How do you adjust for the drop then? Surely it's going to have an effect of some sort



Put the pin 2" above the bottom of the deer's chest in both cases. At 15yds you will hit a little high but the deer will not have time to duck the arrow. At 35yrs you will hit low but at that distance the deer will have dropped a full body width and drop right into the arrow. That is if the deer decides to react, but that is something you cannot control. I read an article one time that said 50% of bucks make some attempt to jump string but 95% of does do. In my experience this seems to be true. I always aim low.


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Re: What goes through your mind? [Re: Rocket62] #1080301
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Originally Posted By: Rocket62
Thats a great chart, it does all the trigonometry for ya.

Now another question ...

- Your single pin sight is set to 25 yards
- A deer is 35 yards away from you ACCORDING TO YOUR RANGE FINDER, NOT GROUND DISTANCE

Also :

- Again, 20 feet up and sight is set to 25 yards
A deer is 15 yards away from you ACCORDING TO YOUR RANGE FINDER, NOT GROUND DISTANCE

How do you adjust for the drop then? Surely it's going to have an effect of some sort



If you look at that chart, you'll see that in the first example the horizontal distance is 28.7 yds (about 6 yds less than your rangefinder). So your pin is set on 25 yds, right? Put the pin right square in the vitals...

Second example, no numbers charted for that scenario, but 20 ft up and 15 yds (rangefinder), it's gonna be less than 10 yds horizontal. Gonna have to aim little low.

I keep my single pin sight on 28 yds...if the deer is 10-15 yds, I aim a couple inches low. 20-30 right on, and 35 yds (my personal max) I aim couple inches high.

All you really need to remember is that if you're 20 ft up the tree, then whatever distance you see on your rangefinder will be LONGER (by 6-10 yds, out to about 40 yds) than what you need to account for. The arrow is only acted on by gravity for the distance that it travels parallel to the earth, or rather only the horizontal distance.

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