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Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: getoutdoors] #1076328
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I have two boys that I whip and I had loving parents who whipped my tail too.
If you whip with a switch, it's gonna leave welps, and a belt will leave hickey marks. Very fine line here certainly, but more whippings are needed today, not less IMO.


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Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: getoutdoors] #1076340
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Peterson has been indicted.

Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: getoutdoors] #1076467
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It's not necessarily how the injury looks, but how many marks there were. Looks like he got carried away.

Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: Rebelman] #1076469
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Originally Posted By: Rebelman

Originally Posted By: Beer Belly

Thanks for the picture. That is too far. To me that is worse than what Ray Rice did.





I disagree completely. Peterson was trying to be a father. Rice was trying to be a thug. Intent is the difference.


Correct Reb, Peterson was probably very angry and went too far, bet his momma and/or granny did that to him.

Here's one I like to tell on switchins' , think about this one, in elementary and JR High school I had a bus driver that used switches on the bus! Yep, he'd light the trouble makers up right on the bus, he didn't take you to the principals office. He'd be in prison for a loooooong time doing something like that now.



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Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: getoutdoors] #1076474
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Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: getoutdoors] #1076480
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Last year Peterson's 2yr old son was BEATEN to DEATH. The kid was at his mothers house. Is DEATH enough beating for you discipline tough guys.

You need to read the story and look at the pictures. He hit the kid in the balls. Is that okay with you tough guys. Hitting a kid in the balls with a switch that you are swinging hard enough to break the skin. He is a great dad, just looking out for what is best for his son.


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Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: Beer Belly] #1076497
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Originally Posted By: Beer Belly

Last year Peterson's 2yr old son was BEATEN to DEATH. The kid was at his mothers house. Is DEATH enough beating for you discipline tough guys.

You need to read the story and look at the pictures. He hit the kid in the balls. Is that okay with you tough guys. Hitting a kid in the balls with a switch that you are swinging hard enough to break the skin. He is a great dad, just looking out for what is best for his son.






Any one that sees the pictures and reads what happened to a 4 YEAR OLD and is okay with it is phucked in the head....that is just my opinion. YMMV. If your first reaction to misbehavior by your child is to beat them then you have real mental issues. Physical violence should be your last option if you are incapable of controlling your child any other way. Half of y'all would be more pissed if someone beat their dog like he beat that child. If you are so angry at a child that you beat him like this one was then you need to walk away.


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Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: getoutdoors] #1076550
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Anybody that thinks what Peterson did to his 4 year old child is right has something wrong with them. I don't care if your mama, daddy, grandma or grandpa whipped/beat you with everything within reach from a belt to a limb, it doesn't make it right. That is crossing the line from family discipline to family violence and if it is part of your choice to discipline a child like that you need to be in jail also.

Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: getoutdoors] #1076555
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Ive never had to whip my kid like that. But growing up my parents would use a switch. It dont take much to break the skin with a switch. Ive had it done b4. A thin switch will wrap around a few times and leave some marks. A green privet is the worse.

Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: globe] #1076613
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Originally Posted By: globe
. . . . .I had loving parents who whipped my tail.

If you whip with a switch, it's gonna leave welps, and a belt will leave hickey marks. Very fine line here certainly, but more whippings are needed today, not less IMO.


Momma and Daddy never heard of time out. He wore us out and it still makes me walk the right line even today.


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Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: getoutdoors] #1077294
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they should stay out of his buisness. any switch is going to leave marks like that. theres nothing wrong with this in alot of parents eyes. you have to discipline at an early age to get good results. I personally use a belt, if he wants to use a switch thats his own buisness.

Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: getoutdoors] #1077539
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There are a lot of opinions on this one. I'm neutral until I get more facts if/when they ever come out. It makes me wonder what they would do to my middle school shop teacher today, Mr. McBride? He had a assortment of paddles, most resembled a small boat paddle. Some had holes drilled in them to increase velocity. If someone was disciplined for anything by other teachers they'd send them to the shop for punishment. He'd have boys and girls bend over and take hold of a workbench, and the number of licks depended on the offense. I've seen him lift people's feet of the ground with double handed swings! He was/is a good man and straightened a lot of kids out. One thing for sure was you rarely saw someone come back for more! I never got my ass whupped by him but did build a few paddles smile


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Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: getoutdoors] #1077547
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In my days growing up I've had to pick my own switches, had a wooden spoon broke over my arse, and many well deserved belt lashing. Hand spanking hurts your hand as much as the other person.

Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: getoutdoors] #1077574
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Had a buddy and his brother both told to go pick switches cause they woudln't quit arguing. My buddy picked a good finger thick switch but his brother picked some tiny weak switch. When they got back to their dad he saw what had happened and told them to beat each other!

Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: getoutdoors] #1077578
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My father used a belt on us and I ALWAYS had blue stripes on my legs and butt. And I EARNED it many times.


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Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: getoutdoors] #1077594
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I got the belt, the hairbrush, the switch - whatever was handy and I'm sure some of them left marks...but I deserved it every time I got it! That being said, I'm pretty sure when I was 4 I probably only got a light slap on the butt with the hand, not a full swing of a switch or any other objects. The good spankings came as I was truly old enough to know better.

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Originally Posted By: hallb
I got the belt, the hairbrush, the switch - whatever was handy and I'm sure some of them left marks...but I deserved it every time I got it! That being said, I'm pretty sure when I was 4 I probably only got a light slap on the butt with the hand, not a full swing of a switch or any other objects. The good spankings came as I was truly old enough to know better.
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Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: getoutdoors] #1077714
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I have defended some child abuse claims against black males. It is ingrained in them from their upbringing to "whoop" the kids. They don't wait for them to get older either. It can be a big problem. They are much more violent as a whole when it comes to discipline then you can ever imagine. There is a line between discipline and abuse. I have seen it crossed to the point of death.

Think about it like this. Would you tolerate that abuse to your child from someone other than you? If your child came home from school with those marks, would you be okay with it? Simply because someone is your child doesn't allow you to do something to them that would be criminal if done by someone else.

I am not anti spanking or switching. My son has been spanked plenty of times. But, again, there is a difference in discipline and abuse. Knowing how hard to hit, when to stop and what is age appropriate is the key.

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I don't know all the facts on this one so that will have to wait. As for Spankings and Whoopins Yes there should be more of them going around. My cousin was a good example of one that needed the discipline. His dad would talk to him, Put in Time out, and Take away his video games. Well that didn't work and the direction he was heading was Prison. My uncle sent him to live with me and My dad. My dad was a Hard arse Vietnam vet and retired Chief of Police and he would whip that boy and punish him with psychical labor. This last Saturday My cousin got married, has a baby girl and a house that he bought for his family. If it wasn't for My dads punishments he would have been in Jail and he will tell you that also. There is a saying going around on the news right now And it is The woosafacation of America. No keeping score in games, no tag on play grounds, For fear that someones feelings get hurt. Life is tough and you have to roll with the punches. As for Punishment it teaches, for every action there will be a reaction and consequences.


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Re: Thoughts on the Adrian Peterson Situation [Re: getoutdoors] #1077900
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I know this for a fact, kids aren't afraid of adults anymore BECAUSE adults don't scare them. Teachers don't get respect because they " can't " spank. Parents don't get respect because they "don't" spank. Spanking in school and at home has declined over the last two decades, and so has children's respect for their elders and authority. If you have a child that has never required a good ol' fashioned butt whipping, then you are in the EXTREME minority, and wouldn't understand. I'm not saying Peterson was right or wrong, just that some spanking is needed to instill fear and respect in a child.


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