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Re: Food Plot Terminology [Re: 257wbymag] #1069338
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Originally Posted By: 257wbymag
I went and ran my disk for hours today. I just like the tractor seat time and the smell of fresh worked dirt.

Therapy my friend. Nice disc you picked up by the way. Congrats!


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Re: Food Plot Terminology [Re: 257wbymag] #1069356
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I did. Bought a 10 ft Tufline. So far I like it. My 65 HP kubota pulls it with no problem at all.


You buy new? I'd love to have a good 8 or 9 ft wheel disk. I had a 10 ft JD , but it was just a little too wide for our mountain roads, so I sold it. They do pretty work.



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Re: Food Plot Terminology [Re: N2TRKYS] #1069612
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
I've read where you said a healthy soil only has to be "topped off" with nutrients. How many lbs of K and P, recommended by a soil test, do you consider "topping off?"


Every soil is going to be different. You may naturally have a soil that holds onto nutrients better than my sand pit. Therefore the rate at which my nutrients leach from the soil may vary greatly from your soil. I can’t just give you absolute numbers that will fit everyone’s individual prescription. This is something that you will have to use your own soil tests to assess. If you have gotten tests done every year then look back over the tests and look at how well the soil held onto the nutrients after you applied them. Then compare those trends moving forward. The goal for all of us is to try and build up a bank of stored nutrients and then efficiently recycle those nutrients through the plant and back to the soil without having to continually add mass amounts of inputs that will ultimately get used very inefficiently and end up in the ditch.

I will say this too…..Looking at a soil test is just one of the many ways in which you can monitor improvements in your soil health. The majority of them will be things that you monitor in the field with your eyes and hands.

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Originally Posted By: Clayton
As always CNC very impressive. Lots of respect for what you do. I always enjoy your posts


Thanks Clayton....I appreciate the comment. smile


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Re: Food Plot Terminology [Re: CNC] #1069780
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Originally Posted By: CNC
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
I've read where you said a healthy soil only has to be "topped off" with nutrients. How many lbs of K and P, recommended by a soil test, do you consider "topping off?"


Every soil is going to be different. You may naturally have a soil that holds onto nutrients better than my sand pit. Therefore the rate at which my nutrients leach from the soil may vary greatly from your soil. I can’t just give you absolute numbers that will fit everyone’s individual prescription. This is something that you will have to use your own soil tests to assess. If you have gotten tests done every year then look back over the tests and look at how well the soil held onto the nutrients after you applied them. Then compare those trends moving forward. The goal for all of us is to try and build up a bank of stored nutrients and then efficiently recycle those nutrients through the plant and back to the soil without having to continually add mass amounts of inputs that will ultimately get used very inefficiently and end up in the ditch.

I will say this too…..Looking at a soil test is just one of the many ways in which you can monitor improvements in your soil health. The majority of them will be things that you monitor in the field with your eyes and hands.



I was asking about your plots not mine. How much fertilizer do you consider alot or a little to add to your plots?


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Re: Food Plot Terminology [Re: NightHunter] #1069803
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N2TRKYS - I believe your question is being avoided...

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I don’t think you understand enough about soil tests to understand what you are asking and trying to compare. However, to appease the hoard….I will add 50 lbs of 34-0-0 at planting time and I may or may not add 50-100 lbs of 0-0-60 just depending on how well my soil test shows that I’ve held onto the potash I applied back during the spring. I'm sure my summer plot has taken up some of that K. Now that’s pretty irrelevant but you guys can draw what ever anecdotal conclusions from it that sound best to you.

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Re: Food Plot Terminology [Re: CNC] #1070039
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Originally Posted By: CNC
I don’t think you understand enough about soil tests to understand what you are asking and trying to compare. However, to appease the hoard….I will add 50 lbs of 34-0-0 at planting time and I may or may not add 50-100 lbs of 0-0-60 just depending on how well my soil test shows that I’ve held onto the potash I applied back during the spring. I'm sure my summer plot has taken up some of that K. Now that’s pretty irrelevant but you guys can draw what ever anecdotal conclusions from it that sound best to you.




What are you talking about? I asked you what you deemed "topping off" for your plots. You have been practicing throw and mow for a while. What's wrong with asking that question? That's why I asked, cause I would've thought that adding fertilizer Spring and Fall would be excessive.


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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
What are you talking about? I asked you what you deemed "topping off" for your plots. You have been practicing throw and mow for a while. What's wrong with asking that question? That's why I asked, cause I would've thought that adding fertilizer Spring and Fall would be excessive.


A couple of short videos to throw into the discussion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apyyIS31tVU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNwdmECsKuo


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Here are a couple longer videos on the general subject of soil health. They are long but they do a very good job of explaining the principles behind of this. For those that are interested, these videos will really help you to understand things better....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4_Qa0D3E1A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhtQ7kfCXTc


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Re: Food Plot Terminology [Re: CNC] #1070250
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Originally Posted By: CNC
Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
What are you talking about? I asked you what you deemed "topping off" for your plots. You have been practicing throw and mow for a while. What's wrong with asking that question? That's why I asked, cause I would've thought that adding fertilizer Spring and Fall would be excessive.


A couple of short videos to throw into the discussion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apyyIS31tVU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNwdmECsKuo



Do any of these videos feature your soil test or your food plots and why you're having to add fertilizer Spring and Fall?


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Re: Food Plot Terminology [Re: N2TRKYS] #1070278
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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Do any of these videos feature your soil test or your food plots and why you're having to add fertilizer Spring and Fall?


Refer to previous explanations on CEC values and sandy soils..... smile


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Re: Food Plot Terminology [Re: NightHunter] #1070290
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I know about the cation exchanges. Our soil improved from last year's soil test to this year's test. I was just asking about your plots. You answered my question with your fertilizing schedule. Thanks.


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Re: Food Plot Terminology [Re: NightHunter] #1070320
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Re: Food Plot Terminology [Re: NightHunter] #1070483
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Where the hell is blumsden???..... grin


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Originally Posted By: CNC
Where the hell is blumsden???..... grin

He found a tractor with a disc and is enjoying himself rofl

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I got better things to do, than to try and convince a bunch of hard cases to try something new. I really don't care how anyone plants their plots.

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I would still consider them "no till" but leave out the drill part. grin


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Originally Posted By: blumsden
I got better things to do, than to try and convince a bunch of hard cases to try something new. I really don't care how anyone plants their plots.


Dayum blumsden…..It sounds like you’ve done went and gone sour on us. I hear you though..... grin


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