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Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: Zzzfog] #1063861
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Can you reveal more specifically what areas of Marengo and Pickens county the deer were collared?

Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: Steve Ditchkoff] #1063914
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Just out of curiosity what is the estimated age range on those off limits orange collared deer?


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Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: Steve Ditchkoff] #1063962
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Great stuff Dr. D. thumbup


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Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: Steve Ditchkoff] #1064012
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Awesome! I'll be on the lookout for the deer collared around the oakmulgee. As someone said before you (or whoever) need to get this message out on facebook ASAP and get it circulating well before bow season. Even in some of the most remote parts of the state people still have smart phones and facebook, so social media could really help in getting the message out. Can't wait to see the results!

Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: Steve Ditchkoff] #1064022
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I would be concerned with deer being let loose that are drugged to the point of not being fit for consumption yet the public has not been properly notified. What happens if someone gets sick? Is auburn liable or the state.

Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: Steve Ditchkoff] #1064414
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nothing they are using to sedate those deer will hurt folks if they eat the deer....


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Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: BhamFred] #1064445
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
nothing they are using to sedate those deer will hurt folks if they eat the deer....


If that's the case.. Why are they saying to wait a year before consuming..... Let me guess... A retired GW knows more than the professionals.... Maybe you went into the wrong profession since you're an expert.... rolleyes


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Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: Steve Ditchkoff] #1064455
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Is this information found anywhere else on the net? I just looked at the Deer Lab site and didn't see it posted there. I can't get outdooralabama to pull up right now. I'd like to email a link to some friends and acquaintances that I dare not direct here. This place has enough foolishness as it is.


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Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: Steve Ditchkoff] #1064456
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I don't know if it will or not, just going by what the people drugging them said.

Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: Tru-Talker] #1064500
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Originally Posted By: Tru-Talker
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
nothing they are using to sedate those deer will hurt folks if they eat the deer....


If that's the case.. Why are they saying to wait a year before consuming..... Let me guess... A retired GW knows more than the professionals.... Maybe you went into the wrong profession since you're an expert.... rolleyes



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Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: Tru-Talker] #1064528
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Originally Posted By: Tru-Talker
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
nothing they are using to sedate those deer will hurt folks if they eat the deer....


If that's the case.. Why are they saying to wait a year before consuming..... Let me guess... A retired GW knows more than the professionals.... Maybe you went into the wrong profession since you're an expert.... rolleyes


you really do not mind showing how effin stupid you are do you???


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Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: bigt] #1064546
09/03/14 02:58 AM
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The orange-collared deer range in age from 1.5 to about 4.5. There are some decent bucks that are collared. Sorry folks. The plus side is that they will be much larger when the study is completed.


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Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: charlie] #1064551
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There are no concerns with the sedation of these animals and them being fit for consumption. Every precaution has been put in place to ensure that there is zero risk.


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Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: Tru-Talker] #1064555
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Originally Posted By: Tru-Talker
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
nothing they are using to sedate those deer will hurt folks if they eat the deer....


If that's the case.. Why are they saying to wait a year before consuming..... Let me guess... A retired GW knows more than the professionals.... Maybe you went into the wrong profession since you're an expert.... rolleyes


We are not saying that one has to wait a year before these deer are fit for consumption. All deer that are harvested this coming year will be months past the date at which they were consumable. The prescribed waiting period for these deer is 30 days following their sedation...and 30 days is in all probability an exaggerated number. Once again, every precaution has been taken, and this protocol has been approved by a multitude of experts on the subject.


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Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: Steve Ditchkoff] #1064566
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Originally Posted By: Steve Ditchkoff
Originally Posted By: Tru-Talker
Originally Posted By: BhamFred
nothing they are using to sedate those deer will hurt folks if they eat the deer....


If that's the case.. Why are they saying to wait a year before consuming..... Let me guess... A retired GW knows more than the professionals.... Maybe you went into the wrong profession since you're an expert.... rolleyes


We are not saying that one has to wait a year before these deer are fit for consumption. All deer that are harvested this coming year will be months past the date at which they were consumable. The prescribed waiting period for these deer is 30 days following their sedation...and 30 days is in all probability an exaggerated number. Once again, every precaution has been taken, and this protocol has been approved by a multitude of experts on the subject.


That's fine...Not arguing but... Why then why this statement...
Originally Posted By: Steve Ditchkoff
Some orange-collared deer might have been darted during this upcoming season, so not only would you be hurting our data collection, but you may very well be harvesting a deer that is not fit for consumption.


I never saw in your post anything about 30 days until just now... Is the only way to know is call?


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Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: Steve Ditchkoff] #1064718
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That is why you don't shoot the orange collared deer. Sounds as though they may be trapping/collaring during the season which could lend itself to deer being harvested within a 30 day widow of of being drugged.

That is how I understand it when I read it...


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Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: NightHunter] #1064736
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Originally Posted By: NightHunter
That is why you don't shoot the orange collared deer. Sounds as though they may be trapping/collaring during the season which could lend itself to deer being harvested within a 30 day widow of of being drugged.

That is how I understand it when I read it...


I understand it....there was no mention of the 30 day window until a few posts ago... Most likely there will be someone take one and disregard the tag anyway....


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Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: Tru-Talker] #1064779
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We will still be putting out a handful of orange collars during the hunting season. The thirty days is irrelevant for these collars because nobody is supposed to be harvesting them.


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Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: Steve Ditchkoff] #1064784
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Originally Posted By: Steve Ditchkoff
We will still be putting out a handful of orange collars during the hunting season. The thirty days is irrelevant for these collars because nobody is supposed to be harvesting them.


Probably won't need anyone to shoot them once the collars get hung up


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Re: Deer with Radio Collars [Re: Steve Ditchkoff] #1064786
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Originally Posted By: Steve Ditchkoff
We will still be putting out a handful of orange collars during the hunting season. The thirty days is irrelevant for these collars because nobody is supposed to be harvesting them.


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