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White clover? #1060154
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How many times do ya'll mow it over the summer? I mowed once just before a rain in June and it came back good. It's tall now and the seed head are brown.Would you mow it again or wait til you top seed in a month?


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Re: White clover? [Re: ridgestalker] #1060181
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Ideally, everytime approximately 1/4 of the plants in the plot put on blooms. (For me generally 1-2 times a month from late April through the middle of October.)

In your case (already gone to seed), spray now if weedy, mow in 2 weeks to 1 month.

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Im waiting about 3 weeks to cut mine again

Re: White clover? [Re: ridgestalker] #1063155
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I only mow mine to keep broadleaf weeds controlled. White clover spreads from underground rhizomes, not seed. Do not mow clover, if it is stressed. Wait for cooler temps, after a rain.

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Originally Posted By: blumsden
I only mow mine to keep broadleaf weeds controlled. White clover spreads from underground rhizomes, not seed. Do not mow clover, if it is stressed. Wait for cooler temps, after a rain.

White clover will go dormant during a deer's summer stress period. Mowing regularly can delay the onset of dormancy or even eliminate it altogether by preventing the plants going to seed. This ensures weeds do not get the sunlight needed to grow, and provides more summer forage for deer. You cant really stress white clover too much. It is one of the hardier food plot plants there is.

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Re: White clover? [Re: ridgestalker] #1063536
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I strongly disagree. It even says on the bags of commercial white clovers to, not mow it when stressed by heat and drought.

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Originally Posted By: blumsden
I only mow mine to keep broadleaf weeds controlled. White clover spreads from underground rhizomes, not seed. Do not mow clover, if it is stressed. Wait for cooler temps, after a rain.


I do this^^^ with one exception, I dont like mine to get over 8" tall or so. I had rather the energy be put into the leaves vs. stems.

blumsdens mowing probably keeps his about the same height.

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Re: White clover? [Re: ridgestalker] #1063545
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Thats great if that works for you. My durana plots are about to turn seven years old, and I have been following the mowing practices I read on the QDMA forums for four years now. I havent applied any new seed for four years because i have no bare spots. My plots are as green and weed free now as they were in March.

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Re: White clover? [Re: ridgestalker] #1063558
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Thats great for you, but some people are having trouble with thier durana plots. They haven't had any rain, and the clover is drying up. I'd call that stressed. Brown and crunchy is pretty stressed. Last thing you want to do, is run a bushhog over it. I'm well aware of the durana threads on QDMA, i'm a member. In those threads they even talk about not mowing when its hot and dry.

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this time of year our clover (Imperial) is not very tall due to grazing and I guess heat. A lot more lush and tall in June.... that being said, when you mow this time of year do you mow to cut the invasive grasses or broadleafs or do you actually cut the clover... I'd say my clover is no more than 6 inches tall right now and would not think cutting it lower than 6" would be good.

We sprayed this 3 acre field with clethodim in June and bushogged in July. It's now getting a decent amount johnson grass coming up through out. Clover still looks like a rug, but a lot more grass than I'd like to see. Should I spray or cut?

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You can do either but my personal preference would be to spray the grasses especially if they haven't seeded yet. When mowing if you can cut everything down to the clover is best, or at least it is when it has been this dry.

I am not a turf guy/agronomist but have spent a considerable amount of time working with Pennington over the years and I can assure you that mowing an already stressed stand of clover is not a good idea. If the plot is not stressed, then fine mow it, it will not hurt anything, neither will a lite disking. Further stressing of an already stressed stand will risk stand failure, been there and done that.

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Re: White clover? [Re: ridgestalker] #1095679
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Well I fertilized and overseeded last Thurs and then mowed. I was expecting rain the next day I sure hope I didn't kill it.


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I planted a mix last year and for the first time mixed in L. clover. I noticed in April that deer loved clover so cut the rye, wheat and oats off without cutting the clover. Came back first part of June and cut grass and weeds down to top of clover. Came back middle of September and 90% of field was clover. Mowed down any tall grass. Solid field of clover. I don't know if this is the proper way but it worked. Next year, I am just going to mow end of May.

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I planted a mix last year and for the first time mixed in L. clover. I noticed in April that deer loved clover so cut the rye, wheat and oats off without cutting the clover. Came back first part of June and cut grass and weeds down to top of clover. Came back middle of September and 90% of field was clover. Mowed down any tall grass. Solid field of clover. I don't know if this is the proper way but it worked. Next year, I am just going to mow end of May.

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I usually mow mine 3 times a year Memorial Day, 4th July, Labor Day, This keeps the weeds from being able to seed out. I usually spray for grass once a year between Memorial Day and 4th July cutting. It is going on it's 4 year and looks as good now as it did year one.


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Originally Posted By: ridgestalker
Well I fertilized and overseeded last Thurs and then mowed. I was expecting rain the next day I sure hope I didn't kill it.


It will be ok.

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I've got two durana fields on opposite ends of the county that I planted on the same day three years ago. They both looked awesome until the last two months. One of them on the east side of the county is pulling out if it now and looking great after getting some rain. The other field on the west side of the county is highly stressed. Not sure it will even make it. It has turned brown and lost about 80% of the foliage. Probably have to start over on that one. I mow and spray them both. Amazing how the lack of moisture in this heat can stunt it so bad compared to a field with moisture.


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