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Dog bite
#1056488
08/26/14 03:54 PM
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clydee
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Just got back from the emergency room. My dad was riding his bike this evening and a dog got after him and got ahold of his leg and caused him to wreck. Several punctures in his leg from the bite and a little skint up from the wreck. Yes, it was a pit bull.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
#1056492
08/26/14 03:55 PM
08/26/14 03:55 PM
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hope he heals quickly....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
#1056493
08/26/14 03:56 PM
08/26/14 03:56 PM
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Dang, where was it located? Would like to ride back by with a weapon.
If you want to always win, never play anyone better than you!
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
#1056496
08/26/14 03:57 PM
08/26/14 03:57 PM
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YEKRUT
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No way it was a pit, they won't hurt anyone.
Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters. —Archibald Rutledge—
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
#1056506
08/26/14 04:01 PM
08/26/14 04:01 PM
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clydee
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He is fine now, just a sore leg and a messed up bike. I think dads more tore up about warping his bike than he is about getting bit. Owner wasn't home at the time. They called later and said they were putting it down and offered to pay for the bike.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: Tru-Talker]
#1056525
08/26/14 04:15 PM
08/26/14 04:15 PM
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Hope you father has a full recovery. I can't believe it was a pit.....that's unheard of..... I was probably a mixed breed pit.
It takes a long time to grow an old friend.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: swamp_fever2002]
#1056534
08/26/14 04:18 PM
08/26/14 04:18 PM
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Hope you father has a full recovery. I can't believe it was a pit.....that's unheard of..... I was probably a mixed breed pit.
"You do and it will be the biggest mistake you ever made, you Texas brush popper" John Wayne
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: foldemup]
#1056539
08/26/14 04:20 PM
08/26/14 04:20 PM
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Dang, where was it located? Would like to ride back by with a weapon. X2 ill ride along with ya case there is another one, I want in on the fun I hope your dad gets well soon!
Last edited by Bamabucks14; 08/26/14 04:21 PM.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
#1056542
08/26/14 04:21 PM
08/26/14 04:21 PM
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He is fine now, just a sore leg and a messed up bike. I think dads more tore up about warping his bike than he is about getting bit. Owner wasn't home at the time. They called later and said they were putting it down and offered to pay for the bike. They better be paying his medical expenses and lost wages too. Hope he recovers quickly.
Jesus... I hope you know Him personally like I do.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
#1056557
08/26/14 04:28 PM
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Interesting. All the "bike riders on roads will get what they deserve" haters must be biting their tongues.
Hope your father recovers completely and quickly.
Last edited by Clem; 08/26/14 04:28 PM.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
#1056567
08/26/14 04:34 PM
08/26/14 04:34 PM
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glad he is going to be OK.
"Just remember a gobbler has to win every time, you only have to win once" BC
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: swamp_fever2002]
#1056591
08/26/14 04:46 PM
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Hope you father has a full recovery. I can't believe it was a pit.....that's unheard of..... I was probably a mixed breed pit. Yeeaaa..... Your probably right.....
Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves...
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: Clem]
#1056677
08/26/14 08:25 PM
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Interesting. All the "bike riders on roads will get what they deserve" haters must be biting their tongues.
Hope your father recovers completely and quickly. I guess they hate pits more than they hate bike riders.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: Bankhead3471]
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08/27/14 04:13 AM
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Bad to say but killing a dog is worse than any crime imaginable. If you have a mean dog keep it up. That is all. ???
"Here, take this land mine and protect your property with it." -Ron Swanson
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: scrape]
#1056862
08/27/14 04:15 AM
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famous words from pitbull owners:
"he's good around kids" "he wouln't harm a flea" "He's just a big baby" "its how you raise the dog" "It's like all of a sudden, he just snapped" "they were asking for it" "they shouldn't have run from him" Dont forget... "He aint neva bit nobody befo"
It isn't necessary to see a good tackle...you can hear it.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: Bankhead3471]
#1056863
08/27/14 04:17 AM
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Bad to say but killing a dog is worse than any crime imaginable. Please elaborate. The victims of rape, incest, child abuse, murder, elderly abuse and emotional-verbal abuse would love to hear how killing a dog is worse.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
#1056958
08/27/14 05:23 AM
08/27/14 05:23 AM
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knew that was coming before i even opend thread. Just curious, but did you see the dog.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
#1056967
08/27/14 05:28 AM
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GH, you need to go on somewhere with that practicality and fact finding. Someone's brother's, sister's, friend in law said it was a pit so it was.
On the Eighth day God created flounder.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: goodman_hunter]
#1056968
08/27/14 05:29 AM
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clydee
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Absolutely! The dog lived less than a mile from our house. The owners father lives next door to them and he said he has wanted to put it down for a while.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: scrape]
#1056977
08/27/14 05:33 AM
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famous words from pitbull owners:
"he's good around kids" "he wouln't harm a flea" "He's just a big baby" "its how you raise the dog" "It's like all of a sudden, he just snapped" "they were asking for it" "they shouldn't have run from him" ^^^^ Famous respones from someone who gets there info from media, and believes every word of it. probably also believe that pit have more jaw strenth than most dogs jaw strenth is comparable to a shark or tiger have locking jaws cause more damege then other dogs because unlike other dogs, pits shake. got there name "pit" cause they fight one another in a pit. more aggressive more agrresive towards humans cause "thats the way they were bred. did i miss something?
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
#1056984
08/27/14 05:36 AM
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Maybe the dog owner was mistaken and just thinks it's a pit. Maybe it's a border collie? well seeing how most people have no clue what kinda dog it really is, and love say "yea its a pit" and when i say most people i mean even people who work around dogs all there life cannot accurately identify them
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
#1057011
08/27/14 05:51 AM
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biglmbass
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Same ol shucks about a pit round here...
Oh look CFB starts tomorrow...
The left lane is for the the purpose of moving the flow of traffic forward regardless of the speed limit. If your impeding the flow of traffic get your ass in the right lane. It's really that simple...
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: biglmbass]
#1057016
08/27/14 05:52 AM
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TChunter
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Same ol shucks about a pit round here...
Oh look CFB starts tomorrow... Thank God, but you cant go in the sports forum and talk about that either or someone will rape your dog and burn your house down.
On the Eighth day God created flounder.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: frezznh2o]
#1057333
08/27/14 10:34 AM
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Take that wound seriously . I got bit by a chow and it took forever to heal and muscle was sore for almost a year. Impossible!! Everyone knows that only Pit Bulls bite!!
Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: goodman_hunter]
#1057337
08/27/14 10:38 AM
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famous words from pitbull owners:
"he's good around kids" "he wouln't harm a flea" "He's just a big baby" "its how you raise the dog" "It's like all of a sudden, he just snapped" "they were asking for it" "they shouldn't have run from him" ^^^^ Famous respones from someone who gets there info from media, and believes every word of it. probably also believe that pit have more jaw strenth than most dogs jaw strenth is comparable to a shark or tiger have locking jaws cause more damege then other dogs because unlike other dogs, pits shake. got there name "pit" cause they fight one another in a pit. more aggressive more agrresive towards humans cause "thats the way they were bred. did i miss something? yes you missed Ferguson, Missouri, they believed that all cops are bad so lets loot and burn stores. Were they right? Could be because almost all, if not all, killings by cops involve cops.
Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
#1057478
08/27/14 12:41 PM
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Ok were did you get those so called facts from?
Last edited by goodman_hunter; 08/27/14 12:57 PM.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
#1057508
08/27/14 01:06 PM
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Holy chit, the cat is missing. Well why didnt say that sooner. That has all the tell tale signs of a nationwide pit bull epidemic.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
#1057544
08/27/14 01:32 PM
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In other news. A pitbul bit an unarmed black kid.Causing looting and riots by a mob black labs. The pitbul is also being investigated in a missing cat case and believed to have started the ebola virus. If you come across the subject. DO NOT CONFRONT IT. It is considered pawed and EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.
Last edited by goodman_hunter; 08/27/14 01:34 PM.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: Fuzzy_Bunny]
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08/27/14 01:48 PM
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I have noted something over the years: Retrievers retrieve, hounds hunt with their nose, pointers point, herding dogs herd, but we are supposed to believe pit bulls who were bred from terriers (who were bread to hunt and kill) don't tend to do what they were bred to do.
So now they were bred to hunt and kill humans. Really
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
#1057568
08/27/14 01:50 PM
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Bunny
By that logic dobies would be showing up at your house on april 15 to collect taxes
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: goodman_hunter]
#1057577
08/27/14 01:59 PM
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I never said they were bred to hunt and kill humans. What I said is that dog breeds tend to do what they were bred to do. Have you ever noticed that labradores will go fetch a stick if you throw it? Regardless of it it's a yard dog, or fully trained champion hunter.
Why do most hog hunters use pits for catch dogs?
As far as the doberman showing up to collect taxes, what dogs do the police use to catch people? Dobermans, German Shepard's or rottweilers maybe? I wonder if there is a reason why they don't use English pointers?
Last edited by Fuzzy_Bunny; 08/27/14 02:00 PM.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
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08/27/14 02:24 PM
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Clyde let me ask you this. Do you believe EVERYTHING the media says. Do you believe the media goes to extremes to make sure there info is the most accurate it can be.how reliable would you say the media is
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
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08/27/14 03:08 PM
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Why wouldnt these so called statistics be considered media. Every bit of info on dog bite. Org came from media reported events. It is just a compilation of media reports. Do yawl even read the stuff yawl quote
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
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08/27/14 03:21 PM
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Oh the goverment, thats a lot more reliable. Now I'll admit i didnt read that. But i will tomorrow. So were did they get there info. Assuming you read it.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
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08/27/14 03:27 PM
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Cnn reports obama is the best president america ever had andto huffington post confirmedit it.See how silly it sounds.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
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08/27/14 04:06 PM
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Ehh I wrote a very long resonse to your question half way through erased it and decided to save us all some time. People gonna feel how they feel regardless what is said. I just wish people would take the time to research this fromt diffrent angles. Instead of only looking for information that backs up there preconcieved ideas. You know how many folks still believe chiggers embed themselves in your skin and can be killed with clear nail polish.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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08/27/14 04:24 PM
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Ehh I wrote a very long resonse to your question half way through erased it and decided to save us all some time. People gonna feel how they feel regardless what is said. I just wish people would take the time to research this fromt diffrent angles. Instead of only looking for information that backs up there preconcieved ideas. You know how many folks still believe chiggers embed themselves in your skin and can be killed with clear nail polish. I'm not interested in arguing. It's obvious you are a fan of the breed just as I am not. We are not going to change each other's mind. I have no problem researching from different angles. What source do you trust? Oh yeah, I thought the finger nail polish suffocated those little bastards. Educate me on this matter.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
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08/27/14 05:22 PM
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and like most here you don't even know how they got the numbers .most just read and believe them . lol funny how we just believe stats we like .
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
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08/27/14 05:54 PM
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CDC gets its statistics from medical records and law enforcement reports.
EHH, chiggers don't embed under your skin. They bite you and the enzyme in their body from the bite is what creates the irritating, itchy bump. Some folks are bothered by them more than others, similar to how some are bothered more by poison ivy. The fingernail polish can't suffocate anything under your skin because there's nothing there to suffocate.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: Clem]
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08/27/14 06:07 PM
08/27/14 06:07 PM
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Fuzzy_Bunny
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I agree, but in the cdc link it states the years the data was collected from and that it came from an online search and the humane societies data base.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
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08/27/14 06:12 PM
08/27/14 06:12 PM
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Clem
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Interesting. Maybe they use multiple sources. They're idiots if they only rely on online searches and the $($@#* humane society.
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"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: Fuzzy_Bunny]
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08/27/14 06:27 PM
08/27/14 06:27 PM
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Frankie
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Frankie, sine you read the cdc link and know the data came from an online search of news reports of dog bite death related fatalities, how should this data be collected to give a better more scientific breakdown of deaths caused by breed? first you'd need to know how many there are of each breed . how many pits are there , how many of them bite . same with each large breed dog . this is my problem with the data in a large numbers of the reports , the dog is guest to be this or that . you put 10 people in a room one might know what a pit is . the other reason is why the data is gathered to start with . basically the data is from ARA's . ARA's not only want pits gone but ever other dog . there is no real data out there on dog bite that i know of . some seem to hold this data as the holy grail on what is the "worst" dog breed and the data is just not there to prove that . on the other hand there is no data out there that says pits aint the worst dog breed .
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: Clem]
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08/27/14 06:30 PM
08/27/14 06:30 PM
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Frankie
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CDC gets its statistics from medical records and law enforcement reports. not in this case . when it comes to death by dog
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: Fuzzy_Bunny]
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08/27/14 06:33 PM
08/27/14 06:33 PM
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Frankie
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The linked article isn't actually a CDC document, but is on their website for reference. It was written by a Veterinarian journal.
keep back tracking . lol
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: Frankie]
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08/27/14 06:52 PM
08/27/14 06:52 PM
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Fuzzy_Bunny
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Frankie, sine you read the cdc link and know the data came from an online search of news reports of dog bite death related fatalities, how should this data be collected to give a better more scientific breakdown of deaths caused by breed? first you'd need to know how many there are of each breed . how many pits are there , how many of them bite . same with each large breed dog . this is my problem with the data in a large numbers of the reports , the dog is guest to be this or that . you put 10 people in a room one might know what a pit is . the other reason is why the data is gathered to start with . basically the data is from ARA's . ARA's not only want pits gone but ever other dog . there is no real data out there on dog bite that i know of . some seem to hold this data as the holy grail on what is the "worst" dog breed and the data is just not there to prove that . on the other hand there is no data out there that says pits aint the worst dog breed . What does knowing how many of a breed there are have to do with how many people got bit? You accuse me of back peddling for clarifying what is in a link to Clem, but then spout off a bunch of incomprehensible gibberish that makes no sense trying to make a point. Even if the data used to generate the paper is skewed in pit bull identification, 76 of 238 fatalities were still associated with the breed, which is 17 more fatalities than second place. So even if there is some miss-identification they still are number one. It's late and I am heading to bed. Feel free to post some data that says beagles are the number on killer of people in the world.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: Frankie]
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08/27/14 07:25 PM
08/27/14 07:25 PM
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JTapia
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CDC gets its statistics from medical records and law enforcement reports. not in this case . when it comes to death by dog There used to be a disclaimer on the CDC site that says the reason they stopped keeping stats on individual breeds was because of the difficulty in Identifying breeds, even by experienced Animal Control Officers and Veterinarians. It also stated that the only true way of identifying the breed was thru DNA testing. Dogbite.org stated mission is the eradication of the Pit Bull breed. By their own admission they said they included, and I quote, " Lab mix and Boxer and Boxer mix in their "mixed breed" stats as Pit Bulls. I have not seen anywhere that anyone has said that the breed can be dangerous, just not as dangerous as presented on this site and with the vileness exhibited towards them on this site. Just my opinion take it or leave it.
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Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: hawgwild]
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08/27/14 11:01 PM
08/27/14 11:01 PM
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IDOT
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Interesting. All the "bike riders on roads will get what they deserve" haters must be biting their tongues.
Hope your father recovers completely and quickly. I guess they hate pits more than they hate bike riders. Yup
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: Fuzzy_Bunny]
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08/28/14 02:44 AM
08/28/14 02:44 AM
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Frankie
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Frankie, sine you read the cdc link and know the data came from an online search of news reports of dog bite death related fatalities, how should this data be collected to give a better more scientific breakdown of deaths caused by breed? first you'd need to know how many there are of each breed . how many pits are there , how many of them bite . same with each large breed dog . this is my problem with the data in a large numbers of the reports , the dog is guest to be this or that . you put 10 people in a room one might know what a pit is . the other reason is why the data is gathered to start with . basically the data is from ARA's . ARA's not only want pits gone but ever other dog . there is no real data out there on dog bite that i know of . some seem to hold this data as the holy grail on what is the "worst" dog breed and the data is just not there to prove that . on the other hand there is no data out there that says pits aint the worst dog breed . What does knowing how many of a breed there are have to do with how many people got bit? You accuse me of back peddling for clarifying what is in a link to Clem, but then spout off a bunch of incomprehensible gibberish that makes no sense trying to make a point. Even if the data used to generate the paper is skewed in pit bull identification, 76 of 238 fatalities were still associated with the breed, which is 17 more fatalities than second place. So even if there is some miss-identification they still are number one. It's late and I am heading to bed. Feel free to post some data that says beagles are the number on killer of people in the world. sorry i mean keep back tracking on the source of the data .
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: JTapia]
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08/28/14 02:48 AM
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Frankie
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CDC gets its statistics from medical records and law enforcement reports. not in this case . when it comes to death by dog There used to be a disclaimer on the CDC site that says the reason they stopped keeping stats on individual breeds was because of the difficulty in Identifying breeds, even by experienced Animal Control Officers and Veterinarians. It also stated that the only true way of identifying the breed was thru DNA testing. Dogbite.org stated mission is the irradiation of the Pit Bull breed. By their own admission they said they included, and I quote, " Lab mix and Boxer and Boxer mix in their "mixed breed" stats as Pit Bulls. I have not seen anywhere that anyone has said that the breed can be dangerous, just not as dangerous as presented on this site and with the vileness exhibited towards them on this site. Just my opinion take it or leave it. if you look at the people behind the data, their goal is irradiation of all dog breeds
Last edited by Frankie; 08/28/14 03:01 AM.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
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08/28/14 04:10 AM
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some people will believe what they want regardless of facts, Im only trying to say that when it comes to this topic alot of folks have been wrongly informed, if your intrested in the TRUTH, goes to this link. Why people fail to resist the facts, and yet cling so strongly to the lies they have been fed is beyond me. mis identification this is why the data is easily misreported, and used to slander the name of the renamed "nanny dog". These dogs were once popular for man, many reasons.
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: clydee]
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08/28/14 04:35 AM
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jmack66
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My wife was walking a couple days ago and we have some new neighbors that has a pit bull. He came after my wife with the owner running and hollering at the dog. She finally got the dog back. Now I walk with her past that house in the afternoons. If he comes back out on the right of way after her again and shows aggression,,, he will be dealt with. I would sure hate to kill a mans dog but o-well. They should have him chained or in a pen. We have small kids that also walk up and down the street. I see some bad ju-ju in that dogs near future
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: jmack66]
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08/28/14 10:03 AM
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JTapia
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If he comes back out on the right of way after her again and shows aggression,,, he will be dealt with. I would sure hate to kill a mans dog but o-well. They should have him chained or in a pen. As it should be. You are not going to "deal" with a Pit Bull, you are going to "deal" with an aggressive dog that happens to be, as described by you, a pit bull. There are those on this site that would trespass onto your neighbors yard and poison that dog simply because the dog is a pit Bull breed....or atleast they think it is, regardless of whether the dog has shown aggression or not. Given that aggression is common with all dogs when it comes to "their" territory it bewilders me where they get this hatred of the breed. Oh they'll say it's because they kill babies, more than other dog breeds, but fail to realize the mini blind cords and babies momma's boyfriend kill way more babies a year than Pit Bulls and besides, how many babies is too much? Aren't babies killed by other breeds just as important? Why is their killers breed ignored?
Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
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Re: Dog bite
[Re: JTapia]
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08/28/14 10:22 AM
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Vulkanman
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If he comes back out on the right of way after her again and shows aggression,,, he will be dealt with. I would sure hate to kill a mans dog but o-well. They should have him chained or in a pen. As it should be. You are not going to "deal" with a Pit Bull, you are going to "deal" with an aggressive dog that happens to be, as described by you, a pit bull. There are those on this site that would trespass onto your neighbors yard and poison that dog simply because the dog is a pit Bull breed....or atleast they think it is, regardless of whether the dog has shown aggression or not. Given that aggression is common with all dogs when it comes to "their" territory it bewilders me where they get this hatred of the breed. Oh they'll say it's because they kill babies, more than other dog breeds, but fail to realize the mini blind cords and babies momma's boyfriend kill way more babies a year than Pit Bulls and besides, how many babies is too much? Aren't babies killed by other breeds just as important? Why is their killers breed ignored? Maybe it's just easier to do something that you can actually do something about? You'll never stop crazy people from killing people, you won't stop stoopid people from shaking babies that cry, you won't stop drunks & druggies from mistreating the people around them but some folks feel like keeping animals that inherently possess lethal ability as "pet" just doesn't make sense in a society and they CAN do something about it. Personally I don't give a chit if people raise & fight dogs, chickens or crocodiles, I have no moral issue with it. Keeping them as "pets" in a neighborhood just doesn't make sense to me, and denying their dangerous nature is just a bit ridiculous. I think you are responsible for anything your pets do, and I've never had a problem putting down an aggressive animal or one that I decided could do me harm in a particular environment. A pit bull in my yard is just as much a threat to me as a rattlesnake in the woods I hunt, I don't need either one of them in my life.
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