</a JR Holmes Oil Company </a Shark Guard Southeast Woods and Whitetail Mayer Insurance Services LLC
Aldeer Classifieds
Taurus PT-99
by Big AL 76. 07/24/24 06:43 PM
WTB: 9mm
by Buckscent. 07/24/24 05:03 PM
Like New! 2021 Polaris Sportsman 450 HO
by bass1090. 07/24/24 03:36 PM
Puppies 6wk old 1/2 mountain cur
by turkey_killer. 07/24/24 12:39 PM
LH Rem 700 youth.
by 1shot. 07/24/24 11:48 AM
Serious Deer Talk
Hunting Lease Insurance
by mw2015. 07/24/24 03:50 PM
Recommendation for a two man ladder stand.
by hallb. 07/24/24 12:32 PM
Browning A Bolt Medallion 7MM 08
by 2Dogs. 07/24/24 12:22 PM
Deer…
by Ridge Life. 07/24/24 10:21 AM
Hunting licenses
by Gobble4me757. 07/24/24 09:34 AM
July
S M T W T F S
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31
Land, Leases, Hunting Clubs
Looking for lease
by studchaser22. 07/24/24 11:39 AM
2 openings in Columbiana
by Lockjaw. 07/23/24 11:04 AM
4000 acres in Sumter Co. Running the ad again
by Radaralph. 07/22/24 11:20 AM
Hunting Leases Clarke Co
by k bush. 07/20/24 07:54 PM
ORBIS Land Management Contact
by Overland. 07/19/24 04:06 PM
Who's Online Now
156 registered members (AU coonhunter, dawgdr, Andalusia, sloughfoot, cartervj, hayman, HOWTON21, furnfeather, centralala, treemydog, beetrapper, CeeHawk37, chill, taggedout, 25-20, MarksOutdoors, SnipeHunter, jaydub12, Joe4majors, hallb, Chaser357, cgardner, lectrode, SEWoodsWhitetail, JLMiller, rickyh_2, Shane99, turkey247, jtillery, jeffhhub, clayk, 3bailey3, canvasback, Dekalb123, durhata, Khitzeman, OutdoorsAL, Shmoe, SouthBamaSlayer, cullbuck, k bush, mrc283, limabean, CAM, BPI, twaldrop4, Flyliner, Young20, blade, bamaeyedoc, Bows4evr, leroyb, deerman24, woodduck, biglmbass, jake44, Mansfield, dquick1, canine933, sethjamtoe, Big AL 76, BuckSpear, CCC, paintrock, Narrow Gap, Dublgrumpy, BentBarrel, HURRICANE, MikeP, Hotrod20, hamma, Turkey_neck, Gobble4me757, HHSyelper, Morris, RareBreed, Chiller, apolloslade, XVIII, Jmkiper, Hoytdad10, roll_tide_hunts, Sgiles, AU7MM08, Atoler, top cat, mw2015, HappyHunter, mossyback, TravisBatey, bambam32, KnightRyder, BigA47, aucivil, Marbury, Frankie, CNC, NotsoBright, PapaD, jaredhunts, MS_Hunter, Luvbowhuntn, bhammedic84, Jwoods32, Buckshot77, Swamp Monkey, Standbanger, claybird, bowkl, COOTER, mcninja, bamamed1, dave260rem!, btfl, Jmfire722, oldbowhunter, DGAMBLER, kaintuck, Tailwalk7, Luxfisher, Bowhunter84, birdcarver, Coosa buck, hoggin, Fishduck, Rmart30, kyles, benchmade47, thayerp81, GATA87, Wapiti55, Wildboar14, Goose, Kmh1031, AJones, timberman56, gatorbait154, UARandy3, RCHRR, eclipse829, rrice0725, Gut Pile 32, Bulls eye, JA, 12 invisible), 304 guests, and 0 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing #1034244
08/05/14 04:59 AM
08/05/14 04:59 AM
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 13,401
Mobile Alabama
TChunter Offline OP
Booner
TChunter  Offline OP
Booner
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 13,401
Mobile Alabama
I thought Id type this up and save it since many folks unfamiliar with saltwater ask what to fish for when they come down to stay at the beach on vacation and so forth. Here are just a few basic tips and tackle/rigging recommendations to get you started.

First of its not that complicated. Saltwater is no different than bass fishing for the most part. Reds Speckled trout, flounder, etc… are just ambush feeders/predators like bass/bream/stripers, etc…Id bet my meager paycheck you can catch any of the saltwater species with the majority or your bass lures. The only difference is they respond and feed more during tidal movements. Also for the purposes of this write up I am speaking about bass sized tackle as far as rods and reels. My preference is bait casting gear spooled with 10# and 2500 size spinning reels spooled with 8 or 10#. I fish a little lighter than most so anything in the 8-14# range will work just fine. You can catch anything from a 6” croaker to a 40+ inch redfish with good quality and quantity of line, have your drag set and know how to use it. If you want to go buy a 12’ “surf outfit” and sling 60lb test off the beach with a 14/0 hook baited with a small weaned child to catch the “big fish” then go for it. Just know that you will likely just catch sharks and rays (which is fine) but that’s not the intention of this write up.

Spanish and king mackerel run the Gulf side beaches. I like light hard wire or heavy mono leaders fished with alewives, pogies, BIG live shrimp or silver eels. You can drift them in the current or use small water balloons blown up and tied at various depths to float it out. This also helps if there is little current by allowing a breeze to carry it around. For kings you may want to step up to a reel capable of a few hundred yards of 20-30lb test. By catch for this will include but not limited to skipjacks, hard tails, bluefish, sharks, rays, etc…
One of my favorite beach fish to catch and eat are whiting. Carolina rig for whiting with a small 8 or 10 kahle or treble hook and a thumb nail size piece of peeled fresh shrimp. They are great fighters for their size and some of the finest table fare around.

Specks/reds will run the beach early and throughout the day also. I like to walk slinging a Krocodile spoon by Luhr Jensen in ½ or ¾ oz.
http://www.basspro.com/Luhr-Jensen-Krocodile-Spoons/product/8346/

I also like many of the mirrolure C17MR, 9MR-18 and 16MR. Lures that also produce well are many of various jig head/grub combinations twitched across the bottom or even higher in the water column. 1/8-1/4oz jig heads are usually sufficient. GULP baits in 3” pogie or shrimp in almost any color will work well also. I like “new penny”, “natural”, and “molting” but they all work pretty well in our area.

Live Bait:
I fish live shrimp/croakers 2 different ways. There are others but these are the basics and what works well. I like to fish Carolina rigged with a swivel, sliding egg sinker or split shot and about 16-20” of leader. Use as little weight as possible (even free lined at times) to get to the bottom. The other is slip corked. Slip corking helps in the event that you are around structure such as bay gas platforms or rock/oyster shell bottoms. This helps prevent some bait stealing from what we call “tail biters”. IE, Croakers, white trout, toad fish, and one million others. The depth for slip corking varies depending on the water depth of course. It varies from 2’ in the shallows to 20-30’ around gas rigs in the bay/offshore.


If anyone has anything to add please feel free to do so, I was trying to have something on here for folks fishing down this way without having to retype it every time.


On the Eighth day God created flounder.
Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: TChunter] #1034506
08/05/14 08:36 AM
08/05/14 08:36 AM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 577
Andalusia
High_Voltage Offline
4 point
High_Voltage  Offline
4 point
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 577
Andalusia
Pompano are readily available in the surf during the spring and fall using the same light tackle. Use a double dropper rig with 1oz spider weight baited with sand fleas on #2-6 kahle hooks. I like to fish two rods wiht one just past where waves are breaking and one as fars as I can throw it. I pick up alot of bull reds on finger nail size sand fleas on outer bar.

Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: TChunter] #1035948
08/06/14 03:56 PM
08/06/14 03:56 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 16,899
lat 34.09 long -86.13
metalmuncher Offline
Old Mossy Horns
metalmuncher  Offline
Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 16,899
lat 34.09 long -86.13
Thanks for the info Tc. You too HV. Some of us land lubbers will certainly put some of that knowledge to use. And some of us like myself will probably still not catch anything but hard heads. grin

Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: TChunter] #1036104
08/06/14 06:36 PM
08/06/14 06:36 PM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,928
south of hills, north of plain...
R
RareBreed Online content
8 point
RareBreed  Online Content
8 point
R
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,928
south of hills, north of plain...
TC, I'm debating a weekend fishing trip in Orange Beach but it checked the weather and it's looking iffy. What do think the weather is going to do this weekend?


"I didn’t mean to kill nobody, I just meant to shoot him once in the head and two times in the chest. Him dying was between he and the Lord."
Legendary bluesman R.L. Burnside
Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: TChunter] #1036133
08/06/14 10:28 PM
08/06/14 10:28 PM
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 52,900
Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
James Offline
Freak of Nature
James  Offline
Freak of Nature
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 52,900
Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
cool


Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!

Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: TChunter] #1036140
08/07/14 12:20 AM
08/07/14 12:20 AM
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 22,276
Mayberry
Brent Offline
Administrator
Brent  Offline
Administrator
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 22,276
Mayberry
Good stuff!


"How in the hell did you get to be a moderator?"...Skinny

God Bless Nick Saban!
Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: RareBreed] #1036388
08/07/14 04:58 AM
08/07/14 04:58 AM
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 13,401
Mobile Alabama
TChunter Offline OP
Booner
TChunter  Offline OP
Booner
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 13,401
Mobile Alabama
Originally Posted By: RareBreed
TC, I'm debating a weekend fishing trip in Orange Beach but it checked the weather and it's looking iffy. What do think the weather is going to do this weekend?


When you ask "hows the weather" regarding saltwater fishing what you mean and I what I look for are probably two totally different things. I assume you mean rain, storms, etc...

Thats a secondary concern to me. I first check the tides and wind forecast. The tides looks awesome for this weekend, strong, high and moving well. They will hit high all weekend early to mid morning depending on where you are.


http://tides.rodnreel.com/tides/index.php?st_id=550&day=1407387600



The wind forcast:

http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/fmtbltn.pl?file=forecasts/marine/coastal/gm/gmz630.txt


I look at this but take it with a grain of salt, I mainly watch these:

http://www.mymobilebay.com/stationdata/s...p;StationID=188


If the wind is forecast/blowing W/SW Dauphin Island will be off due to positioning, same thing with fort morgan on an East, Meaher Park on a N/NE and so on and so forth. Middle Bay light will read true all the time cause its in the open.

If its less than 10 Ill go most of the time but my target area will change depending.

As far as the rain, I could care less unless its a huge system moving in. I just know if Im on the water past 2PM I have a chance of getting rained on pretty much everyday in the summer around here.


Hope this helps. thumbup

Last edited by TChunter; 08/07/14 04:59 AM.

On the Eighth day God created flounder.
Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: TChunter] #1036472
08/07/14 06:25 AM
08/07/14 06:25 AM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 10,465
Alabama
W
whack-n-stack Offline
Booner
whack-n-stack  Offline
Booner
W
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 10,465
Alabama
It can be a beautiful bluebird day but if it's windy you're looking at some good seas with no backs to them. I hate wind more than rain.

Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: TChunter] #1036728
08/07/14 10:02 AM
08/07/14 10:02 AM
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,928
south of hills, north of plain...
R
RareBreed Online content
8 point
RareBreed  Online Content
8 point
R
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,928
south of hills, north of plain...
Thanks man, that does help. I'll fish in rough seas and thunderstorms and don't mind a bit. I'll have the family down and also another couple with young kids so rain could be an issue with them. We understand that it rains a few hrs a day down there anyway but just can't tell if a storm will set in and rain all weekend or just some of the day. The house is small and having 5 kids cooped up might not be worth a wknd trip. The weather channel was showing 50% on Friday, 10% Sat., and 50% for Sunday. Usually if they are calling for 50 or greater, it's a good chance of all day rain on the coast. Thanks again for the help. We will decide tonight.


"I didn’t mean to kill nobody, I just meant to shoot him once in the head and two times in the chest. Him dying was between he and the Lord."
Legendary bluesman R.L. Burnside
Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: TChunter] #1039418
08/10/14 08:29 AM
08/10/14 08:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 10,484
Bham
D
Dallas County Offline
Booner
Dallas County  Offline
Booner
D
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 10,484
Bham
TC that's some very good info! Thanks for posting. My little bit to add would be fish nights in the hot months with a good current, stronger the better. Live bait will usually out perform dead bait 3:1 and artificials more than 5:1

Also FYI, it's not legal in Florida waters to fish with treble hooks in conjunction with live or dead natural bait when targeting most in or near shore species. Lots of folks don't know that or at least I didn't until a year or two ago. I can't find anything prohibiting it in Alabama waters.


not sure what the best way to handle them is but they shouldnt be on tv and gettn married and raisin kids

Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: TChunter] #1153173
11/18/14 10:00 AM
11/18/14 10:00 AM
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 82
Eldridge, AL (walker)
Karsonclowers Offline
spike
Karsonclowers  Offline
spike
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 82
Eldridge, AL (walker)
what is some good lures for these fish from a pier.
baracuda
sailfish
King makeral


Karson Clowers
Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: Karsonclowers] #1160893
11/23/14 09:10 PM
11/23/14 09:10 PM
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 8,456
Harpersville, AL
tfd1224 Offline
14 point
tfd1224  Offline
14 point
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 8,456
Harpersville, AL
Originally Posted By: Karsonclowers
what is some good lures for these fish from a pier.
baracuda
sailfish
King makeral

tube lure or live bait
an offshore boat
live hardtails


Yeah c’mon. Daniel White
Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: Karsonclowers] #1161355
11/24/14 08:24 AM
11/24/14 08:24 AM
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,733
Florida
P
Peach Offline
10 point
Peach  Offline
10 point
P
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,733
Florida
Originally Posted By: Karsonclowers
what is some good lures for these fish from a pier.
baracuda
sailfish
King makeral

I have fished Pensacola, Navarre, OIP, and Panama City piers for 45 years and have even written books on fishing our local piers. First of all, it is possible to catch sailfish and king mackerel with lures such as XRaps, super pogeys, and spoons. Personally, I would use live bait that is almost always available to catch at the piers. Frozen cigar minnows is a great second option. Barracuda do hang around our piers but seldom eat anything that you throw to them. They usually wait until an angler hooks an king or bonita, and will chomp that in half. Cobia fishing in April and tarpon fishing in July are my favorites.

Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: TChunter] #1169782
12/01/14 09:35 AM
12/01/14 09:35 AM
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 82
Eldridge, AL (walker)
Karsonclowers Offline
spike
Karsonclowers  Offline
spike
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 82
Eldridge, AL (walker)
thanks for the suggetions


Karson Clowers
Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: TChunter] #1261582
02/12/15 04:15 AM
02/12/15 04:15 AM
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 5,517
sellers, montgomery county
P
paulfish4570 Offline
12 point
paulfish4570  Offline
12 point
P
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 5,517
sellers, montgomery county
much appreciate this info, TC. i have a daughter in pensacola, and a son in gulf shores, so i'm down that way a lot. this will greatly simplify things. i've been fishing way too heavy ...


paulfish4570
Joshua 1:9
Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: paulfish4570] #1276274
02/24/15 02:00 PM
02/24/15 02:00 PM
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 9,877
in the corner
S
Stob Offline
14 point
Stob  Offline
14 point
S
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 9,877
in the corner
Everything eats shrimp!!

Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: TChunter] #1327563
04/14/15 05:53 PM
04/14/15 05:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,018
Mt. Olive
Sharpshooter69 Offline
12 point
Sharpshooter69  Offline
12 point
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,018
Mt. Olive
Over 50 nice Kings were landed on the city pier on Monday in PCB.


The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: TChunter] #1346334
05/08/15 05:52 AM
05/08/15 05:52 AM
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,558
Lower Alabama
G
GrandSlam Offline
8 point
GrandSlam  Offline
8 point
G
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,558
Lower Alabama
Thanks for all the help. So..... Where do I stand a good chance of catching a world class Ground Mullet?

Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: GrandSlam] #1346368
05/08/15 06:44 AM
05/08/15 06:44 AM
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 13,401
Mobile Alabama
TChunter Offline OP
Booner
TChunter  Offline OP
Booner
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 13,401
Mobile Alabama
Originally Posted By: GrandSlam
Thanks for all the help. So..... Where do I stand a good chance of catching a world class Ground Mullet?



Stop it. rofl


On the Eighth day God created flounder.
Re: An quick introduction to inshore saltwater fishing [Re: TChunter] #1356415
05/25/15 06:40 AM
05/25/15 06:40 AM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 24,966
Buc-ee’s Beach Express
leroycnbucks Offline
Freak of Nature
leroycnbucks  Offline
Freak of Nature
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 24,966
Buc-ee’s Beach Express
Fish the tides and bait presentation is what it is all about. Also don't forget to wash and wash and wash your bass fishing rigs with fresh water as soon as you are done. Saltwater will eat a reel up in a short period of time.

Hey Peach,
I bet me and my Daddy have fished with you on the city pier in PCB. We were regulars for about twenty years. Remember Dan the pier man?


Proud Army and ALNG veteran
God Bless America!
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Aldeer.com Copyright 2001-2024 Aldeer LLP.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1
(Release build 20180111)
Page Time: 0.077s Queries: 15 (0.025s) Memory: 3.3015 MB (Peak: 3.6313 MB) Zlib disabled. Server Time: 2024-07-25 00:05:07 UTC
</a