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Re: Daughters Dating
[Re: ETNHUNTER]
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08/02/14 03:14 PM
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You have 2 options:
1) Teach them about safe sex
>>>>>>>>>>>OR
2) Become a grandfather
You can't keep them from doing anything.
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Re: Daughters Dating
[Re: Beer Belly]
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08/02/14 03:20 PM
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You have 2 options:
1) Teach them about safe sex
>>>>>>>>>>>OR
2) Become a grandfather
You can't keep them from doing anything. See it happen too many times with her friends. Almost 20 and none here. 
LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!!
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Re: Daughters Dating
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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08/02/14 04:06 PM
08/02/14 04:06 PM
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Sorry guys didn't know we had all gotten so sensitive all of a sudden. When you're talking about peoples children, what do you expect? You can talk smack about me all you want. My wife, I'll listen to a little. My kids? Leave em alone.
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Re: Daughters Dating
[Re: FurFlyin]
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08/02/14 04:30 PM
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This is going to be a religious reply so be forewarned.....
My soon to be 15 year old daughter has a real relationship with Christ. I'm not saying that makes her immune to anything sexual but I will say that it will help her considerably when the time comes when she faces that decision.
When I was a kid I know there were plenty of church attending girls who were sexually active. There is a difference in going to church and having a real relationship with Jesus Christ.
I also take every opportunity that I have to tell her she looks pretty and to tell her how much I love her. That way when some little pencil necked peckerhead tells her that, she will have heard it from me before. those things make a big difference, when my oldest turned 15, I told her to dress up in her best and I did as well, and I took her out to a nice restaurant. After dinner I talked with her about about relationships with boys and talked about God's plan for her life and His purpose, role and plan concerning sex. We talked for a while and I concluded by asking her if she would be willing to make a covenant with her mom, I & God to remain a virgin until marriage. Gratefully her answer was yes and so I gave her a ring to confirm her covenant and remind her in tempting times. It is my hope that one day, on her wedding day , that she can give me that ring back and say" I have been faithful"
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Re: Daughters Dating
[Re: eskimo270]
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08/02/14 06:17 PM
08/02/14 06:17 PM
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This is going to be a religious reply so be forewarned.....
My soon to be 15 year old daughter has a real relationship with Christ. I'm not saying that makes her immune to anything sexual but I will say that it will help her considerably when the time comes when she faces that decision.
When I was a kid I know there were plenty of church attending girls who were sexually active. There is a difference in going to church and having a real relationship with Jesus Christ.
I also take every opportunity that I have to tell her she looks pretty and to tell her how much I love her. That way when some little pencil necked peckerhead tells her that, she will have heard it from me before. those things make a big difference, when my oldest turned 15, I told her to dress up in her best and I did as well, and I took her out to a nice restaurant. After dinner I talked with her about about relationships with boys and talked about God's plan for her life and His purpose, role and plan concerning sex. We talked for a while and I concluded by asking her if she would be willing to make a covenant with her mom, I & God to remain a virgin until marriage. Gratefully her answer was yes and so I gave her a ring to confirm her covenant and remind her in tempting times. It is my hope that one day, on her wedding day , that she can give me that ring back and say" I have been faithful" I hope she will.The main thing though is that you have been an example and have stood for what is right and best for her. Even if she fails she will always know that you cared enough to try to keep her from failing and that you love her regardless. To everyone We who are encouraging our daughters to not have sex until marriage are doing so only because we know the hurt and pain sex can cause outside of the covenant of marriage. We know that our children may not take our advice but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't give sound advice.
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Re: Daughters Dating
[Re: Beer Belly]
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08/03/14 02:17 AM
08/03/14 02:17 AM
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You have 2 options:
1) Teach them about safe sex
>>>>>>>>>>>OR
2) Become a grandfather
You can't keep them from doing anything. That mentality says you should also teach them to use drugs and alcohol responsibly while under age. After all, you can't expect them not to do it. Children and people in general, will live up to our expectations and their raising. If we don't expect them to refrain from pre marital sex then they usually won't. We can't stop them with force and harsh words but we can steer them toward the right decision with love and proper guidance.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles"
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Re: Daughters Dating
[Re: FurFlyin]
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08/03/14 03:03 AM
08/03/14 03:03 AM
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When you're talking about peoples children, what do you expect? You can talk smack about me all you want. My wife, I'll help. My kids? Leave em alone.
Fixed it for you
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"Cause the cause for the pause you think you see is really concentration on the steel” NonPoint
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Re: Daughters Dating
[Re: eskimo270]
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08/03/14 04:59 AM
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This is going to be a religious reply so be forewarned.....
My soon to be 15 year old daughter has a real relationship with Christ. I'm not saying that makes her immune to anything sexual but I will say that it will help her considerably when the time comes when she faces that decision.
When I was a kid I know there were plenty of church attending girls who were sexually active. There is a difference in going to church and having a real relationship with Jesus Christ.
I also take every opportunity that I have to tell her she looks pretty and to tell her how much I love her. That way when some little pencil necked peckerhead tells her that, she will have heard it from me before. those things make a big difference, when my oldest turned 15, I told her to dress up in her best and I did as well, and I took her out to a nice restaurant. After dinner I talked with her about about relationships with boys and talked about God's plan for her life and His purpose, role and plan concerning sex. We talked for a while and I concluded by asking her if she would be willing to make a covenant with her mom, I & God to remain a virgin until marriage. Gratefully her answer was yes and so I gave her a ring to confirm her covenant and remind her in tempting times. It is my hope that one day, on her wedding day , that she can give me that ring back and say" I have been faithful" This is what i plan on doing as well
"The aggies are going to destroy bama"
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Re: Daughters Dating
[Re: ETNHUNTER]
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08/03/14 06:26 AM
08/03/14 06:26 AM
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Christian parents are a good start but our relationship with Christ can't stop our children from acting on impulse. Only their own personal relationship with God can affect the decision to have sex before marriage.
Our children need good counseling and information but ultimately it will be them making the choice. Insecurity and a secular world view have led more girls to pre marital sex than lust or temptation. If those two issues are addressed, she stands a much greater chance of withstanding the peer pressure.
If we want our children to follow a certain path we need to lead them. They may not take it even if we lead them but they will definitely stray if we don't. Again, their own relationship with God will be the biggest influence but they stand a much greater chance of having that strong relationship if they witness it in us first.
If we should be giving our children the pill and condoms shouldn't we be giving them steril needles and a safe place to drink, too?
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles"
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Re: Daughters Dating
[Re: doekiller]
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08/03/14 07:15 AM
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2Dogs
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You guys are so full of it with the it didn't used to be this way crap. It has always been that way. Teenagers have always had sex, even one who went to church and had loving parents. You really think you can stop it by smothering them? If it is going to happen, it will happen.
Doekiller makes a good point. Try your best to raise them right, and hope for the best. I need to get Mrs. 2Dogs to help you boys out, she's a public health nurse with ADPH. She can tell ya all about teen aged girls and such. Good luck.
Last edited by 2Dogs; 08/03/14 07:15 AM.
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Re: Daughters Dating
[Re: ETNHUNTER]
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08/03/14 07:16 AM
08/03/14 07:16 AM
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I didn't, either. But, I didn't have a strong personal relationship with Christ, when I was growing up, either. You can't expect someone who follows the ways of this world to act in a manner contrary to it. If a child or adult has a relationship with God that puts Him first how can they continually act in a manner contrary to Him? That doesn't mean they might not make a mistake but they won't live lives that are direct contradictions to His will.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles"
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Re: Daughters Dating
[Re: buck_buster]
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08/03/14 08:37 AM
08/03/14 08:37 AM
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R_H_Clark
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Some comments on here make me wonder if you all live in 2014.. I do believe if you do not want grand kids you have the "talk" and place her on the pill because before its said and done she is going to have that temptation to do and that would be insurance. There was a girl I went to high school with that I became really close to. Her mother worked in the office as a principal assistant, and they were very christian family. As we became closer she began to tell me that she was sexually active with her boy friend whom family was also very christian and no one would have EVER thought that not even me. She did not drink smoke or anything. But I would rather be safe than sorry. They are gonna do it before its over and done with. I had a uncle tell me that buying a 16 year old a car is like giving her a motel room  If you send them out to be alone with boys at 14, 15, 16, you might as well expect them to have sex. You don't have to give in to the world though and send them out. Having said that, I'll also say that you can't live just like the rest of the world in every other aspect and expect to keep them from being alone with boys at 14-16. It's a 24-7 lifestyle, in everything you do and allow into your life. You have to guard your heart with all diligence, for out of your heart are the issues of life.
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Re: Daughters Dating
[Re: ETNHUNTER]
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08/03/14 09:07 AM
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There is no single thing that you can point to and say "do this and all is well".
It is the total package.
How I treat my daughter is paramount to how she will see herself as she pertains to boys.
How I treat her mother is tantamount to how daughter will perceive the male/female relationship should be.
How I hold myself up will be the model she will use in judging what is best for her, if I am truly good for her and to her, that is what she will come to expect from any man/boy.
Mother has to be on same page. Can't have her having little talks where she says "I understand you better than your father does, he is a man and we are girls. I can keep a secret, I want to be your friend".
"I want to be your friend" is probably the most destructive thing you do to your child. Sure it feels good to have that closeness with them but at some point you'll have to be the parent and then they will feel betrayed and the relationship will be forever damaged, perhaps irretrievably so.
Lastly watch yourself and decisions you make because it will be teenager nature when trying to control raging hormones to look for and exploit any discrepancy and crack in your Armour.
Don't keep rewinding and re-watching that Kate Upton Commercial, Don't trash women to her, don't objectify women in any way and always present yourself as "The" man.
Little girls love their daddys and that relationship goes deep in her soul. You don't give her what she needs and she'll find it from somebody else, believe me when I say this, you do not want Miley Cyrus to be your daughters role model.
Hunt'em hard when they are hard to hunt but never, ever hardly hunt!
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Re: Daughters Dating
[Re: JTapia]
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08/03/14 11:13 AM
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There is no single thing that you can point to and say "do this and all is well".
It is the total package.
How I treat my daughter is paramount to how she will see herself as she pertains to boys.
How I treat her mother is tantamount to how daughter will perceive the male/female relationship should be.
How I hold myself up will be the model she will use in judging what is best for her, if I am truly good for her and to her, that is what she will come to expect from any man/boy.
Mother has to be on same page. Can't have her having little talks where she says "I understand you better than your father does, he is a man and we are girls. I can keep a secret, I want to be your friend".
"I want to be your friend" is probably the most destructive thing you do to your child. Sure it feels good to have that closeness with them but at some point you'll have to be the parent and then they will feel betrayed and the relationship will be forever damaged, perhaps irretrievably so.
Lastly watch yourself and decisions you make because it will be teenager nature when trying to control raging hormones to look for and exploit any discrepancy and crack in your Armour.
Don't keep rewinding and re-watching that Kate Upton Commercial, Don't trash women to her, don't objectify women in any way and always present yourself as "The" man.
Little girls love their daddys and that relationship goes deep in her soul. You don't give her what she needs and she'll find it from somebody else, believe me when I say this, you do not want Miley Cyrus to be your daughters role model. This is it right here!!^^^Good post!
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