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Four wheeler riding on a club #1030680
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Do you guys allow it to go to and from a hunting area? Do you think it affects the deer or not? I have heard this argument go strongly both ways. I'm a firm believer that it does affect deer and puts unnecessary pressure.


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Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: slippinlipjr] #1030686
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They hardly ever get used at our club...we have a good road system except for one stretch....and a 4 wheel drive truck can make that with no problem.... To me...it affects them... I have been in stands where a truck can drive down the road and all the deer do is turn their head....never move.... Four wheeler goes by and they are gone before it ever gets within 100-150 yards....


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Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: slippinlipjr] #1030687
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We only allow it to the parking areas which are usually designated a good ways off of the hunting area. Its all walk in only from there. We do not allow any mid day or after dark activity whatsoever on the property either. I have been on clubs that allow four wheeler riding and I think our deer a far less pressured than clubs I have been a part of in the past.

Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: slippinlipjr] #1030719
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I use to be a fan of the walk in rule but I've since changed my mind. Its not possible for everyone to do but if you hunt with a small group and have the ability.....if everyone will use some type of quiet vehicle, then I think the best way is to drive hunters right to their stand..... drop 'em off then come back and pick 'em up. I have a small suzuki truck called a Carry that work ideal for this. Its near silent for a gas powered engine. I've seen other people use a Samurai and it also works really well.

What this does is it keeps human scent off all the trails. If you walk in and out....in and out...all over every trail system in your property, then you are loudly announcing to the deer that there are humans roaming all over the property. Your scent stays on those trails long after you've gone past and it adds "pressure" to the deer herd that may cause more nocturnal activity to take place.

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Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: slippinlipjr] #1030731
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I use an electric cart and get as close to my hunting area as I can, without disturbing the deer

Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: slippinlipjr] #1030732
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If you hunt where they are used to seeing trucks, tractors, 4 wheelers and such I don't think it's a big deal. But if you are hunting way back in timber like some of our areas in Northeast Bama , they are used to quiet and then all of a sudden here comes the camo warriors starting just before hunting season. I think it matters then. I like to keep it quiet.

IMO, walking scent free as possible, with rubber boots is best in our area. Walkin' ain't crowded either.

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Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: slippinlipjr] #1030734
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I've got a silencer on mine, and with a new(er) truck, my wheeler is gonna get some use. There's no doubt it bothers them some, but so does anything else like a truck, gravel popping under golf cart tires, etc. When I figure out a way to just disappear at the gate and reappear in my stand I'll let y'all in on it.


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Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: slippinlipjr] #1030797
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We use them very little. Mostly drive trucks. You can not walk to everywhere on our property. I probably used a four wheeler 5 times last year.

Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: slippinlipjr] #1030806
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Hunting pressure spooks deer.
If all the hunting pressure comes from ATV's....then, it will spook them! The same can be said for trucks.....

If you think deer can't hear a truck or golf cart, but can hear an ATV; you are fooling yourself!

I have been on the phone with my wife and her say, "You must be getting close." When I asked why, she said. "Your dogs all just got up and started whining and barking." AND, I will still be 1/4 to 1/2 mi from where I turn off Hwy 43 (WELL TRAVELED) to drive the 1 mile of dirt road to my house!!! And, no...I don't run 'pipes' and such! Amazing really!

Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: slippinlipjr] #1030816
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I have the same experience with my dogs as Hogwild. I have also thought over the years that deer know when you hunt regardless of how you access the woods. At our old place in Hardaway it was amazing how much more road traffic there was on Saturday and Sundays passing by. Hunt a week day and you hardly heard a car but come the weekend it sounded like an interstate full of mud tires. I find it hard to believe that the deer don't catch on to that.

Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: slippinlipjr] #1030818
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If done right, I do not think that there is any difference than driving a vehicle. Before it was stolen, my four wheeler had a silencer on it and it was quieter than most vehicles. This being said, I'm also one that hunts where most people don't care to go. I think that the biggest mistake people make when it comes to ATV/UTV is that they do a lot of joy riding just before the season and during when not hunting.


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Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: slippinlipjr] #1030848
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On my club which is basically a large rectangle in shape we only allow any type of vehicle on the exterior roads system. Walking only on the interior roads unless you are going to pick up a kill. It seems to work for us.


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Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: JB71] #1030887
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Originally Posted By: JB71
I think that the biggest mistake people make when it comes to ATV/UTV is that they do a lot of joy riding just before the season and during when not hunting.


Agree. Our place is a pretty large tract , we have a main road through the middle, we drive it and a couple of side roads a little ways. From the main road we walk, sometimes a very long way, it works.



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Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: slippinlipjr] #1030926
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On the club I've been in for the last 3 years, we've rode fourwheelers all over it during the season and it always was hell to even see a deer after opening weekend. Now that the lease has switched hands, we are only going to use em for retrieving deer. I'm confident this will be good for the club and will allow for a better hunting experience.


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Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: Tru-Talker] #1030951
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Originally Posted By: Tru-Talker
To me...it affects them... I have been in stands where a truck can drive down the road and all the deer do is turn their head....never move.... Four wheeler goes by and they are gone before it ever gets within 100-150 yards....



Same with me ... Seen it multiple times.
One place I hunt only allows 4 wheelers for retrieval. The deer arent near as spooky there as the other place which allows them all the time.


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[quote=2Dogs][color:#660000]If you hunt where they are used to seeing trucks, tractors, 4 wheelers and such I don't think it's a big deal. [/color]


this. Our deer are use to trucks all the time. me and my son ride his dunebuggy alot and they just look at us.lol

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Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: Shaneomac1] #1031024
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I let my cuz and a very few friends ride their 4 wheelers on my place during off season. I am only up there a small fraction of the year and prefer the deer to be used to some human presence. I don't believe a little riding bothers them that much.Last fall cuz sent me a phone pic of a decent 6 point he had a stare down with across the creek. He ended driving drove off with it chomping acorns as he drove off.

Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: slippinlipjr] #1031047
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It all about threat level to deer. This usually comes from what time of the year it is.
I have seen nice bucks walk with the horses and cows while haying from the back of the truck. That same truck 2 months earlier during hunting season in the same pasture will cause said bucks high tailing it off the property!!

we allow summer riding of ATVs on all the main roads and anywhere on your area. I have an area that is too narrow to put a stand on that I made a ATV trail ride of sorts. It is far away from any of my hunting stands and next to the camp area so nobody is disturbed by it.


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Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: slippinlipjr] #1031102
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Ride ours during the Summer and when we plant. Other than getting a deer out of a bad spot, my Jeep is quiet and has a heater.


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Re: Four wheeler riding on a club [Re: slippinlipjr] #1031227
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4 Wheelers do not bother anything as long as they are covered in human urine.They will actually attract deer and should be parked as close to your stand as possible.


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