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Who doesn't want to close/secure the border? #1029037
07/30/14 09:41 AM
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Has anyone talked to another person that doesn't want the borders secure?


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Re: Who doesn't want to close/secure the border? [Re: Beer Belly] #1029039
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It baffles me how ANYWHERE else in the world we have to have passports and would be arrested, imprisoned or deported ASAP yet Americans are supposed to bend over and take it without so much as a sniff.


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Re: Who doesn't want to close/secure the border? [Re: Beer Belly] #1029069
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The people making a lot of drug $$ in DC

Re: Who doesn't want to close/secure the border? [Re: Clem] #1029073
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Originally Posted By: Clem
It baffles me how ANYWHERE else in the world we have to have passports and would be arrested, imprisoned or deported ASAP yet Americans are supposed to bend over and take it without so much as a sniff.

Need a dang like/approve button! thumbup


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Re: Who doesn't want to close/secure the border? [Re: Beer Belly] #1029078
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The Democratic party ... .its bringing them a whole new voter base.


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Originally Posted By: Rmart30
The Democratic party ... .its bringing them a whole new voter base.


Yep and just in time for the November elections. They may be illegals but a little voter fraud here and little there and BAM they can cast a vote and the Dems can stay in power, heck they may even take the House


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Re: Who doesn't want to close/secure the border? [Re: Beer Belly] #1029148
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not from around my neck of the woods, I know grandaddies ready to arm and defend. They see the us as going down the tubes and feel like they have nothing to lose...

it is funny we give our enemies this kind of cover... it is the most cruel of lies and most efficient of strategies. Just think, you cant go to a store or a dry cleaner without having an RFID tracking device attached to your clothes/cleaning. They do not come off either. Your cell phone is a souped up RFID telling the world where you are...

We know exactly where 90% of citizens are 100% of the time, but we dont have a clue where 100% of the bad guys are at any given moment..

typical special olympics of law enforcement.. SSDD

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Re: Who doesn't want to close/secure the border? [Re: Beer Belly] #1029174
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I do not blame the immigrants for wanting to come here. Either work in Latin America and live in a cardboard wrapped shack or come here and make a decent living.

I am not in favor of an uncontrolled border.

There should be an easier legal way for immigrants to come here than the current pile of red tape that exists now.

If they come here legally I have no problem with immigrants. I'm not in favor of a basically wide open border, and mass illegals like we have now.


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Originally Posted By: FurFlyin
I do not blame the immigrants for wanting to come here. Either work in Latin America and live in a cardboard wrapped shack or come here and make a decent living.

I am not in favor of an uncontrolled border.

There should be an easier legal way for immigrants to come here than the current pile of red tape that exists now.

If they come here legally I have no problem with immigrants. I'm not in favor of a basically wide open border, and mass illegals like we have now.


I agree.


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Re: Who doesn't want to close/secure the border? [Re: Beer Belly] #1029191
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I don't want it easy to come here. We should help improve Mexico. I would MUCH rather us help Mexico than the middle east.


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Originally Posted By: FurFlyin

There should be an easier legal way for immigrants to come here than the current pile of red tape that exists now.

If they come here legally I have no problem with immigrants. I'm not in favor of a basically wide open border, and mass illegals like we have now.


Repeating what was quoted on the news that we Legally take in almost a million immigrants annually...... That's more than every other country in the world combined takes in in that same amount of time. I think we let in way more than we should and if it was much easier after a few generations of it we would be swamped and ourselves turn into a over populated jobless poverty stricken third world country.


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Originally Posted By: Rmart30

Originally Posted By: FurFlyin

There should be an easier legal way for immigrants to come here than the current pile of red tape that exists now.

If they come here legally I have no problem with immigrants. I'm not in favor of a basically wide open border, and mass illegals like we have now.


Repeating what was quoted on the news that we Legally take in almost a million immigrants annually...... That's more than every other country in the world combined takes in in that same amount of time. I think we let in way more than we should and if it was much easier after a few generations of it we would be swamped and ourselves turn into a over populated jobless poverty stricken third world country.


Yet I live in the area of the state with one of the highest legal and illegal populations of brown people and today I talked found out about yet another local business who is having a hard time filling open positions. If sorry lazy Americans would get off their can and start working there would be no jobs for the illegal immigrants.

This latest job I found out about would be tough I guess. Driving around in an air conditioned truck, delivering paint to body shops. Whew, it's hard to be qualified to do that.....

The problem really lies with the gubmint as most of the problems in our country do. Lazy, sorry Americans can make more sitting at home than they can working.

Unskilled labor is just that. It means you don't have to have any particular skill set to perform the job. No skills means low pay. If you want higher pay, get more skilled. Yet somehow the entitlement mentality that permeates our country now includes most people who make less than $35,000 per year. People now deem themselves too good to do certain jobs.

I deem myself too good to be on welfare.


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2 things: 1. It is a misconception that Mexicans are all hardworking. Give them EBT then watch what happens.

2. More immigrants=more debt= quicker downfall of the union.
We spend $2 for every $1 we bring in.
The difference in the Irish/Chinese etc is that we didn't give away $500 food cards a month back in 1900. Close the border- then we talk.

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mexicans have never been hardworking.. that is a perception created by liberals along with the support view that americans just wont do these jobs anymore... none of that is true. they also say blacks are too stupid to provide labor for these jobs so we must have mexicans/mayans.

If I have a circle and can effectuate the behavior within the circle by disparate actors, I am clearly able to reward winners and punish losers and safety net the brain damaged, but well meaning participants who become disabled through no fault of their own but trying to help.

All well meaning participants get some credit.

Ok people, how would you regulate my sphere? reward production, punish production for firing brain dead, reward losers... we have absorbed those results since the NLRB creation in the 40s.

The government expansion of the regulatory sphere of employment has created such internal force on a finite sized balloon such that the govt had to create safety valve down near the knot.

Knot holds the pressure in the balloon. The knot is where the government shakes down rich capitalists and rich capitalists lie about how much they should be shook down for.

Everything else is a lie or a bastard number but yet must still pay taxes. It is a pareto equilibrium for corruption analysis and you and I must pay for those decisions in the name of good government even though we were not present, nor contemplated at the time of contracting around the knot.

Well, that shucks got subsidized and tax deferred and otherwise not enforced for 50 years as we got wiser, so the govt decided to force new air into the balloon by quietly deflating the balloon while protecting its co-owner of the balloon corporate america, even though govt's partner corporate america had been lying for years and govt didnt mind... now can you begin to see a hazy picture from way back on the horizon?

That forced deflation, and rapid voluntary deflation (marxist stimulus)of the big lie balloon created by an abortion agreement that lived thus creating a nation of losers. The big banks sucked value out of USA and sold it globally. Not their fault we cant compete...

we need losers in the nation of losers...its merely a numbers game now.even true american winners are classified losers because crony marxist capitalism must be fed.

we have been lying so long that real numbers lost real meaning probably around repeal of Glass Stegall and Scrushy's first verdict. Scrushy was the first target of the bastard machine and he won but the machine must be fed.

the only meaning the new numbers have in addition to continual justification of a 30 year old big lie? Clinton started using these fucks as voters and barry perfected the art... and as Paul Harvey said...


Now you know the rest of the story....

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Seems like both political parties benefit from an open border. Of all the problems our nation faces, this is the one that could be solved fairly easily. But, GOP backers want cheap labor and pay heavily into campaigns for it, and Dems want Democratic voters.

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