So I've been debating some of the guys on the Christianity Unity thread.
Now I grew up in a very very....very strict Christian houshold. My pa is Chickasaw and my mother's parents are from Italy, where the Christianity comes from. Now during my growing up, I have more of that to do, I was always made to read the scripture, actually memorize it and learn it or not eat. Either way, I believe in something but my Pa's teaching of the Native Americans has always made more sense to me. He beileved in a higher power and the main belief was in the sun and the rain. So I've learned about the sun and rain. Both can cause terrible damage and both can create prosperity! Sun can scortch and burn the earth, with a little rain it can grow enough vegetation for all of us and our game animals to live off of. Rain can flood and Devastate areas, but it also gives us water and the ability to water our plants. I honestly believe that Beautiful Mother Nature is my god and I will live and die by its terms. There is nothing more powerful in my opinion. So does a god from a book dictate how you live or does Mother Nature? Please discuss.

What do you believe happens when you die, and how do you believe mother earth was put here?

So does a god from a book dictate how you live or does Mother Nature? Please discuss.

You just haven't met Jesus yet. you may have grown up being made to read scripture but that's a completely different thing than knowing a personal Savior.

I know God, he talks to me and I talk to him, he shows me things to bless my life and things to make me grow spiritually, so that I can understand even more and benefit more.

I may have learned some things about Jesus from a book but he lives in me now and will always be there book or not. I've seen God's work in me and in others.

I will worship the creator rather than the creation.

I wish I could have typed that. I live it but I don't think I could have put it in those words.

I believe when I die, I die. As far as the universe, I don't believe anyone farted it out.

My God (Jehovah) made what you are calling a god (sun, rain, mother nature). The Bible (book as you refer to it) tells me that there was nothing here before Gos spoke it into existance. I have no doubt that that's how it happened too.

One of the hardest things for a non-believer to do is to have faith in something they can't touch/see/hold/etc. Take the wind for example. You can't see it, hold it, touch it, etc. but there's no doubt it's there. Same with God. I have felt His presence in my life and have no doubt He's real. I also know, based on His word in the Bible, that I'll spend eternity with Him after I pass on from this life here on Earth - thanks to Jesus Christ dieing for me on the cross.

One thing I lack is mercy, and I'm working on that. If you decide to stay with "mother earth" as your god then that's your business and it won't affect me in the least. But for your sake I do hope you come to know Jesus as Lord and Savior before it's too late.

So you have actually talked to god? And he spoke back? What did he sound like? Is there a particular time in your life where he did not speak back?. Sorry for all the questions.

That must suck. And if no one farted it out how did it get here in your opinon?

But what other than a very old and VERY hand selected ( by the Diciples) book can make you believe that? You'll say faith I know, but what gives you such confidence that an old and many times changed book will give you eternal life? Do you want to live forever?

How so? I'm all ears. Do you really believe that you will live eternal? What if you have regrets, will you want to live with them forever?

What's your take on the origins of the universe and evolution as it relates to the 2nd law of thermodynamics?

Other than my other posts, you say you worship the creator rather than the creation, if this is human kinds purpose why is there creation at all?

I've got to ask...where did you come up with the idea that the disciples selected the books of the Bible? Also, what changes are you referring to?

Great book, I'm not arguing just seeking an answer.

Just kinda makes your existence seem meaningless.
Yes i do.
The bible talks about that.
And if you dont know say you dont.

Are you serious? Lol, research anything about the bible, there are several books removed from the bible from Diciples, they didn't see the writing fit, and the Romans after Christianity became popular. Man there are books that have been "forgotten" about Jesus's lady friend. The scrolls are still there they just hand picked them for the bible. Not to mention the whole new testament was written 100-300 Years after Christ's death. That's like a guy talking about FDR's death in the year 2245.

I'm not talking about a book by that title. I'm asking how you think the earth was made since you apparently don't believe it was created and also, since you are a scientist by schooling, as am I, what makes you think that matter will trend towards order instead of towards chaos as the 2nd law of Thermodynamics states.

Having a desire to seek a higher power was a start. Knowing I was lost was another. Praying and truly seeking the supreme being who created it all seemed like the way to go, and boy am I glad I sought Him out. The Bible is divinely inspired - I have no doubt about that.

Basic
Instructions
Before
Leaving
Earth

I saw the above acronym somewhere before and liked it.

Do I want to live forever? Heck yea! And what better place than in Heaven with God? I can't think of a better place. And if Earth is like this (cold morning deer hunting! ), then I can only imagine how much better Heaven will be.

Sure. Here's what I believe:

My God is not a God "from" a book. There is a book that is about my God and it is His word to me and to others. The book is also His revelation of himself to me and to others. God chose men to write down what he revealed to them. It was His words, not theirs.

I believe by faith that my God is the author of this book, the Holy Bible, and I also believe that He has always been here. He was here before the beginning of creation. He was here during the process of creation as He was the one doing the creating of the universe, the heaven, the sun, the stars, the earth and all that are in it.

I believe in and worship the one who created it all which is Almighty God. Never would I give a thought toward worshipping something that He created such as the sun, moon, stars or even the earth, as beautiful as it is.

God gives me guidelines and direction from His book on how I should live my life. He also gives me a choice in serving Him, living for Him and obeying Him. He does not "dictate" me to do anything, much less how to live. He gives me the choice.

His book did not save me or give me a home in heaven. I'm saved because I have believed in the atoning work done on the cross by His son, Jesus, by faith. The book didn't save me. What Christ did for me on the cross saved me. God's book just told me how to become saved.

I choose to love Him, obey Him and live for Him all because of what He has done for me. First & foremost He loves me.

I have a real relationship with my God. I fellowship through the spirit with my God. He speaks to me through His word, through His spirit, through circumstances and events in my life and even through other people.

How can one develop a relationship with the sun, the moon, the stars or even nature?

My sincere & honest prayer is that some day my God will draw you to Him by His spirit and that your eyes may be opened to Him.

I am so glad that I know Him.

Very serious. You're just spouting stuff with nothing to support it. I've heard the argument that the Roman Catholic Church chose the books of the Bible, which isn't true either by the way, but not that the disciples chose the books. As far as books about "Jesus' lady friend" those come from gnostic writings that show up a couple of centuries after Christ. Have you done any research? If so, you'll find that the New Testament is the most verifiable ancient document around. If you dispute the validity of the New Testament then you must dispute the validity of anything written more than a couple of hundred years ago. Here's a link that goes into it a little deeper...just so I'm not guilty of spouting things without any support

http://www.str.org/articles/is-the-new-testament-text-reliable#.U9HE4PldW_g