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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #1355042
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Looking at a tract off the river. All old growth bottomland.
It will flood when the river gets out its banks.

Kicking an idea around.. Sounds almost criminal to me to even contemplate.. But..

Assuming its dry enough to get in there, would clearcutting a property like that allow one to potentially break even on a $2000/ac purchase price (or real close)?

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #1355045
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Depends on the timber and how wet it gets. By the time your place drys out, the hardwood demand will probably be down.


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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #1355069
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Hardwood prices are dependent on timber quality and market demand. Many less desirable species get lumped into the hardwood label. Old growth hardwood is often hollow. Impossible to give a price without putting feet on the ground.

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #1355080
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Hardwood logs still have a good price, like they say, it depends. Access, logging conditions, how many acres, available markets as well as the hardwood log quality and type make a lot of difference. It is possible that there is that there is $2,000 per acre in timber, but it would have to be good timber. Get a contract and get a good timber cruise.

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #1368533
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What is the best year round forage crops and native vegetation well suited for acidic soils ?

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #1368631
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Best all around plant is honeysuckle to me.


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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #1844640
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Buying land with timber !

Starting the process of searching for land with a good amount of older aged plantations that are ready for first thinning or close to it. I have a few questions

Is it better to buy the tract from a company that have certified forester's on staff or is it in your best interest to interview CF to help you set the timber sale in motion?

What's an industry standard for fees or % of sale for the Foresters ?


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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: Flat Iron] #1847544
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A famous PA Turkey Call Maker once said " When the Dogwood is White the time is right "
Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #1847552
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Fees are negotiable. We think our guy gets 8%. He's in charge of the whole process now. Everything from getting bids to which section needs to be cut, where new food plots should go....

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: jlbuc10] #1847562
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Originally Posted By: jlbuc10
Fees are negotiable. We think our guy gets 8%. He's in charge of the whole process now. Everything from getting bids to which section needs to be cut, where new food plots should go....


8% is a huge number. There's no way I'd pay that under any circumstance. That's more than a real estate agent, a lot more actually.

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #1848370
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On just a regular clear cut I'll take a 3% all day long and be happy.

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #1854066
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I guess I won't be working for Remington anytime soon laugh 8% aint any huge number for a good forester depending on the sale. We charge 10% on handling first thins and go down from there depending on the value of the sale. As cruiser said, I would and have done clearcuts for 3% and been happy, but with log prices as sorry as they are now, I doubt I would do it in this timber market.


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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #1854965
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I have a pine log sale I tried to get a lump sum price on about a month ago and nobody would give a price because of the log market.

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: timbercruiser] #1855911
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
I have a pine log sale I tried to get a lump sum price on about a month ago and nobody would give a price because of the log market.


We had 3 no sales this summer because of no interest, no prices worth selling, or no loggers available. Never seen it this bad! You would starve to death on 8% across the board regardless of how many sales you had. Get too many going and you can't monitor them correctly. I'll take 4-6% on land sales all day because it takes MUCH less work! Even with split commissions. Like comparing apples to tomatoes. They both are round and red/green.

Plus anyone who wants to do the online course can get a real estate license. You need a 4 year college degree at a reputable Forestry school, several years in field experience, and an intensive test in front of a Certification board to show your knowledge to become a Registered Forester. Not very comparable.

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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: Flat Iron] #1855915
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Originally Posted By: Flat Iron
Buying land with timber !

Starting the process of searching for land with a good amount of older aged plantations that are ready for first thinning or close to it. I have a few questions

Is it better to buy the tract from a company that have certified forester's on staff or is it in your best interest to interview CF to help you set the timber sale in motion?

What's an industry standard for fees or % of sale for the Foresters ?


Regarding this question, It is best to buy the best tract of land for the money where you want to buy it. Most property owners don't have Foresters working for them, or at least many. I would suggest you develop a relationship with a Forester you trust to evaluate the timber on any tract you are considering. Very few realtors know anything about timber, timber management or timber value unless they are a Forester. I would say virtually none know anything about wildlife habitat evaluation, creation or management. Unfortunately, this applies to many Foresters as well


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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #1955034
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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #2728186
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When would be the best time to do a burn on a 5 year old clear cut? Favorable weather conditions?


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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #2732678
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Probably been asked a hundred times, but what would be a ballpark rate/hour for forest mulching? And is there anybody who does it around Marengo County?

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: MCW] #2749330
02/27/19 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by MCW
Probably been asked a hundred times, but what would be a ballpark rate/hour for forest mulching? And is there anybody who does it around Marengo County?

100 to 150 per hour. Maybe some drive time to. Google is your friend. These machines can be rented but are high and you have to use your insurance


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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #2749541
02/27/19 12:06 PM
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One more thing, make sure the machine has high flow hydraulics. More HP the better, personally I like the results with a big skid steer with a forestry grade bushhog head on it.

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